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    winstrol with clen

    Hello guys.I just got some clen and winstrol ,my goal is to shred some body fat and retain most of my muscles.I am new to this kind of stuff so i have done a lot of research,i would not use any test only clen and winstrol cycle.I heard that winstrol needs a pct in some cases but is not a must..the thing is that i don't have any pct.So is it better to run clen only
    or i could stack them together and what dosages should i use for winstrol?I want some advise from guys who done this cycle before.

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    You need test with any cycle. Whats your age hieght and weight? You could do a test cycle and stay very dry with the right diet and retain muscle mass. Probably even gain muscle mass if youve never cycled before. Read the my first cycle sticky. The “cycle” you have described is a huge waste of time

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    My guess is you are most likely trying to avoid pinning. As everyone will tell you...you usually need a base to start with ( test )

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    Hi dude,thanks for the answer,i am 26 years old with 1.85cm height and 95 kg.Why do you think that this cycle is so much of a waste?The reason i don't do test rn is that i don't want to mess with needles.

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    lol you are in my mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy123 View Post
    Hi dude,thanks for the answer,i am 26 years old with 1.85cm height and 95 kg.Why do you think that this cycle is so much of a waste?The reason i don't do test rn is that i don't want to mess with needles.
    If you don't want to pin Test then drop the winstrol . You can run Clen only and get good results. You need to control your diet and do some cardio along with the weight training.

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    Thanks for the input but what if i run winstrol for the strenght gains,will it fuck me up or i won't notice anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy123 View Post
    Thanks for the input but what if i run winstrol for the strenght gains,will it fuck me up or i won't notice anything?
    It will crush your natural test levels and leave you worse than you were before once you stop using it. If you are scared of needles than you should not mess with your hormones

    Using winstrol could permanently damage your endocrine system and leave you forced to inject synthetic test for the rest of your life. Of course this is unlikely, but this is the risk we take and most of us on here are not scared to inject forever. Not tryin to scare you man. But winny by itself is just silly. Clen is a decent compound. It wont make you shredded overnight but with a good diet and training routine its just another small part of workinf towards your goal.

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    alright it seems that its a bad idea indeed as i did further research,i don't want to risk it.i will run clen only,iam thankful for the advice guys.

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    btw guys how shouild i use clen for maximum effectiveness,2 weeks on 2 off and gradually increasing the dose from 20 mcg to 120 mcg?Also should i apply more cardio and weight training stays the same?
    Last edited by prodigy123; 05-18-2018 at 02:42 AM.

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    When you're on clen , it'll be hard to do a lot of cardio. My resting heartbeat is over 80bpm and packing the groceries gets me over 100bpm easily. Stay with your regular lifting routing and do the cardio as you can. Don't be a superman and have a heart attack on the treadmill.

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    ok sounds logical.What about the muscle mass,will i maintain it while burning fat?Ofc diet will be in check along with heavy lifting.

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    This is similar to the cycle I want to run. Test/Winny/Clen /Var and PCT. I'm just still trying to figure out how to spread it all out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drogers86 View Post
    This is similar to the cycle I want to run. Test/Winny/Clen/Var and PCT. I'm just still trying to figure out how to spread it all out.
    if you haven’t even tried test yet I’d slow down a bit and start with the test injections to see if you can...do not start stacking compounds thinking more is better...do yourself a favor and read the first cycle sticky to give you an idea of how you should start if you still want to cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    if you havenít even tried test yet Iíd slow down a bit and start with the test injections to see if you can...do not start stacking compounds thinking more is better...do yourself a favor and read the first cycle sticky to give you an idea of how you should start if you still want to cycle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    if you haven’t even tried test yet I’d slow down a bit and start with the test injections to see if you can...do not start stacking compounds thinking more is better...do yourself a favor and read the first cycle sticky to give you an idea of how you should start if you still want to cycle...
    Start with test to see if I can? Is there a chance of a bad reaction to test? I didn't realize test might have any SERIOUS sides. Dang. Welp, I've got 250 mg of that on hand atm, so at least I don't have to shop for it :P

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    pls guys dont spam the thread,i want some opinions on how to use clen from other guys too and if the side effects are worth the results..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    It will crush your natural test levels and leave you worse than you were before once you stop using it. If you are scared of needles than you should not mess with your hormones

    Using winstrol could permanently damage your endocrine system and leave you forced to inject synthetic test for the rest of your life. Of course this is unlikely, but this is the risk we take and most of us on here are not scared to inject forever. Not tryin to scare you man. But winny by itself is just silly. Clen is a decent compound. It wont make you shredded overnight but with a good diet and training routine its just another small part of workinf towards your goal.
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    If you don't want to pin Test then drop the winstrol. You can run Clen only and get good results. You need to control your diet and do some cardio along with the weight training.
    Quote Originally Posted by drogers86 View Post
    Start with test to see if I can? Is there a chance of a bad reaction to test? I didn't realize test might have any SERIOUS sides. Dang. Welp, I've got 250 mg of that on hand atm, so at least I don't have to shop for it :P
    What he’s saying is if you never did a cycle before, you don’t jump in doing several compounds. You have to see how your body responds to test first, which is why anyone that has been doing this for years will tell you to start off doing lots of research before jumping on to test ONLY. If you don’t have your diet and health down... testosterone alone can be a mean son of a bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy123 View Post
    pls guys dont spam the thread,i want some opinions on how to use clen from other guys too and if the side effects are worth the results..
    This site has plenty of info on EVERY major AAS. Do the research and when you are ready, then ask questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy123 View Post
    ok sounds logical.What about the muscle mass,will i maintain it while burning fat?Ofc diet will be in check along with heavy lifting.
    Clen is going to put your body under stress as it burns of calories. The goal is to eat enough protein so you'll burn fat and not muscles. Our body doesn't really like muscles. It prefers hanging onto fat over muscles. You have to make sure that your diet and exercise preserves as much muscle as possible. Preserving muscles is why guys go on Test while cutting.

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