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    Help with total test level

    Is 1741 decent? Was taken during week 8 of 500mg test e a week,was also taking 40mg tbol for 7 weeks but stopped about 4 days before bw test,I also had full blood panel also if needed,asked for test ,free test,and e2,but somehow was confusion, so I don't have those atm moment,just total testHelp with total test level-screenshot_20180718-094146.png

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    How many days after last injection was blood drawn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    How many days after last injection was blood drawn?
    That was at week 8 of cycle still on,but 3 days after injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70rs View Post
    That was at week 8 of cycle still on,but 3 days after injection
    Seems underdosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Seems underdosed.
    Alot or a little? It's my first cycle so this is all a learning experience

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    Anyone know what a typical level would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70rs View Post
    Anyone know what a typical level would be?
    Around 3500 for 500mgs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Around 3500 for 500mgs.
    Ok ty,the tbol would have been out of my system Right? So it's not bunk but severely under dosed correct,last tbol was about 4 days before bw

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    tbol will not affect your on cycle test level
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    tbol will not affect your on cycle test level
    Ok ty so much man! Now out of curiosity would you just ride it out at this or up the dosage? I planned on blasting and cruising for a while and ordered some geneza e250 a few days ago,still have about 6 more weeks on this cycle,ty all for your replies!

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    Just finish your cycle at the current dose. For the next cycle get a better source.
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    200mg per week get me around 1300-1500ng/dl
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Just finish your cycle at the current dose. For the next cycle get a better source.
    Ok,tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN View Post
    200mg per week get me around 1300-1500ng/dl
    Ok ty!

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    You should invest in pharmaceutical gear next time around for Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    You should invest in pharmaceutical gear next time around for Test.
    I'm new so you may have to walk me thru it,lol I ordered from an India pharmacy that came recommended to me,in thought it would have been pharmacy geade,but it's a live and learn experience I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Just finish your cycle at the current dose. For the next cycle get a better source.
    Do you mean switch the third party ugl I'm ordering it from or switch the pharma? Or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70rs View Post
    I'm new so you may have to walk me thru it,lol I ordered from an India pharmacy that came recommended to me,in thought it would have been pharmacy geade,but it's a live and learn experience I suppose.
    Do you live in India ? if not, Don't order internationally there is no reason to.

    Dont buy whatever gets recommended to you or you find online. There are tons of high quality sources in any country. You need to put in the time and do your independent research

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Do you live in India ? if not, Don't order internationally there is no reason to.

    Dont buy whatever gets recommended to you or you find online. There are tons of high quality sources in any country. You need to put in the time and do your independent research
    No,I live in the states,I ordered internationally because I was under the assumption they are legal there and will be a better grade? I don't know any local sources,I mean even geneza and Balkan wich i hear good things about are not domestic correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70rs View Post
    No,I live in the states,I ordered internationally because I was under the assumption they are legal there and will be a better grade? I don't know any local sources,I mean even geneza and Balkan wich i hear good things about are not domestic correct?
    I would invest the next month to familiarize yourself with the market in your part of the states. You can read reviews but they need to be taken with a grain of salt. You can absolutely buy pharma grade test in the US - you need to invest the time.

    Tough lesson to learn from the sounds of things but you can chalk up the learning experience to be better prepared for the next time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I would invest the next month to familiarize yourself with the market in your part of the states. You can read reviews but they need to be taken with a grain of salt. You can absolutely buy pharma grade test in the US - you need to invest the time.

    Tough lesson to learn from the sounds of things but you can chalk up the learning experience to be better prepared for the next time around.
    Thank you for taking the time to respond,if there's any pointers or tips they would be greatly appreciated, what may seem second nature to you, may be foreign to a first timer, I know we can't have links to other cites, but if there is any direction you can give me it would be great, o ordered some geneza as they seem to have a good rep,but again had to go thru a ugl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    tbol will not affect your on cycle test level
    Out of curiosity is that just with tbol? Or all orals?

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    I haven't done my first cycle yet, and haven't really started seriously looking for sources just yet, but as far as finding sources, I would just look on source boards in order to find potential sources, but DON'T GO BASED ON THEIR REVIEWS!!!! There's another forum I would recommend checking out (IDK if it's okay to say which one or not), where they're very uncensored and VERY critical of most sources. If you find a source you want to look more into, I'd look on that forum and just see what people have to say about it, but even before that, I would spend a good amount of time posting there and interacting with the community (at least a month or two) to get a feel for who knows what they're talking about, who contributes the most to the community, and overall, who seems to be the most knowledgeable and trustworthy. Then when finding out what people have to say about sources, find out what the most reputable people on there have to say.

    This is all just how I plan on doing things though. If anyone here with more experience has something different to say, I'd definitely go with that!!! Take what I say with a grain of salt because I'm still a newb here
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70rs View Post
    Out of curiosity is that just with tbol? Or all orals?
    all orals will not affect your on cycle total test levels. (see blow *)
    all orals may raise your free T levels by lowering SHBG.

    *(orals or any steroid may reduce SHBG. This will raise free T and actually lowers total a bit by reducing the half life of testosterone . Or more accurately, stopping test from being bound up to SHBG which then allows it to decay. But, free T may dramatically go up while total test slightly goes down.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    all orals will not affect your on cycle total test levels. (see blow *)
    all orals may raise your free T levels by lowering SHBG.

    *(orals or any steroid may reduce SHBG. This will raise free T and actually lowers total a bit by reducing the half life of testosterone. Or more accurately, stopping test from being bound up to SHBG which then allows it to decay. But, free T may dramatically go up while total test slightly goes down.)
    Ok ty so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70rs View Post
    Thank you for taking the time to respond,if there's any pointers or tips they would be greatly appreciated, what may seem second nature to you, may be foreign to a first timer, I know we can't have links to other cites, but if there is any direction you can give me it would be great, o ordered some geneza as they seem to have a good rep,but again had to go thru a ugl.
    This would be my advice

    - Don't buy online (website)

    - Don't buy from a friend or gym

    - Source yourself a rep

    - Buy pharmaceutical grade gear (Testosterone , Nolva & Clomid, Arimidex , etc). Expect to pay double or triple the price of UGL. The only time I will buy UGL is if it doesn't exist as pharmagrade (example = Tren ).

    - Research, research, research. If you think youve found a good option in a week, you will probably get burned again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    This would be my advice

    - Don't buy online (website)

    - Don't buy from a friend or gym

    - Source yourself a rep

    - Buy pharmaceutical grade gear (Testosterone , Nolva & Clomid, Arimidex , etc). Expect to pay double or triple the price of UGL. The only time I will buy UGL is if it doesn't exist as pharmagrade (example = Tren ).

    - Research, research, research. If you think youve found a good option in a week, you will probably get burned again.
    Ok ty for your time,but I'm in the states so for pharma grade I need to order it over seas,Balkan geneza pharmacom all have good reps correct? But I still need to order them form a website correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70rs View Post
    Ok ty for your time,but I'm in the states so for pharma grade I need to order it over seas,Balkan geneza pharmacom all have good reps correct? But I still need to order them form a website correct?
    No you don't need to order overseas. you can find pharma grade gear within the USA. Again, you need to dump a lot of time into research. Reread my previous post. I can't comment on Geneze / Balkan - I don't live in the USA. The only reason I know that pharma grade gear is available is my cousin in Florida is on TRT and buys the same depot-testosterone second hand as what he gets for TRT from the pharmacy and uses it during his blasts/cycles.
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