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    Coffeehead is offline Associate Member
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    Question Tren/NPP/Test Cycle - Advice needed

    I"m building my next cycle that I plan to start in about 6 weeks.

    The plan is to recomp, not really looking to get too huge, but definitely want to add size while leaning out. Originally, this was going to be my stack:

    Test Prop @ 300mg: Weeks 1-10
    Tren Ace @ 150mg: Weeks 1-8
    Adex @ .5mg EOD
    Caber (as needed)
    Cardarine @ 20mg: Week 1-10

    I've used NPP before and as someone with a reconstructed ACL, I noticed it did wonders for my knee when I was repeatedly hitting legs heavy. I know one 19-nor compound is enough, but would be harmful to include some low does NPP, somewhere between 100-200mg per week from weeks 1-8 with the Test/Tren?

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    Windex is offline Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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    I would flip the doses. Test prop at 150mg and Tren Ace at 300mg. Both for 8 or 10 weeks. Give you the ability to lower Adex and/or potentially remove it completely (but should still be on hand).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I would flip the doses. Test prop at 150mg and Tren Ace at 300mg. Both for 8 or 10 weeks. Give you the ability to lower Adex and/or potentially remove it completely (but should still be on hand).
    Isnt 300mg Tren -A a little high for someone who has never used it before?

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    Windex is offline Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeehead View Post
    Isnt 300mg Tren-A a little high for someone who has never used it before?
    You could do 200/200 split with Test and Tren or 200/250. If you are concerned with your knee then you could swap Tren for Deca and add in Masteron . Something like

    Prop 150-250mg
    NPP 2-300mg
    Masteron 2-300mg

    Don't have experience using 2 19nors so hopefully someone who does can chime in and offer additional information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    You could do 200/200 split with Test and Tren or 200/250. If you are concerned with your knee then you could swap Tren for Deca and add in Masteron . Something like

    Prop 150-250mg
    NPP 2-300mg
    Masteron 2-300mg

    Don't have experience using 2 19nors so hopefully someone who does can chime in and offer additional information.
    Mast is clean and npp has little to no sides so windex makes good points and made it a better cycle in my opinion.
    Iíve never used Tren. I always hear great things but the sides can be for lack of a better word, crap.
    Deca is always a good option but you donít want that deca dick but you should fine while running test.

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    NPP is exactly the same as Deca , just faster acting.I would never run two progestin based steroids at the same time. So tren and NPP would be a negative.
    Last edited by DeanDestructo; 07-01-2018 at 11:19 PM.

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    300 mg is a low to moderate tren dose IMHO. I wouldn't go under 300.

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    I ran 100mg tren per week and it worked great. No clue why you would start much higher than that your first run. To keep levels extremely stable I put tren in a slin pin for daily injections at pretty much the same time. Tren does not agree with me for other reasons so I no longer run it.

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    Appreciate all the replies.

    NPP would be for therapeutic purposes primarily, so if I add it into a stack it's not going to replace Tren .

    Sounds likes it's not a good idea.

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    See how you feel on Tren . I seem to be very susceptible to Tren sides. The nightly sweat, insomnia, rapid heart rate, etc is pronounced at 300mg/wk. If the sides gets too much, just lower your dose. You'll feel better and you'll still get results.

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