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07-19-2018, 07:32 AM #1Associate Member
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07-19-2018, 07:34 AM #2
Sooooooo………..15 weeks of tren ?
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07-19-2018, 07:35 AM #3Associate Member
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The ester attached is very slow acting compared to acetate
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07-19-2018, 08:07 AM #4Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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07-19-2018, 08:54 AM #5
If you have never run tren before start with tren A in case you cant handle the side effects you can stop and clear it from your system faster.
Tren hex is very expensive and 99% of it being sold is not Hex normally its Tren E from what I have heard.
If you do run tren do not start at 450 mg a week and do not run it for 15 weeks that is a lot of tren especially if it is your first time.
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07-19-2018, 09:36 AM #6Associate Member
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I can't get my hands on real tren ace but i can get real tren hex (lab tested). I'm going to run 200 mgs a week for a couple of weeks and i might up the dose after that. But i i'm probably going to waste my money on fake tren ace if i go with the ugl.
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U don't just simply try tren . . . . . . Lol
Seriously though, stay away from E or Hex - start with Ace, or you'll really be pissed when you're chasing off sides for months at a time
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07-19-2018, 10:06 AM #8
All tren is from a UGL there is no such thing as pharmaceutical Tren. Find a reputable source and go with tren a
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07-19-2018, 11:02 AM #9Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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You need to spend more time on research and education before tren is in your vocabulary
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07-19-2018, 11:42 AM #10Associate Member
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I think that most tren ace is underdosed slightly or bunk. I can't get legit acetate right now.
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07-19-2018, 02:22 PM #12
Am I reading correctly that you're 20 years old and you've already been blasting with Test 500? Now you want to run Tren ?
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07-19-2018, 02:45 PM #13
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07-19-2018, 02:46 PM #14Associate Member
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I'm already on TRT so does it really matter.
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07-19-2018, 02:47 PM #15Associate Member
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Not able to orgasm?
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07-19-2018, 03:03 PM #16Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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Last edited by Windex; 07-19-2018 at 03:06 PM.
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07-19-2018, 03:59 PM #17
I agree I have never had a problem with underdosed tren that I know of if so I would hate to use the "good stuff"
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07-19-2018, 04:10 PM #18
If anything, Tren is the one thing that is easiest to get and find
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07-20-2018, 01:18 AM #19
In my opinion all long esters are useless.
I take deca with trt at low theraputic dose for my arthritis. Other than that, what is the point of a long ester from a bodybuilding standpoint?
You will have greater success with shorter esters and less down time between cycles or blasts.
Long esters deliver the same thing but take longer to deliver the same result and stay in your system longer when you cease.
Tren A is all you need.
The longer a person does this the more short esters will be what you use. I have ran my fair share of deca but now use npp for blast effect.
Not to mention the longer the ester is the lower the bioavailability of the actual drug/AAS is.
Long esters are for medical patients. Short esters are for bb's
Eq doesnt count because it is useless.
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07-20-2018, 06:50 AM #20
Exactly- to find good tren ace is like finding potato chips in a supermarket.
And alpha is right- the tren hex around now is based off the old parabolan from france and spain. But that hasnt been produced in 20 years.
So your legit tren hex is ugl. They dont make it otherwise anymore. So whatever issues ypu have with ugl applies to the hex as well.
Anyway- i would listen to these guys. Ive never run tren. Gonna run it first time when im cleared to get back to the gym. And ive run plenty of combos- but when it came to tren i had to ask these guys their opinion because its not something you just try and see how you like it- its a powerful drug not a cake recipe
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07-20-2018, 01:32 PM #21
Tren is amazing stuff. I just can't handle the sides very well.
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07-20-2018, 04:28 PM #22Associate Member
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It seems that way. I just pinned my first dose of Tren two nights ago (with Test and Mast) and I dropped 5 lbs overnight and feel super pumped and energetic AF. My workout was noticeable improved. Is it supposed to kick in this fast?
Not looking forward to the sides kicking in. As long as the acne stays under control, I think I can handle the insomnia and short-fuse.
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07-20-2018, 04:46 PM #23
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07-20-2018, 06:15 PM #27Associate Member
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Take a look at the lab tests on multiple tren ace products, most of them are slightly underdosed. Lol at long esters being less bioavailable, long esters work great. I will probably skip the tren because of already sweating too much and having insomnia. I plan on doing this:
August - 750 mg of test enanthate a week
September - 1000 mg of test e a week
October - 1250 mg of test e a week
November - 1500 mg of test e a week
December - 1750 mg of test e a week
I get zero sides on 500 mg of test e a week without using ai or serms. I will probably use the maximum amount of test without having to use ai.
Thoughts?
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07-20-2018, 06:21 PM #28
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07-20-2018, 06:25 PM #29
Pardon my French, but you're fucking dreaming.
1750 of test and no AI.
Shit 750 of test and no AI is bonkers.
Your going to have nothing but sides over 1g of test ( really after 750mg, in reality)
You instead of increasing test, just rotate different drugs each month.
Fwiw, that's not a good plan you have.
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07-20-2018, 06:43 PM #30
Here you smart little "lol" having mofo
I cant find my big chart I so love but here is a basis for you
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Its called pharmacokinetics. Look into it.
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07-20-2018, 06:53 PM #31
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07-21-2018, 05:53 AM #34Associate Member
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07-21-2018, 06:18 AM #35Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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You get told advice, get corrected by what wrong things you said, and some people have been running tren longer than you've been alive. Yet you have the nerve to argue and dismiss the advice from people who are trying to help you.
Explain to me why you think you have the maturity to be running anything
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07-21-2018, 07:09 AM #36Associate Member
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I don't have the maturity to run anything but i'm on TRT already so why not.
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07-21-2018, 08:23 AM #37
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07-21-2018, 12:32 PM #38
Look man, you are gonna do what you want. Running 1750mg of test a wk is a waste. If you have never cycled before, running 1g of test a wk is a waste. You will get much better results running a slight increase in your test and adding in another light dose compound. You will respond just fine.
No idea where you would get the idea to use that much test. And the idea that u may not need an ai isnt gonna work. And tossing in tren whenever you feel like isnt a good idea. But thats up to you. Good luck with that
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07-21-2018, 02:05 PM #39
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I will note, there were plenty Tren A 100 vials from other labs at around 85-ish mg.
But this can be said for all and every type of Tren and any other compounds as well
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07-21-2018, 02:41 PM #40Associate Member
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I've changed my mind about running high amounts of testosterone . I will try Primobolan .
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