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    Need help adjusting mid-cycle

    Started 2018-05-07 125 T-prop EOD + Dbol 30mg ED
    AI arimidex 0.25 EOD
    Going 8 weeks

    Now, almost a week ago I suddenly got small pain in nipps, no noticable tissue forming.
    Some small pimples and still horny, but with libido stuck at 60-70% - can't seem to get it harder without help from Cialis or viagra.
    No issue finishing...
    Also started to drop weight on same diet and program suddenly (2 kg).
    So I went for Nolva 20 for 3 days with AI at 0.5 ED and the issue with nipps are gone.
    All else the same.

    Increased my caloric intake and the weight is stuck on 90 kg at the moment, strenght and energy is great!
    Pump is mostly in lower back area now, instead of all body as in beg.
    Sleeping much more.

    Can't take bloods before 2 weeks from now because of work.

    I will drop the dbol within a week.
    Questions:
    - From the above, how should I proceed with AI since I'm dropping Dbol?
    - Should I increase Test-P to maybe get more from the last weeks since dropping Dbol?
    - Any recommendations to adjust the tapering that has happened with libido and weight?

    Will post bloods as soon as I get them!
    Thanks BIG time for all help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskevatten View Post
    Started 2018-05-07 125 T-prop EOD + Dbol 30mg ED
    AI arimidex 0.25 EOD
    Going 8 weeks

    Now, almost a week ago I suddenly got small pain in nipps, no noticable tissue forming.
    Some small pimples and still horny, but with libido stuck at 60-70% - can't seem to get it harder without help from Cialis or viagra.
    No issue finishing...
    Also started to drop weight on same diet and program suddenly (2 kg).
    So I went for Nolva 20 for 3 days with AI at 0.5 ED and the issue with nipps are gone.
    All else the same.

    Increased my caloric intake and the weight is stuck on 90 kg at the moment, strenght and energy is great!
    Pump is mostly in lower back area now, instead of all body as in beg.
    Sleeping much more.

    Can't take bloods before 2 weeks from now because of work.

    I will drop the dbol within a week.
    Questions:
    - From the above, how should I proceed with AI since I'm dropping Dbol?
    - Should I increase Test-P to maybe get more from the last weeks since dropping Dbol?
    - Any recommendations to adjust the tapering that has happened with libido and weight?

    Will post bloods as soon as I get them!
    Thanks BIG time for all help!
    With regards to the weight, you need to remember when using steroids it will increase your TDEE so you will need to consume more than your average diet program to make up for this.

    - From the above, how should I proceed with AI since I'm dropping Dbol? Since your dropping the dbol go to .5mg EOD and adjust accordingly, Dbol is extremely estrogenic as you know so once this clears your body will be in a much better position.

    - Should I increase Test-P to maybe get more from the last weeks since dropping Dbol? No, stick with your planned protocol for this cycle, the dbol could be what’s caused the problems don’t add more drugs into your system, if you do you could well be in the same boat which would defeat the object of removing dbol.

    - Any recommendations to adjust the tapering that has happened with libido and weight? As above you need to make up for the added drugs calorie wise, with regards to libido. Reduce the AI as the physical neg sides clear, over a week or so you should start to get your kick back.

    I am currently in a similar situation and have dropped dbol due to puffy nipples, I dropped it after 5 weeks upped my AI to .5 ED after 3 days of being off the Dbol I dropped to .5 EOD and everything is back to normal. Without blood work, you just need to play it by ear and adjust your drugs depending on how you feel.
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    Awesome! Appreciate it a lot man!

    AI tapering from adding/ removing compounds should be in the steroid 101 stickies... or I might have missed that part.
    Will add more calories and follow the recommendations you've given, see how it feels in a week or two.
    I actually feel a little sad about dropping dbol , the feeling the first few weeks was beyond great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskevatten View Post
    Awesome! Appreciate it a lot man!

    AI tapering from adding/ removing compounds should be in the steroid 101 stickies... or I might have missed that part.
    Will add more calories and follow the recommendations you've given, see how it feels in a week or two.
    I actually feel a little sad about dropping dbol, the feeling the first few weeks was beyond great!
    No probs bro. Don't sweat it, its always annoying dropping drugs but its all a part of the experiment we are putting our bodies through! Its how we find our perfect recipe...
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