Anyone Run Tren+Mast without test base?

[Dazhy]

Well we are all know about the importance of test at least low dose on cycle.
But masteron have some properties like sex drive through the roof , well being , horny etc


Experiences here?

[Bio-Active]

It would still shut down your endogenous test production leaving you with low testosterone. Need to at least run trt dose of test

[Dazhy]

upppp

[HDThunder]

Haven't tried it. Wouldn't try it. Makes no sense. What fun is it being on the gas if your dick doesn't work?
And Mast will not do all those things on it's own. It might up your free Test if you're using Test in the first place.

[Dannyboy51577]

Haven't tried it. Wouldn't try it. Makes no sense. What fun is it being on the gas if your dick doesn't work?
And Mast will not do all those things on it's own. It might up your free Test if you're using Test in the first place.

Exactly. Ive seen alot of different bloodwork from guys including myself, that mast has a positive effect on free testosterone. But if you run tren mast without a test base, you are shit down and have no test to free up.

[charger69]

Well we are all know about the importance of test at least low dose on cycle.
But masteron have some properties like sex drive through the roof , well being , horny etc


Experiences here?

I do it 2 weeks out from a show. I retain water so I eliminate the test prop.
I wouldn’t do it for a long period though.


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[hollowedzeus]

I do it 2 weeks out from a show. I retain water so I eliminate the test prop.
I wouldn’t do it for a long period though.


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How bad do you feel being on tren for two weeks without test?

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[guitarzan]

How bad do you feel being on tren for two weeks without test?

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You dont notice it, or I dont

[Windex]

I do it 2 weeks out from a show. I retain water so I eliminate the test prop.
I wouldn’t do it for a long period though.


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What is the advantage of removing test versus going to Test Suspension / No Ester ?

[AlphaMindz]

You COULD do it but it isn't optimal, and you will have issues related to low test since your HPTA will be shut down.

As stated I would run at least a trt dose of test.

[guitarzan]

One shot of tren can shutdown test production, not s good idea

[Dazhy]

You COULD do it but it isn't optimal, and you will have issues related to low test since your HPTA will be shut down.

As stated I would run at least a trt dose of test.

what do you think of 50mg of test prop eod +100mg eod of tren and mast with ai? i bloat very quickly and hate it so much..damn.

[AlphaMindz]

what do you think of 50mg of test prop eod +100mg eod of tren and mast with ai? i bloat very quickly and hate it so much..damn.

I hear ya man. That's a great combination for lean, dry gains so I don't think you'll have a problem with bloating.. Also, try drinking a lot of water and keeping sodium intake moderate to low and that should def eliminate bloat. Especially with your estrogen in check.

Have you gotten blood work yet? We need to find your sweet spot for Arimidex dosing...The sooner you do that the better because I know you've had issues with that in the past. The mast will also help keep estrogen down..

If you still have issues with bloating on these compounds you can also try a mild diuretic like dandelion root.

[Dazhy]

I hear ya man. That's a great combination for lean, dry gains so I don't think you'll have a problem with bloating.. Also, try drinking a lot of water and keeping sodium intake moderate to low and that should def eliminate bloat. Especially with your estrogen in check.

Have you gotten blood work yet? We need to find your sweet spot for Arimidex dosing...The sooner you do that the better because I know you've had issues with that in the past. The mast will also help keep estrogen down..

If you still have issues with bloating on these compounds you can also try a mild diuretic like dandelion root.

Hey man thanks ,appreciate it.

Yes ill do a bloodwork because i need to stay lean year round for work/photoshots..the fucking bloat is getting me mad.. i look better with only 30mg of winstrol than sus 250 +100 eod of tren LOL.


Other option is add proviron to tren/mast for the sex drive but first need to know well my E2.

Cheers pal !

[guitarzan]

what do you think of 50mg of test prop eod +100mg eod of tren and mast with ai? i bloat very quickly and hate it so much..damn.

Shouldnt have bloating issues on that. That is probably the most popular cut cycle out there

[Chrisp83TRT]

I feel you have a lot on your plate ... keep it simple .

Judging by how many compounds you are combining, I would assume you’ve done many many cycles ?