Least problematic steroid to add to TRT plan?

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08-01-2018, 03:19 PM
Test Monsterone

Least problematic steroid to add to TRT plan?

I am about to buy my first round of hormones and ancillaries.

Basic weekly TRT:

150 mg of testosterone Cypionate/enanthate
500 IU HCG.

I want to run some very mild cycles here and there once I have everything dialed in. I want to try my best and avoid increasing my blood pressure. Here is what I'm thinking of adding weekly (not all at once):

Sustanon 200 mg
Or
Primobolan 200 mg
Or
Boldenone 200 mg

And

Arimidex

I especially want to use these compounds while cutting. Want to lose about 15 lbs. Again, I'm not looking for huge gains, I'm more concerned with remaining healthy in regards to blood pressure, lipids, and effect on prostate. Any thoughts? Pluses or minuses?
08-01-2018, 03:42 PM
Windex

Boldenone is useless, especially at that dose. Sustanon is just more test and you are cycling at that point. If you are concerned with health then adding 200mg of Test is opposite because its going to raise your blood pressure, RBC, and hematocrit.

Good luck trying to find real Primobolan.

Also, your other threads indicate you are just starting TRT.

https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...rt-clinic.html

and

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rt-clinic.html

You need to get that dialed in before adding on other compounds. It takes several months and even up to a year before a TRT protocol is dialed in. Adding compounds early just puts your health at risk and delays the whole process. There's no point to buying anything now outside of TRT until you have your program locked in.

If you want to lose 15lbs that will come from nutrition, training, and cardio.
08-01-2018, 03:50 PM
Couchlockd

It's 2018. Real primo is easy to find.

Primo or mast at 200mg would be least problematic to add.

Or low dose var (10mg) or Winny (5mg)
08-01-2018, 04:08 PM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

It's 2018. Real primo is easy to find.

Primo or mast at 200mg would be least problematic to add.

Or low dose var (10mg) or Winny (5mg)

Perhaps the North ("Winter is coming") is different. Faked here somewhat often.
08-01-2018, 07:06 PM
Test Monsterone

I'll hold off on adding anything for at least 4 months, but I wanted to grab something since I'm getting it from overseas. Don't want to have to order again and again and wait a month for it to get here, if it even gets here.
08-01-2018, 07:12 PM
HoldMyBeer

isnt 350 a little high for trt? Its seems to be too high for trt and too low for a cycle.... Someone correct me here!
08-01-2018, 07:29 PM
Test Monsterone

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

isnt 350 a little high for trt? Its seems to be too high for trt and too low for a cycle.... Someone correct me here!

Like I said, I'm doing 150 for trt, and once my levels are in check, I'll do some "blasts" at 350-400. Just wanted to see what is recommended to keep BP in check.
08-01-2018, 07:35 PM
< <Samson> >

Throw in like 25mg a day of Var
08-01-2018, 07:51 PM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

I'll hold off on adding anything for at least 4 months, but I wanted to grab something since I'm getting it from overseas. Don't want to have to order again and again and wait a month for it to get here, if it even gets here.

If you are in North America there is no reason to buy overseas.
08-01-2018, 08:48 PM
Test Monsterone

Quote:

Originally Posted by < >

Throw in like 25mg a day of Var

Any reasons for this? My ALT was a little elevated last time I checked at 47 (0-40). My friend likes anavar, but he's afraid to pin so he sticks to var and SARMS (lol).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex

If you are in North America there is no reason to buy overseas.

The sites I'm looking at have some domestic stuff but it's all UGL stuff with no labels most of the time. The stuff I want to get is pharma grade - or at least it appears that way.
08-01-2018, 09:09 PM
Test Monsterone

What about SARMS? I know they're supposedly not nearly as strong as AAS, but given that I don't want massive gains anyway, would they be the ticket? They are said to have no side effects associated with steroids, other than suppression. Any of you tried them?
08-01-2018, 09:53 PM
Coffeehead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex

If you are in North America there is no reason to buy overseas.

Curious to why you say this? Ive been doing a lot of overseas purchases - had a domestic supplier (main warehouse was Europe) but it recently closed down.
08-02-2018, 04:11 AM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

Any reasons for this? My ALT was a little elevated last time I checked at 47 (0-40). My friend likes anavar, but he's afraid to pin so he sticks to var and SARMS (lol).

The sites I'm looking at have some domestic stuff but it's all UGL stuff with no labels most of the time. The stuff I want to get is pharma grade - or at least it appears that way.

Mistake #1 ordering from a website. Pharma grade is available within North America. And if you aren't very fluent in pharmagrade and what to look for high chance of buying fake pharma grade internationally. Was a thread on here just the other week about a high who ordered internationally and got fake pharmagrade test.

Not being able to get pharmagrade test in North America means you aren't doing a good enough job researching and sourcing, simple as that.

SARMs are a crap shoot, low benefit, a lot are snake oil, no way to validate if they are working especially while on gear. Its the Prohormone trend of 2018 - completely useless imo.
08-02-2018, 04:16 AM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

I'll hold off on adding anything for at least 4 months, but I wanted to grab something since I'm getting it from overseas. Don't want to have to order again and again and wait a month for it to get here, if it even gets here.

It might take 3 months, maybe 6, maybe 12 - you should really throw the idea of a timeline out the window because it's impossible to know ahead of time how long it will take before everything is stable. Going into this with a cycle plan before your TRT is dialed in is setting yourself up for failure.
08-02-2018, 06:20 AM
Test Monsterone

I wish I knew how to get domestic pharma. Any hints? The pharma I’m looking at is Balkan stuff or Indian which, if I was going to fake, I’d pick something a little better. But who knows.

One of the sites I’m looking at has fake Arimidex I believe. Has to be when the package has grammatical errors in the pic lol... “28 Tablet in Foil.” still costs $60+ for 28 pills.
08-02-2018, 06:38 AM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

I wish I knew how to get domestic pharma. Any hints? The pharma I’m looking at is Balkan stuff or Indian which, if I was going to fake, I’d pick something a little better. But who knows.

One of the sites I’m looking at has fake Arimidex I believe. Has to be when the package has grammatical errors in the pic lol... “28 Tablet in Foil.” still costs $60+ for 28 pills.

Your just setting yourself up for failure and disappointment with that approach.
08-02-2018, 08:45 AM
kelkel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone

I am about to buy my first round of hormones and ancillaries.

Basic weekly TRT:

150 mg of testosterone Cypionate/enanthate
500 IU HCG.

If you are starting a legitimately needed TRT protocol then by simply optimizing your hormones it should make a noticeable difference for you, assuming your nutrition and training are on point. Most guys fail in the nutrition department by basically not eating enough.