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    Any benefit to pinning test E/C more frequently given dose remains constant.

    From my understanding with trt type doses many folks have implied that smaller more frequent injections of test enanthate /cypionate appears to provide a more stable effect and helps to mitigate estrogen related sides which can often allow for no AI requirement.

    Now can this same methodology of thinking be applied to a first cycle like the one layed out on this forum of running just 500mg of test e/c weekly? What would be the drawbacks (other than the inconvenience) of pinning the 500mg weekly broken down to EOD injections of say 150mg (to be exact 142.8mg). The only downside I can think of is that it would take a little longer for full concentration effects but that doesn't seem as though it would be much impacted. Thoughts?

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    Can still do it frequently. Below is a graph showing 12 week cycle with ED injections of Test E

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Can still do it frequently. Below is a graph showing 12 week cycle with ED injections of Test E

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    Thank you windex, I have looked at similar graph/calculators online as these are helpful to visualize the dosing changes.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear in my original post I am by no means implying that merely dosing the long esters more often would then allow to run cycle without an AI. I was just wondering if the more frequent dosing might allow to runner possibly a lower amount of an AI and allow any other benefits? I also understand everyone is different and labs are the only way to tell what a particular person may need but just wondering about the overall possibilities of the frequent dosing I have mentioned.


    Thank you

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    I like to dose Test-e eod when blasting. When cruising it's nice to take a break from constant injections and I'll just do one per week. In theory, it def helps keep blood levels more stable when dosing more frequently, but in the grand scheme of things I don't think it makes that much of a difference.

    Doctors commonly give patients ONE shot of cypionate 100-200mg every 7-10 days. But they also prescribe adex and hcg with it to control estrogen and keep testes functioning which helps mitigate issues from slightly fluctuating levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    I like to dose Test-e eod when blasting. When cruising it's nice to take a break from constant injections and I'll just do one per week. In theory, it def helps keep blood levels more stable when dosing more frequently, but in the grand scheme of things I don't think it makes that much of a difference.

    Doctors commonly give patients ONE shot of cypionate 100-200mg every 7-10 days. But they also prescribe adex and hcg with it to control estrogen and keep testes functioning which helps mitigate issues from slightly fluctuating levels.
    Excellent thank you for the input AlphaM!
    Glad to see that pinning test E eod does work good. I know it's not the norm for the longer ester but like mentioned previously only downside to the eod pin is that it will take a bit longer for levels to rise overall.

    Thank you

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    Pinning E or C daily gives more stable levels than Prop daily

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    Tried EOD shots myself with enanthate in my last cycle, made no difference.

    If you're injecting 250mg each time (about 200mg pure test) it doesn't matter since the peak curve lasts 3 days:



    If you have been injecting for a while and it has built up then the breakdown of the ester is even slower. The larger the dose injected the slower the release. From my experience with blood work, the longer time you have been injecting the longer it takes for it to leave your body.

    To compare, halve the dose and suddenly you don't have such a long lasting peak curve:


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