My 4th cycle

[mrthai]

Ive done 4 cycles now last 2 years.

From:
Test p 10/w + dbol50mg/d/6week
Primo 1000mg/w 12week
Test p 500mg/w + mast 500mg/w + primo 800mg/w 12week
Test p 500mg/W Tren A 600mg/w 10week

(use aromasin 12.5mg /day for most cycles)
Run pct after cycles with Nolva and clomid, 40/40/20/20 100/100/50/50 and continue use aromasin into pct.

Im 102kg and 193 cm bodyfat is around 13%

Had gyno after 1 cycle, but I had it removed an rumned 3 cycles successfully after that, so im littlebit concerned about putting dbol in to cycles again.
Have had no sides to speak of during my cycles, except from the gyno.

I have Dbol and Winstrol on hand so will be great to put them in here for use.
Im not sure if im going to run short or long acting esters.... guess it will be not so big difference?
I read alot about dosaging the Tren higher then the Test, because of its fighiting for the same receptors, any toughts here?

My goal is to get stronger and harder, if i gain some size its no problem but its not my main goal.

If someone have some comments, suggestions, or anything to come with, i will appreciate it!


This is what im thinking on:

1-4 Dbol 50mg/day or Anavar 60mg/day (kickstarter)
1-11 Tren E 600mg/week
1-12 Test E 500mg/week
3-12 Mast E 600mg/week
7-12 Winstrol 50mg/day (injectable)

Or:

1-12 Tren A 80mg/day
1-12 Test P 60mg/day
1-12 Mast P 100mg/day
7-12 Winstrol 50mg/day (injectable)

[mrthai]

My 5th cycle was supposed to be the HEADLINE

[Mr. Small]

That is a lot of Tren dude

[mrthai]

Iknow, but i had no sides to speak of on my last cycle with this dosage. Tren A(80mg / day) for 10 weeks.
Only got some night sweats and nightmares.

[Mr. Small]

Iknow, but i had no sides to speak of on my last cycle with this dosage. Tren A(80mg / day) for 10 weeks.
Only got some night sweats and nightmares.

Lucky you, I haven't taken that much, but I don't get any sides either. You would probably be fine on 300mg of Tren per week.

[cousinmuscles]

Iknow, but i had no sides to speak of on my last cycle with this dosage. Tren A(80mg / day) for 10 weeks.
Only got some night sweats and nightmares.

That's almost 2g of gear, have you done bloods on your previous cycles? Can you post up the attachments of your lipid profile after your last tren cycle?

Two orals plus tren plus mast, sounds like you are disappointed with what your cycles have given you and are just adding a large dose each cycle. Why not look over your diet and training, no need to wreck your health for some gains. To gain strength you need to train for it, to lose fat you need a proper cutting diet. You can gain strength with a test only cycle at half a gram. The conditioning effects of orals are temporary. Just telling you this for your own good...

[HDThunder]

That is a lot of Tren E. Just be aware you will deal with any bad sides you get for a few weeks. The E ester takes a long time to clear your system. I had bad sides (insomnia, anxiety, paranoia) for two weeks after dropping Tren E and lingering anxiety and night time waking issues for three weeks plus. Just now getting back to "normal".