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Thread: First time with NPP please advise

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    First time with NPP please advise

    40 yr old male
    5'9
    194lbs
    4 years solid in gym but off and on 20+ years
    I stay on test year round at around 250 a week
    several cycles under my belt. ex= test,tren ,hcg -- test,deca --test only
    currently finished a 4 week cycle of test 500mg week and meant 25mg ed orally

    I'm wanting a lean bulk and here's my plan. Ive read a lot about how lowering test dose and using another like mast, or winny at higher dose give better results. Suggestions and advice are welcome. (please)

    100mg test probably prop
    350mg NPP
    400mg Masteron
    250iu X 2 HCG

    Question 1: I know NPP should be injected EOD so I could use prop and add it in with it but how would I dose the masteron?

    Question 2: Do the dosages look good? What would you change?

    Question 3: Recommendations on something completely different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvannjr View Post
    40 yr old male
    5'9
    194lbs
    4 years solid in gym but off and on 20+ years
    I stay on test year round at around 250 a week
    several cycles under my belt. ex= test,tren ,hcg -- test,deca --test only
    currently finished a 4 week cycle of test 500mg week and meant 25mg ed orally

    I'm wanting a lean bulk and here's my plan. Ive read a lot about how lowering test dose and using another like mast, or winny at higher dose give better results. Suggestions and advice are welcome. (please)

    100mg test probably prop
    350mg NPP
    400mg Masteron
    250iu X 2 HCG

    Question 1: I know NPP should be injected EOD so I could use prop and add it in with it but how would I dose the masteron?

    Question 2: Do the dosages look good? What would you change?

    Question 3: Recommendations on something completely different?
    This is just me....
    I would up the test. 100/wk won’t do anything. Maybe 300 and I would up the NPP a little 400-500. I would save the mast.
    You do not need to, but maybe add Tbol??
    If you are a deca guy like me, you will love NPP and it’s fast acting properties.

    If you literally just finished a cycle, give your body time to recuperate. Also, it sounds like you self prescribed TRT. You may want to bring that down also to 150-200.


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    What ester is the mast? That will tell how ofte you need to inject it. I love npp. Really powerful stuff. I just ran it at 525 test pp and 525npp. Pinned m/w/f. Didnt feel a ton of water weight from it either. Its so good im actually debating trying to cut with it for my next cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvannjr View Post
    40 yr old male
    5'9
    194lbs
    4 years solid in gym but off and on 20+ years
    I stay on test year round at around 250 a week
    several cycles under my belt. ex= test,tren ,hcg -- test,deca --test only
    currently finished a 4 week cycle of test 500mg week and meant 25mg ed orally

    I'm wanting a lean bulk and here's my plan. Ive read a lot about how lowering test dose and using another like mast, or winny at higher dose give better results. Suggestions and advice are welcome. (please)

    100mg test probably prop Run 300mg/wk of Test
    350mg NPP
    400mg Masteron
    250iu X 2 HCG

    Question 1: I know NPP should be injected EOD so I could use prop and add it in with it but how would I dose the masteron?
    Mix Test/NPP/Mast in the same syringe or vial in inject every other day. 400mg/wk of Mast is a good dose.

    Question 2: Do the dosages look good? What would you change?
    75mg/eod of Test Prop

    Question 3: Recommendations on something completely different?
    This is a good cycle for for lean bulk. With 300mg/wk of Test, you will need to take an AI. Start with .25mg/eod of Adex starting the 2nd week of Test Prop.
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    Npp is probably my favorite compound aside from tren .. I usually run with prop and pin 100 prop and 150 npp eod.. I would drop mast like charger said but again that's just me idk what your looking for but that's what I've had luck with
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    1: inject prop and npp mon wed and fri. If youre running mast enanthate just pin it mon and fri.
    2: i would run the npp at 400, mast 400 and test at 300
    3: this is an excellent cycle with great compounds. Have fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunjohn242002 View Post
    1: inject prop and npp mon wed and fri. If youre running mast enanthate just pin it mon and fri.
    2: i would run the npp at 400, mast 400 and test at 300
    3: this is an excellent cycle with great compounds. Have fun
    Another option is to inject everything daily. Take your weekly dose and divide it by the number of days.
    I do this with everything. It helps keep serum levels consistent. I really notice the difference with tren .
    I use slin pins.


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    Thanks for the info. How long do you think I could run this cycle, I was planning on 10 weeks? Also with NPP does my pct plan need to be anything special or would the nolva/clomid be fine? I stay on test year round.
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    Thank you all very much for the replies and great information. Last two questions:
    1- I'm thinking a 10-12 week cycle?
    2- With NPP will my pct plan need to something different than nolva/clom (I saty on test year round trt)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvannjr View Post
    Thank you all very much for the replies and great information. Last two questions: 1- I'm thinking a 10-12 week cycle?
    2- With NPP will my pct plan need to something different than nolva/clom
    10-12 weeks is fine. When I am able to bulk that long, I prefer deca .
    I use NPP for the shorter bulks.
    Just a personal preference
    2 nolva/clomid is the correct PCT


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    Ive used deca and it makes me full and "round"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvannjr View Post
    Ive used deca and it makes me full and "round"
    Your diet dictates that. Deca will retain more water, but water weight is easy to get rid of. I do not get excessive water retention although everyone is different .


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    Quote Originally Posted by rvannjr View Post
    Thank you all very much for the replies and great information. Last two questions:
    1- I'm thinking a 10-12 week cycle?
    2- With NPP will my pct plan need to something different than nolva/clom (I saty on test year round trt)
    If you are on trt you dont need to do pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    If you are on trt you dont need to do pct
    Thank you Octane. I missed the TRT part.


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