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    Tren A vs Tren E

    I’ve been using Tren Ace without any problems. Always get great results. I’ve never used Tren E.
    I would think the only difference between A and E is the ester, but I’ve heard Tren E does not give as good gains as Tren A. Not sure why that would be the case. Can someone who has used both let me know if this is true. I like using A but pinning all the time is annoying after a while. I was thinking about it though, and if I’m gonna run 600 to 700 per week of Tren E then I’m still gonna have to pin 2 or 3 times per week just because I can’t put that much volume into one spot.
    Let me know what you guys think.

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    It's the same compound, different esters

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boner View Post
    I’ve been using Tren Ace without any problems. Always get great results. I’ve never used Tren E.
    I would think the only difference between A and E is the ester, but I’ve heard Tren E does not give as good gains as Tren A. Not sure why that would be the case. Can someone who has used both let me know if this is true. I like using A but pinning all the time is annoying after a while. I was thinking about it though, and if I’m gonna run 600 to 700 per week of Tren E then I’m still gonna have to pin 2 or 3 times per week just because I can’t put that much volume into one spot.
    Let me know what you guys think.
    I run both, dont think theres much difference in gains. You should be able to easily get 600-700 mg in two shots a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    I run both, dont think theres much difference in gains. You should be able to easily get 600-700 mg in two shots a week.
    The pins I use are 3ml. I was told not to inject more than 3ml into one place at a time. Anything over 600 would require a 3rd injection. 600 per week is probably enough anyway. That would make one less injection per week. Not sure if that’s worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boner View Post
    The pins I use are 3ml. I was told not to inject more than 3ml into one place at a time. Anything over 600 would require a 3rd injection. 600 per week is probably enough anyway. That would make one less injection per week. Not sure if that’s worth it.
    Tren e is 200 mg per ml, so you can get 600 in one pin

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Tren e is 200 mg per ml, so you can get 600 in one pin
    Yeah, I’ve seen 200/ml out there and that makes sense. The brand I usually use only comes 100/ml for Tren E. I hate trying new brands because I don’t trust them to be dosed right. I’ll have to check and get some feedback on a brand that comes 200/ml. Maybe I can switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    It's the same compound, different esters
    Exactly! The end results should be very similar.

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    If you have never run 700mg of Tren before I would choose Tren Ace and pin 100mg ED. The advantage to Ace is if side effects get out of control it's a lot easier to manage due to a shorter half life. Enth just gives you the convienence to pin less often. Also, because Tren E is often dosed at 200/250mg/mL whereas the common dose of Tren Ace is 100mg/mL, Tren E tends to be a lot less expensive.

    From my personal experience, 700mg of Tren is a completely different animal than 4-500mg of tren. Keep in mind that Tren has an anabolic rating of 5:1 compared to Test so a higher dose is exponential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    If you have never run 700mg of Tren before I would choose Tren Ace and pin 100mg ED. The advantage to Ace is if side effects get out of control it's a lot easier to manage due to a shorter half life. Enth just gives you the convienence to pin less often. Also, because Tren E is often dosed at 200/250mg/mL whereas the common dose of Tren Ace is 100mg/mL, Tren E tends to be a lot less expensive.

    From my personal experience, 700mg of Tren is a completely different animal than 4-500mg of tren. Keep in mind that Tren has an anabolic rating of 5:1 compared to Test so a higher dose is exponential.
    I agree about 700 Tren. Last year I ran 350 per week. Got good results but nothing like this go round. This summer and currently I’m running 700 per week. Pinning 1ml per day. It’s been a lot different. Not sure I want to do much more than that. Pinning daily is no fun. Also doing 400 test E , 400 EQ amd 400 masteron per week. I’m a dang pin cushion but I’m extremely lean and feel like a monster. It’s been great.

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    400mg of EQ doesn't do anything, beyond the fact that it's useless unless your racing horses. Plus even if it was half decent it would be completely shadowed by the rest of your compounds.

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    I stole this from another board (not exactly webMD), but I would assume it would be something related to this:

    Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
    Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
    Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
    Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg

    This is test, but I would assume it is the same. Different esters have different weight, therefore you are actually getting different amounts of Tren depending on the ester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    I stole this from another board (not exactly webMD), but I would assume it would be something related to this:

    Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
    Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
    Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
    Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg

    This is test, but I would assume it is the same. Different esters have different weight, therefore you are actually getting different amounts of Tren depending on the ester.
    If I remember correctly, Acetate weight is 17mg and Enth is 30mg. difference of 13mg, so pretty negligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    400mg of EQ doesn't do anything, beyond the fact that it's useless unless your racing horses. Plus even if it was half decent it would be completely shadowed by the rest of your compounds.
    I’m aware of the negligible effects of EQ. A friend of mine asked me to get him some. I had to buy 10 bottles to get a decent price. Then he backed out and didn’t want it. I should’ve got money up front. Now I’m sitting on 10 bottles so I decided to just use some since I got it. However, I do think EQ has helped with the negative effects Tren has on my cardio. Before adding EQ I couldn’t catch my breath during workouts. Now it’s not so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    If I remember correctly, Acetate weight is 17mg and Enth is 30mg. difference of 13mg, so pretty negligible.

    That’s 13% more Tren per ml. When doing 700 per week that’s 91mg more Tren per week. That’s an extra 1ml injection every week. It could make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boner View Post
    That’s 13% more Tren per ml. When doing 700 per week that’s 91mg more Tren per week. That’s an extra 1ml injection every week. It could make a difference.
    Tren E is going to be 200 or 250mg per mL so less 30mg is 170 or 220. You would be correct if they were both dosed at 100mg/mL

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    That makes sense. In that case the longer ester weighs less per ML. Seems like it would weigh more.
    Wait, I said that wrong. The longer ester weighs less per 100mg. If that’s accurate
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    Hi! I’m new to this site, been scrolling through for months though researching Tren Ace..I ended up losing my source a couple weeks back, anyone know where I can get some first hand instead of going through somebody and their cousin’s cousin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berto1294 View Post
    Hi! I’m new to this site, been scrolling through for months though researching Tren Ace..I ended up losing my source a couple weeks back, anyone know where I can get some first hand instead of going through somebody and their cousin’s cousin?
    This isn't a source board so openly asking that question is an open invitation for someone to scam you and steal your money. Read the sticky thread on how not to get scammed. Buying illegal steroids [from a complete stranger[/B] is not as easy as just walking into a supermarket and buying a bag of apples. You need to spend time researching and make friends.

    In the future, if you have general questions you should make a new thread.
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    I do not see much of a difference in Tren A vs Tren E. I will run both to start and then go to just tren E and when I am coming off back to tren A. If your a fine with the sides from tren then the difference between the two is just time in your system

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    I've run both and I prefer Tren A. I'm in/out of the cycle faster and I would rather deal with the sides for a shorter duration of time.

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    Ace is a little bit stronger. Theres a little bit more bioavailability with the acetate ester. Tren E still does the job tho.

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