Wtf .What is the purpose of a test base?

**1am** · 08-17-2018, 03:33 PM

I keep reading this shit but i still dont get it, what is so special about testosterone vs all the other compounds ? seeing that all steroids are just testosterone with different molecules attached to them ?

If i just want to be stronger and fuck better whats wrong with just taking a DHT steroid like masteron ,primo ,anavar ,winstrol ?

What exactly does something like Test C give you to make you function optimally that above DHT base steroids do not ? (Other than increase estrogen)

**hollowedzeus** · 08-17-2018, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by 1am

I keep reading this shit but i still dont get it, what is so special about testosterone vs all the other compounds ? seeing that all steroids are just testosterone with different molecules attached to them ?

If i just want to be stronger and fuck better whats wrong with just taking a DHT steroid like masteron ,primo ,anavar ,winstrol ?

What exactly does something like Test C give you to make you function optimally that above DHT base steroids do not ? (Other than increase estrogen)

Your body doesn't recognise winny, mast or anything other than test to be molecularly similar enough to function as test does in your body. Therefore you have no test without running any due to shutting down your own

**almostgone** · 08-17-2018, 03:40 PM

Because AAS will suppress your natural production of testosterone , therefore it needs to be replaced.

**cousinmuscles** · 08-17-2018, 04:38 PM

Testosterones anabolic effects are caused by it binding to the androgen receptor, once it does this it activates genes to upregulate protein synthesis, increasing nitrogen retention, minimizing catabolism and more. Most DHT based drugs don't bind so well and only exert some effects. Primobolan acts as testosterone though not DHT. You can't all classify them easily but e.g. anadrol and dianabol without testosterone will only give a temporary performance boost and some water retention but no keepable gains.

You won't go so far without any testosterone in you. Your body is already made as it is and you are constantly dependent on air, water, food... The list goes on. Your cells are made to receive the proper signalling to function as they were made to. To start, your dick won't work. That should make you understand

**Wyatt 88** · 08-17-2018, 07:53 PM

I think the question he was asking was more along the lines what's the difference between test base as opposed to test cypionate , test propionate , test enanthate etc.

Actually after rereading the post I think I'm wrong. Sorry

**Couchlockd** · 08-17-2018, 09:23 PM

Test base as building block of cycle or TestNoEster?

**almostgone** · 08-17-2018, 10:28 PM

Think he is referring to test as the base compound in a cycle? That's what I got from his post.

**< <Samson> >** · 08-18-2018, 07:24 AM

The point is - u r a dude. . . Dude = testosterone

**Amuuzen** · 08-18-2018, 10:05 AM

I think Cousinmuscles got it right, but my take is OP just wants to take one thing (apparently a DHT-based compound) to get results. What does Testosterone do: A lot. A DHT-based compound won't mimic all the these needs (anabolic or androgenic ) but will stop your body from producing testosterone, hence you will eventually be lacking in all the areas your body needs testosterone, meaning you will need to supplement (at least, depending on your goals) your body's natural production of testosterone because it will be stopped by the DHT compound (all AAS? most likely).

Just my $0.02 attempt.

**Eduke93** · 08-18-2018, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

The point is - u r a dude. . . Dude = testosterone

Amen ^^

You need testosterone for your body to function normally my friend. Other compounds will suppress your normal function = feel shit. You don’t have to blast it just need a decent base for a cycle e.g 250mg.

**Arcânn** · 08-18-2018, 06:25 PM

The best way I can explain this:

All compounds other than test are similar enough to test that it basically tricks your body into thinking that it has a shit ton of test, which causes your body to stop producing it. But it's not similar enough to test to actually perform most of the functions of real testosterone . So your body stops producing test while not having any test to being with, so your test is effectively 0. The only way to counter that is to take test as a base during your cycle.

**Obs** · 08-18-2018, 07:23 PM

Chrrliiist - Chibs (SOA)

**Farhad.ganji** · 08-19-2018, 11:21 PM

What if we use HCG instead of Test on cycle to boost test levels?

**marcus300** · 08-20-2018, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

What if we use HCG instead of Test on cycle to boost test levels?

Why?
Can't believe how many people are in the mind set 9f low T during cycling lol.
Do you know what T does? Produces serious size so contain sides and use what works.

I never go low T on any kind of cycle because T makes me grow so i wouldn't be restricting it in my case

**Farhad.ganji** · 08-20-2018, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Why?
Can't believe how many people are in the mind set 9f low T during cycling lol.
Do you know what T does? Produces serious size so contain sides and use what works.

I never go low T on any kind of cycle because T makes me grow so i wouldn't be restricting it in my case

The reason I asked HCG instead of T is exactly for limiting gaining size cause size only matters to bodybuilders and disadvantage for other sports.

**cousinmuscles** · 08-20-2018, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

The reason I asked HCG instead of T is exactly for limiting gaining size cause size only matters to bodybuilders and disadvantage for other sports.

You have gotten an explanation for that a dozen times mate, either way good luck with your goals, seems nobody here can help...

**ghettoboyd** · 08-20-2018, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji

The reason I asked HCG instead of T is exactly for limiting gaining size cause size only matters to bodybuilders and disadvantage for other sports.

it doesn’t work like that man just because you take test dose not mean you will blow up in size at all, that again is the reasult of your diet...once again it is taken on cycle to replace what is lost when taking any aas...

**Farhad.ganji** · 08-21-2018, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by cousinmuscles

You have gotten an explanation for that a dozen times mate, either way good luck with your goals, seems nobody here can help...

This is not my thread, just giving my opinion on this thread. By the way I don’t have any plan to run any cycle cause I got my blood test and it seems some of my kidney functions is not in normal range.

**Mma67** · 08-23-2018, 12:31 PM

You also need test to convert to estrogen. Test is cheap and it makes you feel great, why not take it?

Don’t be lazy, the only simple cycle would be a test only cycle. If you want to take any other anabolic you still need test because your natural test production will be suppressed.