I took a cycle where i did 500mg test for ten weeks. Fina for 8 at 75mg ED and anavar at 8 weeks 50mg a day. I defidently noticed gains but let me tell you it wasnt much. I made the fina myself at home like most. All i ever heard about was everyone hype it up and say how great it was, well it didnt do dick for me. Anyone else dilike fina as much as i do?