Do I need Ai with Masteron

**Farhad.ganji** · 07-28-2018, 01:09 AM

For my second I have finally decided to go with 300mg test prop +300 mg of Masteron (8 weeks) for limiting gaining weight and water retention since I do boxing and crossfit and not controling my weight is disadvantage. and as far as I checked Masteron can act as Anti estrogen with that said Is it really necessary to take any AI during this cycle? I prefer to avoid taking anything extra.

Thanks

**Couchlockd** · 07-28-2018, 09:14 AM

Mast does not work as an anti estrogen.

It mildly competes with it, but a minimal amount of AI is needed.

I'd start with .25mg adex every 3.5 days

**Kyle1337** · 07-28-2018, 10:24 AM

Yes, an AI with literally all AAS is needed to some extent. Put T in... Get more E. Gotta counter it somehow.

**AlphaMindz** · 07-28-2018, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

For my second I have finally decided to go with 300mg test prop +300 mg of Masteron (8 weeks) for limiting gaining weight and water retention since I do boxing and crossfit and not controling my weight is disadvantage. and as far as I checked Masteron can act as Anti estrogen with that said Is it really necessary to take any AI during this cycle? I prefer to avoid taking anything extra.

Thanks

I would always run an AI with test because I've had issues with gyno, especially with prop cause it spikes so quickly that it aromatizes quickly as well. To each their own but I wouldn't recommend it. Since masteron does have anti-estrogenic properties you may get away with taking less of your AI than usual but I would take at least the dose couch suggested ti start and see how you feel. If you're noticing estrogenic sides than increase AI to .5mg e3d.

**kelkel** · 07-28-2018, 01:51 PM

8 weeks is a waste of time. Simply not long enough and not worth shutting yourself down for.

**Farhad.ganji** · 07-28-2018, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

Mast does not work as an anti estrogen.

It mildly competes with it, but a minimal amount of AI is needed.

I'd start with .25mg adex every 3.5 days

So do you think 6.25 aromasin ED will be enough?

**Farhad.ganji** · 07-28-2018, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

8 weeks is a waste of time. Simply not long enough and not worth shutting yourself down for.

The only reason I'm doing for 8 weeks is to limit gaining weight - My first cycle I have gained around 20 pounds which is not ideal for me but I guess some of them was just water since now I have dropped 5 pounds of it.

**Dannyboy51577** · 07-29-2018, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

The only reason I'm doing for 8 weeks is to limit gaining weight - My first cycle I have gained around 20 pounds which is not ideal for me but I guess some of them was just water since now I have dropped 5 pounds of it.

What did u run your first cycle and how long to gain 20 lbs?

Like kel said i wks is kind of a waste, you arent going to get any significant gains or hold onto anything on such a short time period.

**kelkel** · 07-29-2018, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

The only reason I'm doing for 8 weeks is to limit gaining weight - My first cycle I have gained around 20 pounds which is not ideal for me but I guess some of them was just water since now I have dropped 5 pounds of it.

Then control your diet.

**Windex** · 07-29-2018, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

The only reason I'm doing for 8 weeks is to limit gaining weight - My first cycle I have gained around 20 pounds which is not ideal for me but I guess some of them was just water since now I have dropped 5 pounds of it.

Sounds like you don't know how to eat or are not in control of your nutrition so you fear bodyfat.

**Ashop** · 07-29-2018, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

For my second I have finally decided to go with 300mg test prop +300 mg of Masteron (8 weeks) for limiting gaining weight and water retention since I do boxing and crossfit and not controling my weight is disadvantage. and as far as I checked Masteron can act as Anti estrogen with that said Is it really necessary to take any AI during this cycle? I prefer to avoid taking anything extra.

Thanks

It works as a MILD anti E at best. Since your using some TEST PROP too I would definitely use an AI.

**Farhad.ganji** · 07-31-2018, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

Sounds like you don't know how to eat or are not in control of your nutrition so you fear bodyfat.

The only reason that I would like to limit it is I'm doing boxing and do not want to jump between weight classes. My current body fat is 7.9 so surely my diet is under control.

**Farhad.ganji** · 07-31-2018, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Dannyboy51577

What did u run your first cycle and how long to gain 20 lbs?

Like kel said i wks is kind of a waste, you arent going to get any significant gains or hold onto anything on such a short time period.

For my first cycle I run 350 Mg Test E for 10 weeks + HGH@5iu + HCG druing cycle

**Dannyboy51577** · 07-31-2018, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

For my first cycle I run 350 Mg Test E for 10 weeks + HGH@5iu + HCG druing cycle

Were you using an ai? Or maybe taking in a ton of calories? Just trying to get an idea of how you put on 20lbs, especially since it sounds like you are saying alot of it was water. I would guess in 8 or 10 or 12 wks you put on a couple lbs of muscle but not 20 or even 15. Not sure how you put on that much weight on 300mg of test alone when you are 8%bf, to help you avoid that this time around.

**Farhad.ganji** · 08-01-2018, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Dannyboy51577

Were you using an ai? Or maybe taking in a ton of calories? Just trying to get an idea of how you put on 20lbs, especially since it sounds like you are saying alot of it was water. I would guess in 8 or 10 or 12 wks you put on a couple lbs of muscle but not 20 or even 15. Not sure how you put on that much weight on 300mg of test alone when you are 8%bf, to help you avoid that this time around.

Yes, I was taking 6.25 aromasin ED - HCG @ 500 iu/week - My calorie intake was high - After my pct I have dropped 5 pounds which I guess was water retention -by the way; during cycle my nose looks really bigger than usual and don't know if it relates to water retention or not.