In a pickle

**BenTren** · 05-01-2018, 05:40 PM

so i'm only able to run my Test-E for 5 weeks. Bummer. I've almost ran out of Test (estimated 2 pins left) and i've no money left to buy another vial; i know newb mistake. My source chargers £90 a vial for Test 300 and i'm unable to buy from an online source as of yet due to complications.

I've only started to 'feel' the test kick in.. Short tempered, bigger by the day(!!) and lifts are going crazy high (struggled with 80kg 2 weeks ago smashed 115kg today) and crazy pumps too. so it's a massive shame to only run it for this long.

Could i potentially keep the gains after this short cycle ? What PCT would you recommend to run, dosage wise etc?

If i were able to get another vial say 1-2 weeks after last pin could i keep the cycle going? or would it basically be like starting again (taking another 3/4 weeks to feel it) due to the long ester?

**geezuschrist** · 05-01-2018, 06:12 PM

With all respect.. you are an idiot. You just wasted shutting down you hpta for 5 weeks to basically gain nothing. Now you get to go through your hormones adjusting in pct and you didn't really gain anything. You gotta have everything from the start test, hcg , pct.

**BenTren** · 05-01-2018, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by geezuschrist

With all respect.. you are an idiot. You just wasted shutting down you hpta for 5 weeks to basically gain nothing. Now you get to go through your hormones adjusting in pct and you didn't really gain anything. You gotta have everything from the start test, hcg, pct.

I know, believe me i know. If i did come off the test would i be able to get a hard-on during PCT? And could I carry on my cycle say 1-2 weeks after last pin if i manage to get enough money before then? I was in a job but then i lost it which has left me with no money, which i was planning on buying more test. Will i keep the gains (some of it) i've made if i ate correctly and trained?

**guitarzan** · 05-01-2018, 06:30 PM

You will be fine, stop pinning and start pct. Dont start another cycle till you got all the gear

**BenTren** · 05-01-2018, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

You will be fine, stop pinning and start pct. Dont start another cycle till you got all the gear

Ok cheers. Ill see if my source can sort something out for me if not PCT it is. Such a d*ck i know i now realise the importance of preparation. Guess it's a learning curve!

I should still wait 2 weeks before PCT yes? and also what kind of dosages would you recommend for PCT as it's only 5 weeks?

**guitarzan** · 05-01-2018, 06:59 PM

Don't sweat it bro, if anyone on this site can say they never ran out of gear, they probably ain't been doing long! I'll let someone else answer your pct questions, been awhile since I've done it

**MACKATTACK** · 05-01-2018, 07:14 PM

If you can't afford Test E from a UGL, you need to rethink your life choices......Steroids should be at the bottom of the list. This is coming from a Certified Financial Planner (CFP).

**guitarzan** · 05-01-2018, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK1

If you can't afford Test E from a UGL, you need to rethink your life choices......Steroids should be at the bottom of the list. This is coming from a Certified Financial Planner (CFP).

You would have a field day with my bad financial decisions!

**MACKATTACK** · 05-01-2018, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

You would have a field day with my bad financial decisions!

I cringe at some of the posts on this forum about affording stuff. This is THE last sh!t you should be spending your money on lmao.

**guitarzan** · 05-01-2018, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK1

I cringe at some of the posts on this forum about affording stuff. This is THE last sh!t you should be spending your money on lmao.

Oh I blow way more than that! I just spent $9k on a motor for my old jeep. Just bought a camper. Just spent around $5k on telescope accessories. I stopped paying into my retirement last year because I bought a lake house (I knew that one would get you!) I probably spend 10k or so a year on my fireworks building hobby. I can go on and on...lol

**MACKATTACK** · 05-01-2018, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Oh I blow way more than that! I just spent $9k on a motor for my old jeep. Just bought a camper. Just spent around $5k on telescope accessories. I stopped paying into my retirement last year because I bought a lake house (I knew that one would get you!) I probably spend 10k or so a year on my fireworks building hobby. I can go on and on...lol

You should still live your life an enjoy it, not supplementing your retirement for a year or two to buy an asset like a house, isn't necessarily a bad idea if the area it is in can grow in value. Its a give and take and living a balanced life with money and health. Goes hand and hand.

**diesel101** · 05-01-2018, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Oh I blow way more than that! I just spent $9k on a motor for my old jeep. Just bought a camper. Just spent around $5k on telescope accessories. I stopped paying into my retirement last year because I bought a lake house (I knew that one would get you!) I probably spend 10k or so a year on my fireworks building hobby. I can go on and on...lol

And where are the bad financial decisions you made?

**Obs** · 05-01-2018, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by diesel101

And where are the bad financial decisions you made?

You are becoming a little more like kel every day with the one liners. Must be old age.

**Couchlockd** · 05-01-2018, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by BenTren

I know, believe me i know. If i did come off the test would i be able to get a hard-on during PCT? And could I carry on my cycle say 1-2 weeks after last pin if i manage to get enough money before then? I was in a job but then i lost it which has left me with no money, which i was planning on buying more test. Will i keep the gains (some of it) i've made if i ate correctly and trained?

JESUS CHRIST! that was rough...

**Couchlockd** · 05-01-2018, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by BenTren

so i'm only able to run my Test-E for 5 weeks. Bummer. I've almost ran out of Test (estimated 2 pins left) and i've no money left to buy another vial; i know newb mistake. My source chargers £90 a vial for Test 300 and i'm unable to buy from an online source as of yet due to complications.

I've only started to 'feel' the test kick in.. Short tempered, bigger by the day(!!) and lifts are going crazy high (struggled with 80kg 2 weeks ago smashed 115kg today) and crazy pumps too. so it's a massive shame to only run it for this long.

Could i potentially keep the gains after this short cycle ? What PCT would you recommend to run, dosage wise etc?

If i were able to get another vial say 1-2 weeks after last pin could i keep the cycle going? or would it basically be like starting again (taking another 3/4 weeks to feel it) due to the long ester?

90 for a vial of test?

so you have about 2 ml of test left?

turn it into 4 shots and start hustling asap.I mean you know what I mean.unload some dabs or something, fund that bottle of test.

**Couchlockd** · 05-01-2018, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by BenTren

Ok cheers. Ill see if my source can sort something out for me if not PCT it is. Such a d*ck i know i now realise the importance of preparation. Guess it's a learning curve!

I should still wait 2 weeks before PCT yes? and also what kind of dosages would you recommend for PCT as it's only 5 weeks?

this is a better way. you tell us what you have on hand for PCT, and amounts of each drug, then we can structure the most effective protocol based on what you have

**Back In Black** · 05-02-2018, 12:50 AM

If you can’t afford a bottle of test you can’t afford the food you need.

Your source is a con man having you pay double the going rate. Absolutely don’t understand why anybody in the world can’t order gear online unless they are banged up.

**Eduke93** · 05-02-2018, 03:31 AM

This sucks man.

But everyone is right, you should never start a cycle until you have all the gear/ancillaries on deck ready to go. Like BIB said, if you cant afford a vial of test how can you afford to eat?

Also, £90.. that's horrific. I can get locally brewed test for £25 or UGL branded for £30... Your dealer is making more than 140% profit from you.

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK1

I cringe at some of the posts on this forum about affording stuff. This is THE last sh!t you should be spending your money on lmao.

I know I was in a job but lost it (only had one bottle of test until next pay day but guess it's not coming around)

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle

90 for a vial of test?

so you have about 2 ml of test left?

turn it into 4 shots and start hustling asap.I mean you know what I mean.unload some dabs or something, fund that bottle of test.

would this work? if i only did 300mg a week if i manage to get another bottle could i just front load it then? like say 6-800mg a week after that?

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Eduke93

This sucks man.

But everyone is right, you should never start a cycle until you have all the gear/ancillaries on deck ready to go. Like BIB said, if you cant afford a vial of test how can you afford to eat?

Also, £90.. that's horrific. I can get locally brewed test for £25 or UGL branded for £30... Your dealer is making more than 140% profit from you.

and I know, he's making a lot of profit off me which is why i can't afford it right now, I can't buy online because i can't send gear to my house because my parents don't know i'm on the gear haha

**Eduke93** · 05-02-2018, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by BenTren

and I know, he's making a lot of profit off me which is why i can't afford it right now, I can't buy online because i can't send gear to my house because my parents don't know i'm on the gear haha

This is why i moved out at 18 years old. Need to sort your shit bro.

**hollowedzeus** · 05-02-2018, 06:04 AM

I mean im not one to talk as im 19 anf still with my parents but you know the postman doesnt chap the door and be like 'steroids sir?'

90 pound for a bottle of test is absolutely ridiculous. 30 pounds is closer to the mark.

Part of the reason people say young guys shouldnt cycle is because they arent sensible enough or mature enough to do so.

Im not saying thats you but trying to stretch one vial of test over 12 weeks is ridiculous.

Just so you know. Steroids come in the post in a jiffy bag or an envelope. Youre an adult. If your mum and dad make you open the post in front of them there is an issue.

Guess im lucky, showed my dad the stuff i bought to make him jealous

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Eduke93

This is why i moved out at 18 years old. Need to sort your shit bro.

I know man hard at the moment. Doing sneaky jabs up in my room is a pain haha.

**Mooseman33** · 05-02-2018, 06:59 AM

what are you eating daily if there is no money?

Serious, what is your diet right now?

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

I mean im not one to talk as im 19 anf still with my parents but you know the postman doesnt chap the door and be like 'steroids sir?'

90 pound for a bottle of test is absolutely ridiculous. 30 pounds is closer to the mark.

Part of the reason people say young guys shouldnt cycle is because they arent sensible enough or mature enough to do so.

Im not saying thats you but trying to stretch one vial of test over 12 weeks is ridiculous.

Just so you know. Steroids come in the post in a jiffy bag or an envelope. Youre an adult. If your mum and dad make you open the post in front of them there is an issue.

Guess im lucky, showed my dad the stuff i bought to make him jealous

I know i was going to buy another one but shit has hit the fan at the moment. I asked for 2 bottles of test actually but he gave me deca instead and one bottle of test. and i can't order it to my house they'll open it lol. Parents are dickeds.

**hollowedzeus** · 05-02-2018, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by BenTren

I know man hard at the moment. Doing sneaky jabs up in my room is a pain haha.

Please buy a sharps bin if you dont have one already. I hope your not flushing your pins or any other dangerous way of disposing them

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

what are you eating daily if there is no money?

Serious, what is your diet right now?

I get food bought for me.

I eat about 2-3 tuna and rice a day

Porridge and peanut butter for morning

chicken breasts and rice with mixed vega

2 protein shakes

Fat free yogurt with grenola and sh*t

normally kcal are anywhere between 2,700-3,300

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

Please buy a sharps bin if you dont have one already. I hope your not flushing your pins or any other dangerous way of disposing them

my needle packs come with this little black tube where you put it in and it locks so it stays in there. you can't take it out it's locked in. I normally chuck it in the council bin afterwards haha

**Eduke93** · 05-02-2018, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by BenTren

I know man hard at the moment. Doing sneaky jabs up in my room is a pain haha.

Well i didn't move out when i was 18 because of steroids , I moved out for independence. But obviously the freedom was nice... Not that my parents would ever open up my parcels/letter though... that's crossing the line when your over 18...

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Eduke93

Well i didn't move out when i was 18 because of steroids, I moved out for independence. But obviously the freedom was nice... Not that my parents would ever open up my parcels/letter though... that's crossing the line when your over 18...

lol please tell them that for me. I'd love to move out but saving for a mortgage takes a long time. Plus i'm terrible at saving money.

**Eduke93** · 05-02-2018, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by BenTren

lol please tell them that for me. I'd love to move out but saving for a mortgage takes a long time. Plus i'm terrible at saving money.

No excuses man.

I worked from the age of 15, started with a national company at 17, moved out at 18 (rented my own flat), worked my way up the ladder career wise and bought my own house at 23. Grinded all the way, and still am at 25... Do what you gotta do man, just make it happen.

And don't get me wrong, there was times of struggle but always made ends meet.

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle

this is a better way. you tell us what you have on hand for PCT, and amounts of each drug, then we can structure the most effective protocol based on what you have

I have 40 20mg tabs of Nolva

24tabs of 50mg Clomid

**BenTren** · 05-02-2018, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Eduke93

No excuses man.

I worked from the age of 15, started with a national company at 17, moved out at 18 (rented my own flat), worked my way up the ladder career wise and bought my own house at 23. Grinded all the way, and still am at 25... Do what you gotta do man, just make it happen.

And don't get me wrong, there was times of struggle but always made ends meet.

I hear you. Just need to find that career path now. Just a bummer about the test tho. I may as well run 300mg of test a week now? just so i can get an extra week or two out of it? and then run a PCT. What PCT would you recommend? normal?

**Eduke93** · 05-02-2018, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by BenTren

I hear you. Just need to find that career path now. Just a bummer about the test tho. I may as well run 300mg of test a week now? just so i can get an extra week or two out of it? and then run a PCT. What PCT would you recommend? normal?

Your call mate.

Nolvadex 40/40/40/40
Clomid 75/75/75/75