Oral steroid followed by Testosterone

[Dr.L]

Hello guys, I would really appreciate the advise on a few questions about a cycle.

If someone has been taking an Oral only Steroid Cycle (e.g. Dbol) for 4 weeks but realizes it was a bad choice and decides to take a Testosterone E cycle for 10-12 weeks (500mg/week) immediately after that, would that be OK? Should he stop the oral and go straight to PCT or do the Test E cycle 10-12 weeks followed by PCT? What would you suggest.

Thanks

[Octaneforce]

Well that 12 week test e cycle will be more like a 16 week cycle because you were surpressed while using dbol. Which is a long cycle but not unheard of.

Id probably tell the person to stop the oral, do a pct, and then get bloodwork a few months later to baseline everything. If someone is foolish enough to do dbol only, then they are not ready to inject either. This person needs to pump the brakes and realize what they are getting into and do more research. Its more than just “is this unhealthy?”

[AlphaMindz]

You will typically be advised to complete PCT and then run the Test cycle after 4 weeks off.

My advise will be based on your age and your natural Test levels. If you're over 25 and your levels are under 400 then I would personally run the Test at 500mg/week and then stay on at 250mg/week after cycle.

You're either in or you're out man. Why are you popping Dbol anyway? Trying to look a little bigger in your shirt and someone told you that Dbol will get you jacked quick? What is your purpose for taking it is my question?

What do you think the long term outcome is going to be? Do you think some pics of you at the beach holding 10 lbs of water weight are gonna change your life? Smarten up bro and plan this shit out. And have a reason for getting into this life other than wanting to put on some quick sloppy size with complete disregard for the TRT you're VERY likely going to end up needing.

*I'm not trying to be a dick but god damn I wanna knock some sense into these young bucks sometimes!

[cousinmuscles]

You will typically be advised to complete PCT and then run the Test cycle after 4 weeks off.

My advise will be based on your age and your natural Test levels. If you're over 25 and your levels are under 400 then I would personally run the Test at 500mg/week and then stay on at 250mg/week after cycle.

You're either in or you're out man. Why are you popping Dbol anyway? Trying to look a little bigger in your shirt and someone told you that Dbol will get you jacked quick? What is your purpose for taking it is my question?

What do you think the long term outcome is going to be? Do you think some pics of you at the beach holding 10 lbs of water weight are gonna change your life? Smarten up bro and plan this shit out. And have a reason for getting into this life other than wanting to put on some quick sloppy size with complete disregard for the TRT you're VERY likely going to end up needing.

*I'm not trying to be a dick but god damn I wanna knock some sense into these young bucks sometimes!

That wasn't so good advice.

TRT is a lifelong decision and is not something you jump on because your test levels were under 400, you need to have the symptoms of it first and have a doctor prescribed you TRT (and assess whether there is something else causing your problems first).

250mg is also an unhealthy high dose for TRT which will lead to several problems down the road.

Not having access to pharmaceutical grade testosterone/a prescription is a reckless way of doing things.

[AlphaMindz]

That wasn't so good advice.

TRT is a lifelong decision and is not something you jump on because your test levels were under 400, you need to have the symptoms of it first and have a doctor prescribed you TRT (and assess whether there is something else causing your problems first).

250mg is also an unhealthy high dose for TRT which will lead to several problems down the road.

Not having access to pharmaceutical grade testosterone/a prescription is a reckless way of doing things.

Fair enough brother but that's why I say "what I would personally do"

I completely agree that getting on TRT is a life long decision and shouldn't be taken lightly. That's exactly why I stress it so much with young guys dabbling with steroids to make some quick fat and water gains in order to fill out their shirt. I'm trying to make them aware of the fact that if you do steroids it's inevitable to need hormone replacement therapy at some point.

I just want to make it clear to a kid popping dbol that there's a very good chance he will end up on trt if he wants to play with steroids. I don't think that's a bad impression to give young bucks, especially cause it's true.

I've said many times I'm not a doctor, scientist, or anything else that qualifies me over anyone else giving advice. For me personally, being under 400 is not acceptable. I don't have vitality in the 300 range or less...For others they may be ok with being average or possibly even low...Sometimes there are health reasons for that and that's fine. I'm referring to being in an optimal state for making gains.

[cousinmuscles]

Fair enough brother but that's why I say "what I would personally do"

I completely agree that getting on TRT is a life long decision and shouldn't be taken lightly. That's exactly why I stress it so much with young guys dabbling with steroids to make some quick fat and water gains in order to fill out their shirt. I'm trying to make them aware of the fact that if you do steroids it's inevitable to need hormone replacement therapy at some point.

I just want to make it clear to a kid popping dbol that there's a very good chance he will end up on trt if he wants to play with steroids. I don't think that's a bad impression to give young bucks, especially cause it's true.

I've said many times I'm not a doctor, scientist, or anything else that qualifies me over anyone else giving advice. For me personally, being under 400 is not acceptable. I don't have vitality in the 300 range or less...For others they may be ok with being average or possibly even low...Sometimes there are health reasons for that and that's fine. I'm referring to being in an optimal state for making gains.

Many people do lots and lots of cycle and never need TRT.

Apart from that, you have the option of being considerate and not just expressing thoughts, because of how it can impact others when you give it as advice.

[AlphaMindz]

Many people do lots and lots of cycle and never need TRT.

Apart from that, you have the option of being considerate and not just expressing thoughts, because of how it can impact others when you give it as advice.

We will have to agree to disagree on that because my experience shows otherwise.

[AlphaMindz]

And honestly Cousin if we're talking about sending the right message then what kind of message are you sending by making that statement?

[Dr.L]

Ok, some of you say running PCT would be the best choice.

What if the person runs Test E only for 8 weeks instead of 12 weeks after the 1 month oral only. Is it worth it or not? Has anyone done this before or something similar?

[Dr.L]

You will typically be advised to complete PCT and then run the Test cycle after 4 weeks off.

My advise will be based on your age and your natural Test levels. If you're over 25 and your levels are under 400 then I would personally run the Test at 500mg/week and then stay on at 250mg/week after cycle.

You're either in or you're out man. Why are you popping Dbol anyway? Trying to look a little bigger in your shirt and someone told you that Dbol will get you jacked quick? What is your purpose for taking it is my question?

What do you think the long term outcome is going to be? Do you think some pics of you at the beach holding 10 lbs of water weight are gonna change your life? Smarten up bro and plan this shit out. And have a reason for getting into this life other than wanting to put on some quick sloppy size with complete disregard for the TRT you're VERY likely going to end up needing.

*I'm not trying to be a dick but god damn I wanna knock some sense into these young bucks sometimes!

Relax kid. I never said I was taking Dbol, so next time stick to answering the question or don't bother.

[Capebuffalo]

Relax kid. I never said I was taking Dbol, so next time stick to answering the question or don't bother.

Your original post:

If someone has been taking an Oral only Steroid Cycle (e.g. Dbol ) for 4 weeks but realizes it was a bad choice and decides to take a Testosterone E cycle for 10-12 weeks (500mg/week) immediately after that, would that be OK? Should he stop the oral and go straight to PCT or do the Test E cycle 10-12 weeks followed by PCT? What would you suggest.

Leads the reader to the conclusion that you or someone has been taking dbol for 4 weeks.

[Dr.L]

Your original post:

If someone has been taking an Oral only Steroid Cycle (e.g. Dbol ) for 4 weeks but realizes it was a bad choice and decides to take a Testosterone E cycle for 10-12 weeks (500mg/week) immediately after that, would that be OK? Should he stop the oral and go straight to PCT or do the Test E cycle 10-12 weeks followed by PCT? What would you suggest.

Leads the reader to the conclusion that you or someone has been taking dbol for 4 weeks.

I get what you mean but it's still not relevant to the question asked in the first place.

[Capebuffalo]

I get what you mean but it's still not relevant to the question asked in the first place.

How is it not relevant ? It’s the first statement in your question. Oral only steroid cycle (I.e. dbol)

Now the persons not relevant ?

What is relevant?

Can you restate your question?

[AlphaMindz]

Relax kid. I never said I was taking Dbol, so next time stick to answering the question or don't bother.

For starters I'm not a kid but I understand why you said that so fair enough. I'm not sure why I assumed you were a youngen, prob because these types of posts are almost always put up by kids still living with their parents who have no business getting involved with this stuff in the first place. So I apologize for assuming.

I will also say that it wasn't necessary for me to speak to you in a condescending manner. I wasn't in the best mood when I posted that so I will apologize for coming across like a dick. Whether it's you or actually a "friend" is only for you to know. You are a good friend for putting this effort in to get information for your boy if, in fact, that is the case.

Lastly, I'm not sure why I got into the trt subject in this particular thread cause it wasn't warranted at all. I guess it has to do with the fact that I want these young bucks to understand that doing steroids even just one time could become a lifelong commitment. When I saw the post, I pictured a young kid with zero knowledge of the possible repercussions of popping dbol for a month to blow up real quick and my intention was to help him realize that it's not worth the possible consequences.

Now, how about them Eagles haha!?

[AlphaMindz]

^^Well said Octane

[cousinmuscles]

Hello guys, I would really appreciate the advise on a few questions about a cycle.

If someone has been taking an Oral only Steroid Cycle (e.g. Dbol) for 4 weeks but realizes it was a bad choice and decides to take a Testosterone E cycle for 10-12 weeks (500mg/week) immediately after that, would that be OK? Should he stop the oral and go straight to PCT or do the Test E cycle 10-12 weeks followed by PCT? What would you suggest.

Thanks

If you're going to run a testosterone cycle you'll need to have some things in order first. Do you have an AI, HCG, PCT (clomid and nolva) at hand? Do you know your hematocrit levels? Read this thread thoroughly before jumping on a cycle https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html

[kelkel]

How about those Eagles!

[AlphaMindz]

How about those Eagles!

Haha ok the wise one has spoken. You can't argue with those legs lmao!

[David LoPan]

Never run an oral cycle only unless you are a woman! Read all the oral steroids profiles and they all say they suppress our natural test levels. If you are going to get orals then do them both at the same time to get the best results. This is not really rocket science. If you do oral AAS then you need to be on Test peroid.

[Dr.L]

OK, so David answered choice A and added "Get bloodwork", thanks for the explanation. Anyone else has a different choice?

[Ashop]

Hello guys, I would really appreciate the advise on a few questions about a cycle.

If someone has been taking an Oral only Steroid Cycle (e.g. Dbol) for 4 weeks but realizes it was a bad choice and decides to take a Testosterone E cycle for 10-12 weeks (500mg/week) immediately after that, would that be OK? Should he stop the oral and go straight to PCT or do the Test E cycle 10-12 weeks followed by PCT? What would you suggest.

Thanks

You could go from your oral only cycle into your TEST E cycle. No reason you shouldn't be able to do that successfully.