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    Recovery.

    250 mg test e . On it 3 days now,and i feel like i recover better than usual but i heard it takes like 6 months to feel the results.Am i feeling like this just because it's my first cycle and i'm excited for results or can this actually happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamewastaken View Post
    250 mg test e . On it 3 days now,and i feel like i recover better than usual but i heard it takes like 6 months to feel the results.Am i feeling like this just because it's my first cycle and i'm excited for results or can this actually happen?
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    After 3 days it is all in your head. Also, 250mg test per week is barely any morenthan you are producing naturally at your age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    After 3 days it is all in your head. Also, 250mg test per week is barely any morenthan you are producing naturally at your age.
    Well i'm on cut so idk if it's worth more.And also i was thinking of blasting and crousing since i heard it doesn't fuck me like pct does when on blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamewastaken View Post
    Well i'm on cut so idk if it's worth more.And also i was thinking of blasting and crousing since i heard it doesn't fuck me like pct does when on blast.
    This sounds chaotic. The longer you are on exogenous testosterone , the harder it becomes to recover natural testosterone production. Blast and cruise is pretty much saying good bye to your HPTA and relying on testosterone injections for the rest of your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cousinmuscles View Post
    This sounds chaotic. The longer you are on exogenous testosterone, the harder it becomes to recover naturalism testosterone production. Blast and cruise is pretty much saying good bye to your HPTA and relying on testosterone injections for the rest of your life.
    Yea i don't mind that.I don't know why all of you say it's a big deal,it's literally what u do rn but without stopping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamewastaken View Post
    Yea i don't mind that.I don't know why all of you say it's a big deal,it's literally what u do rn but without stopping.
    If you do it then get a real doctor to prescribe you pharmaceutical grade testosterone . You don't want to rely on bathtub brew oil for the rest of your life. You also want a good doctor to check if your protocol is good, there are many variables here to make sure they're right, there's a TRT section you should make use of... https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...nt-anti-aging/

    At 250mg test per week you won't get much gains but will most likely have issues with estrogen and thickness of your blood later on.

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    So do you think i should up to 500mg.250/250 a week?since i'm only 3 days in my cicle i change that.Also i think im gonna do my first cicle and see how i respond during pct if not too bad ill stick to cycles but it its really bad ill find a doctor and go on trt.One more question,i'm living in europe so idk if blood work is dif but i plan on doing it 7-8 weeks in. In my country i usually just go for my blood work once a year and i they don't ask me about what i want i think they just do it for like 'important' stuff.Should i ask them to do it for the specific things i need and if so what are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamewastaken View Post
    So do you think i should up to 500mg.250/250 a week?since i'm only 3 days in my cicle i change that.Also i think im gonna do my first cicle and see how i respond during pct if not too bad ill stick to cycles but it its really bad ill find a doctor and go on trt.One more question,i'm living in europe so idk if blood work is dif but i plan on doing it 7-8 weeks in. In my country i usually just go for my blood work once a year and i they don't ask me about what i want i think they just do it for like 'important' stuff.Should i ask them to do it for the specific things i need and if so what are those?
    This will not end well for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mox_Ruby View Post
    This will not end well for you.
    If you don't have any constructive critisism to say please refrain from posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamewastaken View Post
    So do you think i should up to 500mg.250/250 a week?since i'm only 3 days in my cicle i change that.Also i think im gonna do my first cicle and see how i respond during pct if not too bad ill stick to cycles but it its really bad ill find a doctor and go on trt.One more question,i'm living in europe so idk if blood work is dif but i plan on doing it 7-8 weeks in. In my country i usually just go for my blood work once a year and i they don't ask me about what i want i think they just do it for like 'important' stuff.Should i ask them to do it for the specific things i need and if so what are those?
    Yes bump up to 500 per week but get an AI also. You can get bloods in week 6. Find a private company that can give you the tests you want. Here is a list of blood work to do for a cycle:
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    Lastly, the most important part is your blood work. Steroids will wreak havoc on your blood levels. So you need to have panels ordered before, during and after your cycle. This will identify many things so that you can succeed and maintain a good state of health.

    Blood work you need (at minimum):

    1. Testosterone , Total
    2. Testosterone, Free
    3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
    4. CBC (Compete blood count)
    5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
    6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
    7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)

    These panels need to be done pre-cycle to ensure that your internals are ready for this ride. Mid-cycle to verify that your estrogen blocker dose is working, your blood isn't too thick, your liver is still safe and that your gear is legitimate and not fake or underdosed. Post cycle so that you can verify that you've completed your cycle safely and no issues need attention.

    Here is your blood work timing:

    Pre-Cycle blood work: 2 weeks prior to cycle.
    Mid-Cycle blood work: 7 to 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle. Or 5 weeks into an 8 weeker.
    Post-Cycle blood work: 6 weeks after PCT.

    Thickening of the blood is very dangerous and steroids will thicken your blood. The increased RBC production will result in higher hematocrit levels. This number comes back with your CBC panel. It is best to keep this close to 50%. Once it reaches 55% or higher, you're at risk of a blood clot, extreme fatigue, high blood pressure, headaches and a host of other concerns. To resolve this issue, you'll need to donate blood. This will lower your hematocrit levels. Be very cautious, because if your level reach 55%, most donation centers will reject/refuse a donation from you. Then you'll have to get a prescription from a doctor for a therapeutic phlebotomy. This is why mid-cycle blood work is important.
    Read the whole thread too since you haven't,
    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...ml#post6638605

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamewastaken View Post
    So do you think i should up to 500mg.250/250 a week?since i'm only 3 days in my cicle i change that.Also i think im gonna do my first cicle and see how i respond during pct if not too bad ill stick to cycles but it its really bad ill find a doctor and go on trt.One more question,i'm living in europe so idk if blood work is dif but i plan on doing it 7-8 weeks in. In my country i usually just go for my blood work once a year and i they don't ask me about what i want i think they just do it for like 'important' stuff.Should i ask them to do it for the specific things i need and if so what are those?
    I would put down the needle and spend time educating yourself - there's tons of information available on the stickies. You are young and have lots of time in front of you.


    Lots of people are like you and think Test for the rest of their life is easy - until you realize the price (thousands of dollars), the time investment, and all the headaches that come with it (travelling, negative stigmatism from the uneducated, hiding it from friends/family/SO)


    Cousin provided some great advice as well but your posts indicate you aren't ready.
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    Thanks to both of you for the help.I'll up the dosage to 500 and i'll start searching for a medical institution that does those tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I would put down the needle and spend time educating yourself - there's tons of information available on the stickies. You are young and have lots of time in front of you.


    Lots of people are like you and think Test for the rest of their life is easy - until you realize the price (thousands of dollars), the time investment, and all the headaches that come with it (travelling, negative stigmatism from the uneducated, hiding it from friends/family/SO)


    Cousin provided some great advice as well but your posts indicate you aren't ready.
    Quote Originally Posted by usernamewastaken View Post
    Thanks to both of you for the help.I'll up the dosage to 500 and i'll start searching for a medical institution that does those tests.
    Just checked his age, yes big mistake here and I agree with Windex, you are not ready for a cycle.

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