First cycle

**anythinggoes** · 07-01-2018, 07:23 AM

22, 5’7, 15%
Week 1-10 TEST-E 1,200 MG (monday 600mg thursday600mg)
Week 1-4 DBOL 50MG ED
Week 8-12 MSTEN 40 MG ED (pray for my liver)
Weeks 11-12 (clearing test e from system)
Weeks 1-10 Aromasin (not clear)

PCT:
Nolvadex :40/40/20/20
Clomid:100/100/50/50

Ancillaries:
Liver Support
COQ10
Non-stim fat burner
ON Mass Gainer

Diet:
3,500 Calories, 360 Protein

Notes/Comments:
Yes, 22. I know, 1st Post, and even if I do this cycle perfect there is a possibility to damage my endocrine system, run it. I am planning to try to do 2G of protein per pound. My cycle explaination, I’ve had vets tell me they wish they would have done a G or so on their first and some that say I shouldn’t do it at all, run it. On Another note, I will stop test e on week 10 run msten for the last 4(8-12) to keep my body anabolic until the test clears out and then start pct. Is my PCT strong enough? or should I extend it? Also, since this is technically my first cycle, (prohormone orals only before) I looked up signs to tell if my estrogen is too low or too high, so depending on symptoms I shall dose my AI accordingly but I want to start my AI starting the first week, so ED, EOD, E3D? I don’t know. If so, 12.5? 25? I don’t know, I would like your input on my AI, but if anything I shall run it 12.5 EOD because I’d rather not have high E. Got bloods beforehand, will get bloods 4 or 5 weeks in.

Goals: Gain as much mass in one sitting, not so much strength.

**Mr.BB** · 07-01-2018, 08:15 AM

1200mg of test, and 2 orals?

Can you a picture of your current physique?

**anythinggoes** · 07-01-2018, 12:26 PM

I would rather not go through editing and stuff to mark out tattoos, complacency. Also, bump cause I’d really love some advice on my AI.

**Windex** · 07-01-2018, 12:40 PM

Why do you want to take as much test as what pros run on your very first cycle ? Are you just trolling and looking for a rise out of people? Surely you can't be that ignorant.

**cousinmuscles** · 07-01-2018, 12:49 PM

1200mg is a ton of test. Use half of that.

12,5 is a good dose for exemestane, daily or split it to twice per day. Read this thread for info https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rdosed-ai.html

Don't run two orals. Run test only for your first cycle.

**Mr.BB** · 07-01-2018, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by anythinggoes

I would rather not go through editing and stuff to mark out tattoos, complacency. Also, bump cause I’d really love some advice on my AI.

Save it, will be blunt its a stupid cycle.

You are worried about AI? Nobody will be able to give you a good answer in 1.2g of test plus dbol . For 500mg recommend 0.25mg adex EOD, to start and adjust with mid cycle bw. You have no idea how your body reacts to steroids . Taking that huge amount wont make you grow anymore than with a normal 1st cycle dosage, you need to grow into the dosages. Too much can counter productive.

The clearance time for 1.2g its not 2 weeks.

**Chrisp83TRT** · 07-01-2018, 07:58 PM

You’re looking to do over a gram a week and you’re main concern is with AI ...ON YOUR FIRST CYCLE?

You didn’t put your weight but you’re eating 360g protein?

You’re taking a bunch of orals and then say “pray for my liver” like this is a joke?

...umm and you’re 22 ?

And to top it off ... you want to gain as much size as possible and not care about strength? How do you think that size is going to come on ? Curling 10 pound weights for 12 weeks ? Haha

This has to be a joke

**Chrisp83TRT** · 07-01-2018, 08:01 PM

This is why people that are young should not make any rational decisions.
I’m glad I waited till I was 35 to plan out my first cycle.

**MACKATTACK** · 07-01-2018, 09:05 PM

1200mg is entirely too much Test for a first cycle. The first cycle should be a learning phase, more gear doesn’t mean more gains.

Also if you are taking three compounds for the first time if u get bad side effects how do u know which compound is causing it.

Not everything goes smoothly.....

**anythinggoes** · 07-02-2018, 12:23 AM

I’d rather not see it as a joke but in all seriousness. I’ll drop the msten and continue with the test and dbol to jumpstart the cycle. I will adjust my AI accordingly and another concern is PCT. Is my PCT good enough? Shall I extend it? It’s a silly thing to say that I’m not worried about strength, obviously strength will come but that is not my main priority is what I was trying to get across. I knew the age thing would get some people wild up because the development of endocrine system doesn’t stop till 25 and that I may cause permanent damage to myself for the rest of my life but obviously I’m willing to take the risk if I’ve planned this cycle for a while now. I weigh 180, so I wanted to hit 2G protein for each pound, that’s where the 360 protein came from. I appreciate everybodies replies good or bad, I take all feedback in and consider the outcome.

**Back In Black** · 07-02-2018, 12:30 AM

You know what. If you believed what you had been told you would be following their advice not here checking it out and wasting peoples time by not listening to their advice.

Maybe somebody will come along and say you have an a,acing first cycle.

Is your PCT enough? Blood work before and after will tell you that.

Your protein intake is way overkill, you should really have your diet fixed before you even consider any kind of cycle.

**Mr.BB** · 07-02-2018, 02:25 AM

Serious candidate for "All I got from steroids was a pair of tits" award.

**charger69** · 07-02-2018, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Serious candidate for "All I got from steroids was a pair of tits" award.

LMAO!

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**MACKATTACK** · 07-02-2018, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Serious candidate for "All I got from steroids was a pair of tits" award.

I died lmao.......

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 07-02-2018, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Serious candidate for "All I got from steroids was a pair of tits" award.

Serious candidate for “Best response to this thread” award

**kbunyan** · 07-02-2018, 09:29 AM

I am a newbie and even I chuckled. No buddy that wayyyy higher for first cycle.

**anythinggoes** · 07-03-2018, 12:26 AM

thanks for all the advice, I will eventually log it and tell ya’ll how it goes.

**cousinmuscles** · 07-03-2018, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by anythinggoes

thanks for all the advice, I will eventually log it and tell ya’ll how it goes.

Well if you're going to do 1.2g test and dbol with exemestane, start at 12,5mg twice per day for a total of 25mg per day. Keep it at least 8 hours apart. Take with a meal that has over 10g fat. If you feel signs of gyno bump it up to 25mg twice per day. Get a sensitive estradiol test 6 weeks in.

**Chrisp83TRT** · 07-03-2018, 06:44 AM

That’s the thing with younger people, they are stubborn. They know doing this and that is a risk and yet they still are going to do it .... for what ? A few pounds of lean mass.
You are willing to ruin your growing brain function and hormones for a few pounds of muscle ?
That’s why children shouldn’t play with adult things.

After all is said and done , he still says “I’ll log it and Lerner’s everyone know how it goes”
Top pro’s run over grams.... this person is looking to do this his first cycle.
I don’t get it ...