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    my side effect from 3rd cycle can not go away

    hi all,
    i am now 90kg and 178cm height, 34yrs old
    my 1st cycle is Deca Mix 350mg/week , Test E 300mg/week 1-10weeks + 4 weeks PCT
    after 6month , i ran my 2nd cycle which is dbol 50mg/ed 1-4weeks Deca 250mg/week ,sust 375mg/week 1-12weeks + 4 weeks PCT

    them after 3month i started my 3rd cycle and also my 1st tren cycle which i have considered i did not fully recovered from last cycle
    te 600mg/week ,eq 400mg, 1-16weeks , dbol 60mg 1-4 weeks , tren a 150mg/week 5-16weeks + 4weeks pct with 2000iu/e3d *8

    now after 7 month my sexual drive is now ok but i am still suffering erection problem

    is this because i am not recovered from last cycle ?

    what should i do ?

    can someone help me out here ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinbwong View Post
    hi all,
    i am now 90kg and 178cm height, 34yrs old
    my 1st cycle is Deca Mix 350mg/week , Test E 300mg/week 1-10weeks + 4 weeks PCT
    after 6month , i ran my 2nd cycle which is dbol 50mg/ed 1-4weeks Deca 250mg/week ,sust 375mg/week 1-12weeks + 4 weeks PCT

    them after 3month i started my 3rd cycle and also my 1st tren cycle which i have considered i did not fully recovered from last cycle
    te 600mg/week ,eq 400mg, 1-16weeks , dbol 60mg 1-4 weeks , tren a 150mg/week 5-16weeks + 4weeks pct with 2000iu/e3d *8

    now after 7 month my sexual drive is now ok but i am still suffering erection problem

    is this because i am not recovered from last cycle ?

    what should i do ?

    can someone help me out here ?
    What was your pct outline? Just hcg at 2000iu e3d?

    Did you use nolva or clomid?

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    yes 100mg/day clomid and 40mg/d nolva with 2500iu/e3d 4weeks and 50mg/d clomid and 20mg/d nolva 15days after last shot of hcg

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post
    What was your pct outline? Just hcg at 2000iu e3d?

    Did you use nolva or clomid?
    yes 100mg/day clomid and 40mg/d nolva with 2500iu/e3d 4weeks and 50mg/d clomid and 20mg/d nolva 15days after last shot of hcg

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    Your body's still recovering. It takes a while for your body to recover after nearly back to back cycles, especially with Tren . It may take a year to fully recover after your cycles. The thing to do now is to get a blood test to see where you're at. You should be close to being normal but you could also have messed yourself up so you need bloods to set a baseline.

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    This has been common as of lately . Hmmm.

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    HCG during PCT will delay recovery. Also clearing time is not same with high dosages.

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    You didn't wait long enough from pct end dates to start new cycles.

    And had 19nors in all of them.

    Good job

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    You are way to ambitious with your cycles man.
    Your first cycle isn’t exactly a good idea.

    Have you done your research regarding compounds and what they do and what to add and what not to add ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Your body's still recovering. It takes a while for your body to recover after nearly back to back cycles, especially with Tren. It may take a year to fully recover after your cycles. The thing to do now is to get a blood test to see where you're at. You should be close to being normal but you could also have messed yourself up so you need bloods to set a baseline.
    thank you,i will do the blood work this week , will post the result here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    You are way to ambitious with your cycles man.
    Your first cycle isn’t exactly a good idea.

    Have you done your research regarding compounds and what they do and what to add and what not to add ?
    at that time , i am still a newbie , i do what my friend told me do ... i will do more research from now on

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    You didn't wait long enough from pct end dates to start new cycles.

    And had 19nors in all of them.

    Good job
    i am confused about having 19nors in all of them , what does this mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinbwong View Post
    i am confused about having 19nors in all of them , what does this mean
    19nor modifications of testosterone . I.e. Decca and Tren .

    Two of the most infamous steroids hardest to recover from

    Especially short duration between cycles your PCTs did more hatm than just blasting and cruising

    Terrible hormonal roller coaster

    Shut down, reset with pct, and before you even stabilized after pct, shut down again with the harshest injectable aas known aside from halo and cheque drops

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinbwong View Post
    at that time , i am still a newbie , i do what my friend told me do ... i will do more research from now on
    Sorry to be blunt , but your friend isn’t being a good friend. glad you came here.
    Just like everything in life... start basic and simple and work your way up

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    Blood work is defiently your best option here. Make sure to get a full blood count, kidney and liver, lh, fsh. E2 , total test, free test and sex hormone binding globulin.

    Tren is a rough one. See what your bloods come back as then you can make decision on what to do next

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    19nor modifications of testosterone . I.e. Decca and Tren .

    Two of the most infamous steroids hardest to recover from

    Especially short duration between cycles your PCTs did more hatm than just blasting and cruising

    Terrible hormonal roller coaster

    Shut down, reset with pct, and before you even stabilized after pct, shut down again with the harshest injectable aas known aside from halo and cheque drops
    O i C, i dont know all about this before ....thank you for this info , i will have my blood tested ,see what i can do next

    thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    Sorry to be blunt , but your friend isn’t being a good friend. glad you came here.
    Just like everything in life... start basic and simple and work your way up
    yes i have learnt a lot here ~~i will work my way out ~~~~~~thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinbwong View Post
    O i C, i dont know all about this before ....thank you for this info , i will have my blood tested ,see what i can do next

    thank you,
    The thing about 19nor's is that they promote the increase of prolactin not estrogen. Prolactin is the hormone that makes you lose your erection after climax. With a high level of prolactin in your body, you will experience sexual side effects. Post your blood work. I'll be curious to see where you're at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    The thing about 19nor's is that they promote the increase of prolactin not estrogen. Prolactin is the hormone that makes you lose your erection after climax. With a high level of prolactin in your body, you will experience sexual side effects. Post your blood work. I'll be curious to see where you're at.
    thank you very much , due to working , i will go to hospital for blood work tmr , i believe the result will come out next , lets see where i am ~

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    Your problem is easy to identify yet difficult to rectify.

    Sexual sides during/after a tren cycle are commonplace. The majority of people who use tren will have difficulty pinning down the proper drug and exact dosage to effectively combat sexual sides.

    Blood work will tell you everything you need to know. Chances are you prolactin is high and you'll prob just need to take an AI to lower it. keep us posted on bloods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Your problem is easy to identify yet difficult to rectify.

    Sexual sides during/after a tren cycle are commonplace. The majority of people who use tren will have difficulty pinning down the proper drug and exact dosage to effectively combat sexual sides.

    Blood work will tell you everything you need to know. Chances are you prolactin is high and you'll prob just need to take an AI to lower it. keep us posted on bloods.
    Your advice and posts keep getting exponentially better and more precise. You'll be painted red in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Your body's still recovering. It takes a while for your body to recover after nearly back to back cycles, especially with Tren. It may take a year to fully recover after your cycles. The thing to do now is to get a blood test to see where you're at. You should be close to being normal but you could also have messed yourself up so you need bloods to set a baseline.
    i have done the blood work , below is the result
    FSH 5.8 miu/ml
    LH 5.05 miu/ml
    PRL 7.44 ng/ml
    E2 36 pg/ml
    P4 0.16 ng/ml
    T 4.73 ng/ml
    Last edited by alvinbwong; 07-11-2018 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Your problem is easy to identify yet difficult to rectify.

    Sexual sides during/after a tren cycle are commonplace. The majority of people who use tren will have difficulty pinning down the proper drug and exact dosage to effectively combat sexual sides.

    Blood work will tell you everything you need to know. Chances are you prolactin is high and you'll prob just need to take an AI to lower it. keep us posted on bloods.
    i have done the blood work , below is the result
    FSH 5.8 miu/ml
    LH 5.05 miu/ml
    PRL 7.44 ng/ml
    E2 36 pg/ml
    P4 0.16 ng/ml
    T 4.73 ng/ml

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    Hopefully someone here can help you as far as recovering.

    I agree with what someone else said, your cycles were very ambitious for being your first cycle. In the future, I would honestly go back to just doing a test only cycle because right now all you know is how a combination of things affects you. You don't know how each individual thing will affect you. Figure out how your body reacts to just test, then what I would do, and what I personally plan on doing, is trying different compounds depending on goals, and seeing how they affect you, then maybe start stacking the ones that you like.

    Generally speaking, recovery time between cycles is supposed to be time on cycle + time on PCT. You didn't wait long enough between your second and third cycles, though I'm not sure how much that's contributing to your current situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinbwong View Post
    i have done the blood work , below is the result
    FSH 5.8 miu/ml
    LH 5.05 miu/ml
    PRL 7.44 ng/ml
    E2 36 pg/ml
    P4 0.16 ng/ml
    T 4.73 ng/ml
    Nothing wrong with your hormones. Is your erectile dysfunction permanent? I mean, not even alone with masturbation it gets erect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    The thing about 19nor's is that they promote the increase of prolactin not estrogen. Prolactin is the hormone that makes you lose your erection after climax. With a high level of prolactin in your body, you will experience sexual side effects. Post your blood work. I'll be curious to see where you're at.
    Yeah I would bet that it's a prolactin issue. I had that problem after running tren until I started proviron and it resolved it almost right away. However if you'r not on trt or cycle I wouldn't recommend proviron as it is hpta supressive. From what I understand it can remain high for an extended period after 19nor use. If you see an endocrine doc he'll likely prescribe a low dose of arimidex to help lower the troublesome hormones via estrogen channel if your blood work indicates high estrogen and prolactin.

    *just noticed the blood work post lol. Prolactin isn't even high so I'm at a loss. Try cialis it'll solve your problem.
    Last edited by AlphaMindz; 07-12-2018 at 03:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcânn View Post
    Hopefully someone here can help you as far as recovering.

    I agree with what someone else said, your cycles were very ambitious for being your first cycle. In the future, I would honestly go back to just doing a test only cycle because right now all you know is how a combination of things affects you. You don't know how each individual thing will affect you. Figure out how your body reacts to just test, then what I would do, and what I personally plan on doing, is trying different compounds depending on goals, and seeing how they affect you, then maybe start stacking the ones that you like.

    Generally speaking, recovery time between cycles is supposed to be time on cycle + time on PCT. You didn't wait long enough between your second and third cycles, though I'm not sure how much that's contributing to your current situation.
    lesson and learn lol~~~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Nothing wrong with your hormones. Is your erectile dysfunction permanent? I mean, not even alone with masturbation it gets erect?
    it can get erect, but it is just not good enough on hardness and time

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinbwong View Post
    it can get erect, but it is just not good enough on hardness and time
    So you can masturbate? If you can, do it. Watch some porn, practice makes perfection.

    You problem is not hormonal, it's in your head, probably anxiety or performance anxiety.
    How long have you been with this girl and how is the relationship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    So you can masturbate? If you can, do it. Watch some porn, practice makes perfection.

    You problem is not hormonal, it's in your head, probably anxiety or performance anxiety.
    How long have you been with this girl and how is the relationship?
    before the 3rd Cycle , i could do well, after 3rd, i feel weak on bed .....

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