Pitting Edema

**JayReaper** · 07-30-2018, 07:28 PM

Sorry for posting twice in 1 night but i have a few different questions.... I'm 3 weeks into my first cycle and i've been noticing a new symptom after i pin. Whenever i inject my glutes, the upper side of my thigh gets squishy and spongy for a few days afterwards. Only noticed it with the last 2 injections but maybe its been happening all along. Can push my finger into my skin and it leaves an indentation. It's a sign of infection so that worries me a bit but i havent run a fever over 99 since i started my cycle 3 weeks ago. Slight redness though.

My gear is a year old btw and it's UGL. 300mg/ml Test E only. Got it when i just turned 24 and decided to wait til i was 25.

Is this a normal reaction? Could i be going in subq? Is this just the oil not being absorbed right away? Sterile abcess? Cellulitus?

I get pretty serious PIP as well and swelling.

I really want to finish my cycle but this shit seems to get worse every time.

**Couchlockd** · 07-30-2018, 08:17 PM

What lab?

**JayReaper** · 07-30-2018, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

What lab?

Says Westward Pharmeceuticals on the vial but the website was called Gear University. It no longer exists, not sure why. His stuff had the highest score reviews on eroids at the time which i don't think means anything now in retrospect.

I'm holding off on my next pin until i feel confident that this is nothing to be concerned about.

**10nispro** · 07-30-2018, 10:19 PM

You need to stop the cycle

**JayReaper** · 07-31-2018, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by 10nispro

You need to stop the cycle

Can you explain why?

It's already gotten better

**10nispro** · 07-31-2018, 05:17 AM

Your gear sounds fine. My insistance on stopping the cycle is in regards to the questions you asked.

If you did research correctly, then you would know of you pinned subq or not. It's not cellulitis or sterile because you say it's going away and coming back, in correlation with the pinning.

I saw your age, but didn't see you height, weight, bf%, lifting hx. Let me know these things and it could help with me agreeing to this cycle. It's your health you are playing around with.

**guitarzan** · 07-31-2018, 05:41 AM

Pip seems to be a regular thing with people taking taking 300 mg test

**guitarzan** · 07-31-2018, 05:42 AM

Btw, what size needle you using

**guitarzan** · 07-31-2018, 06:21 AM

Nevermind, I see on your other post 1.5", theres no way you're subq with that, unless you only pushing it in a third the way or less

**JayReaper** · 07-31-2018, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by 10nispro

If you did research correctly, then you would know of you pinned subq or not. It's not cellulitis or sterile because you say it's going away and coming back, in correlation with the pinning.

I saw your age, but didn't see you height, weight, bf%, lifting hx. Let me know these things and it could help with me agreeing to this cycle. It's your health you are playing around with.

I know what all of these things are supposed to feel like but reading about them and experiencing them are different animals, as everyone's body reacts differently.

I am 6'2
215lbs
About 13% BF
I started lifting when i was 16 but got more serious about 4-5 years ago. I am not trying to be a professional bodybuilder, I am doing this mainly for strength gains. I eat clean for the most part especially during the week. 8-10% BF would be perfect to me but if i want to eat a pizza, i eat a pizza

**Windex** · 07-31-2018, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by JayReaper

I know what all of these things are supposed to feel like but reading about them and experiencing them are different animals, as everyone's body reacts differently.

I am 6'2
215lbs
About 13% BF
I started lifting when i was 16 but got more serious about 4-5 years ago. I am not trying to be a professional bodybuilder, I am doing this mainly for strength gains. I eat clean for the most part especially during the week. 8-10% BF would be perfect to me but if i want to eat a pizza, i eat a pizza

You won't get to 8% body fat with that pizza mentality

**JayReaper** · 07-31-2018, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

You won't get to 8% body fat with that pizza mentality

I'm fine with that. My current BF is healthy and i like the way I look. More concerned with strength and size. I don't compete.

**Windex** · 07-31-2018, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by JayReaper

I'm fine with that. My current BF is healthy and i like the way I look. More concerned with strength and size. I don't compete.

Whether or not you compete is irrelevant. The mentality of I'm not going to be a professional bodybuilder therefore I can justify cutting corners is silly. 99% of gym people will not compete or get their pro card

There is nothing wrong with eating pizza as a cheat meal or making a healthy version of it. But to say i'll eat whatever whenever just means your body is in control of you instead of you being in control of your body. Eating clean most of the time = results some of the time.

Why have a goal that you are content with not achieving? You state 8-10% is perfect but you are settling for being 13%. Defeats the whole purpose of being motivated and having goals.

Seems like your priorities aren't straight. Don't think steroids are the right pathway.

**JayReaper** · 07-31-2018, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

Whether or not you compete is irrelevant.

Why have a goal that you are content with not achieving? You state 8-10% is perfect but you are settling for being 13%. Defeats the whole purpose of being motivated and having goals.

Seems like your priorities aren't straight. Don't think steroids are the right pathway.

My priorities are just fine. To be honest i have no idea what my BF%. Took a guess. Never cared. I see my accomplishments in the mirror and in the gym and i'm happy with the way i look. I can see all of my abs. I want to be stronger. If i can maintain the definition i have now that would be great.

**Quester** · 07-31-2018, 11:29 PM

Lets us know how it goes and if you figure out what it was. Of course, makes sure your sanitizing the top of the vial before drawing, your skin before pinning and a different needle and syringe every time. Good luck