First cycle STOPPING @ 500mg per week of Test E.

**stillblazin916** · 07-06-2018, 09:36 PM

So I have a few questions for you guys. Please don't bash me, I know I made a mistake but now I feel I am making the right decision.

I am 25 5'5 and 145 lbs. It may not seem like it, but I am pretty damn cut for my size. Although, I do know I still need years of training before I decide to pin.

Anyways, story goes. I was telling my friend about how much sarms have helped me when we were going to the gym together and he basically told me how it was bullshit and that I should try gear because on his first cycle he gained around 30 lbs. Hes a complete dumbass because he juiced at only 120lbs and hes my height. Yet, he did get gains and didn't lose anything from it. So this fool convinced me to try out test e and dbol (never started the dbol). He thought I wanted 750mg per week and had my first pin at 350mg. I told him no I only wanted 500mg, so he said just do 200 mg on your next pin. So thats what I did. I did my first pin on monday at 350mg, and my second pin wednesday night at 200mg. I am now deciding I want to stop. For many reasons, first being that I should be training A LOT before I even think of doing this. Also, I have bad anxeity and the test e has been fucking with my heart rate and everything else which I know is common for people with anxiety. I also have bad insomnia, but the insomnia may be withdrawals because I'm coming off kratom after taking it everyday for 3 months.

My first question is, should I PCT? I get a lot of mixed opinions on these forums

My second question is how long is this gunna take before I start feeling normal without this shit in my system? I'm only on day 5 and I already don't necessarily like the way it feels.

Last question is, what do you guys suggest I do about the sleep problems. Do ya'll think it could be the test? And if so, how long will this reside because its interfering with me being at work.

**usernamewastaken** · 07-07-2018, 04:49 AM

I decided to stop my cycle(2weeks and a half) to do it properly,with precycle bloods which i will get 2 weeks after test is out of my system (it's prob gonna be more since i have to wait for the appointment and shit so better),my mom knowing(and supporting me even tho she doesn't like this at all-what i'm doing),and having a doctor check me regurarely and talk to me about everything,and following a "course" of 1st aid help or some shit to learn how to inject properly.I talked to the best doctor in my country-for thesee kinds of things(my mom did) and he said i don't need pct after 2 weeks and a half so i highly doubt you will need.But to be safe listen to these guys since i don't know how much that doctor knows(since it's illegal).Only thing i got from these 2weeks and a half was a bit of strenght and was feeling like i could do ANYTHING and i'm the best.Now 1 week after(almost) i feel like b4 i took it.

**Windex** · 07-07-2018, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by stillblazin916

So I have a few questions for you guys. Please don't bash me, I know I made a mistake but now I feel I am making the right decision.

I am 25 5'5 and 145 lbs. It may not seem like it, but I am pretty damn cut for my size. Although, I do know I still need years of training before I decide to pin.

Anyways, story goes. I was telling my friend about how much sarms have helped me when we were going to the gym together and he basically told me how it was bullshit and that I should try gear because on his first cycle he gained around 30 lbs. Hes a complete dumbass because he juiced at only 120lbs and hes my height. Yet, he did get gains and didn't lose anything from it. So this fool convinced me to try out test e and dbol (never started the dbol). He thought I wanted 750mg per week and had my first pin at 350mg. I told him no I only wanted 500mg, so he said just do 200 mg on your next pin. So thats what I did. I did my first pin on monday at 350mg, and my second pin wednesday night at 200mg. I am now deciding I want to stop. For many reasons, first being that I should be training A LOT before I even think of doing this. Also, I have bad anxeity and the test e has been fucking with my heart rate and everything else which I know is common for people with anxiety. I also have bad insomnia, but the insomnia may be withdrawals because I'm coming off kratom after taking it everyday for 3 months.

My first question is, should I PCT? I get a lot of mixed opinions on these forums

My second question is how long is this gunna take before I start feeling normal without this shit in my system? I'm only on day 5 and I already don't necessarily like the way it feels.

Last question is, what do you guys suggest I do about the sleep problems. Do ya'll think it could be the test? And if so, how long will this reside because its interfering with me being at work.

The test hasn't even kicked it yet - it won't for several more weeks. All the problems are all in your head, from other medication, withdrawals from the medication you are no longer taking, or a combination of the above.

Steroids require a certain level maturity among many other things, and panicking after 2 injections doesn't correspond with the correct level of maturity.

You are correct in wanting to stop. You are very small regardless (weight wise)- all of your energy and money should be focused around diet and training. SARMs are garbage as well.

**Mr.BB** · 07-07-2018, 05:28 AM

If you just took 2 shots just drop it, no pct.

Do bw 6 weeks later to make sure you are fine.

**Ernst** · 07-07-2018, 01:03 PM

I would skip PCT. I agree with BB here.

Assuming that what you took is really just straight test e these symptoms are likely in your head, driven by your anxiety. First couple shots of test you probably wouldn't notice much of anything besides the injection site(s) being a bit sore.

Test levels should be closer to normal in about a week. However, what goes up must come down. You got on the hormone roller coaster and it's probably gonna be a few weeks for your body to compensate and get things back on track.

I have noticed that with raised androgens my sleep can suffer a bit. Nothing that can't be easily remedied with OTC herbal supps. However, this is definitely not the 'pretty bad insomnia' that you describe. I don't know jack about kratom but I'd probably blame that sooner than the test shots.

**stillblazin916** · 07-07-2018, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

The test hasn't even kicked it yet - it won't for several more weeks. All the problems are all in your head, from other medication, withdrawals from the medication you are no longer taking, or a combination of the above.

Steroids require a certain level maturity among many other things, and panicking after 2 injections doesn't correspond with the correct level of maturity.

You are correct in wanting to stop. You are very small regardless (weight wise)- all of your energy and money should be focused around diet and training. SARMs are garbage as well.

Hold on though. I need you to reiterate what you just said. I'm not panicking here. I think its weird that my heart rate goes up and it made me raise an eyebrow, but like I said I'm far from panicking. I'm somebody who actually does get panic attacks from time-to-time so I'd know. I'm pretty irritated about my sleep patterns lately though. I hope what you guys are saying is true and it's the kratom bullshit that is changing my sleep. I've came off of it before, and it did fuck with my sleep. My friend is still convincing me into buying the rest of my gear and to keep pinning because he says it's not even in my system yet. It puts me on the spot, not just because my friend is convincing me into finishing. But also because, this is something that I actually want to do. I just don't want these side effects to continue but from what you guys are saying it's not the test.

Also, why do you think sarms are garbage? I gained 10lbs from my last cycle. The only reason I would ask is for your expertise. I don't wanna be blowing my money on something I don't need. They are expensive now, because of the ban that is taking place.

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 07-07-2018, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by stillblazin916

Hold on though. I need you to reiterate what you just said. I'm not panicking here. I think its weird that my heart rate goes up and it made me raise an eyebrow, but like I said I'm far from panicking. I'm somebody who actually does get panic attacks from time-to-time so I'd know. I'm pretty irritated about my sleep patterns lately though. I hope what you guys are saying is true and it's the kratom bullshit that is changing my sleep. I've came off of it before, and it did fuck with my sleep. My friend is still convincing me into buying the rest of my gear and to keep pinning because he says it's not even in my system yet. It puts me on the spot, not just because my friend is convincing me into finishing. But also because, this is something that I actually want to do. I just don't want these side effects to continue but from what you guys are saying it's not the test.

Also, why do you think sarms are garbage? I gained 10lbs from my last cycle. The only reason I would ask is for your expertise. I don't wanna be blowing my money on something I don't need. They are expensive now, because of the ban that is taking place.

Remember what Windex said about AAS requiring a certain level of maturity?
Injecting synthetic hormones into your body is not something you’re ready for if you cave into peer pressure.

Why not just take the time, and learn about it first? That’ll give you time to get the other crap out of your system, and then you can make a more informed decision.

**stillblazin916** · 07-07-2018, 01:42 PM

Alright, I think thats what I'm gunna do. I shouldn't have went into this in the first place knowing that I was going through withdrawls which I know wasn't the most mature thing to do either.