Just did my first shot ever, what an adventure.

Yesterday the mailman delivered the goods, and then today the other mailman delivered the tools (syringes, alcohol wipes, more syringes, bac water).

I don't know where to begin.

All my Test C came in 1 ml ampules, which I wanted to transfer to an empty vial. I forgot to order empty vials, but my HCG mix kit came with 2 empty 10 ml vials, so I got a 10 ml syringe, put on an 18g 1.5" needle and went and tried to pop open my first ampule. Dude wtf, I almost had to go to the hospital I cut my thumb so bad. Blood everywhere, pieces of glass everywhere. Oil everywhere.

After I get my bleeding under control, I use a clean T-shirt to open the rest of the ampules. Lined them all up nicely. Some open very easily, some just don't want to open and I'm not doing anything differently for any of them. Weird...

After I get all of the amps opened, I use the 10 ml syringe to pull 10 ml of air from the empty vial to make room for the oil. Then I clumsily got the oil in the syringe, tried pushing the air out, but some oil still squirted out even though I was holding the syringe needle up. I must have wasted .1 ml or something in all.

Finally after getting all the oil into the 10 ml vial, I grab a 1 ml insulin syringe and a 5/8" 25 guage needle. This is where I'm shitting my pants. I go by the bathroom mirror and turn around and wipe the site injection with an alcohol wipe. I can't even reach around correctly (I'm not very flexible), my hand is shaking like crazy, and I drop the needle in the sink. So I take off the needle and put another one on. By this time the syringe is covered in oil and all the numbers and lines have melted off the syringe from the alcohol in the oil. I wipe the syringe off with a tissue.

I try to inject again but I just can't do it. For some reason the glutes scare the crap out of me. So then I decide to sit down in a chair and do my shoulder. I look up where to inject, wipe the area, and stick it in. I didn't feel anything going in at all. I tried to aspirate, but who knows if I did or did not. No blood came in the syringe. So I start to inject, and it actually goes in pretty easily (contrary to what a lot of people say about insulin needles). After I inject, I pull it out and I start to bleed. I put the alcohol pad on the spot and press gently. One of those little alcohol pads got about halfway soaked with blood (is this normal?). Got a bandaid and put it on the needle mark and it's not bleeding anymore.

BTW I inject just .3 ml of test cyp 250, which equals to about 75 mg. I want to do Mon - Thurs, but screw it, Friday is close enough.


So now I'm writing this with a table covered in tissues with blood, needles, syringes, opened boxes, just chaos. Did I do it right? Was bleeding upon pulling out the needle normal? At first I got worried because I thought crap mayble 5/8" is too short and I hit a vein or something. What if I did inject into a vein, would it be real bad? I haven't moved my left arm since pinning like I'm afraid something is going to blow up lol. Maybe I'm being a little too dramatic, but this is a first for me...

Thoughts or suggestions on what I just typed?'


Almost forgot, there was tiny bubble of air in the insulin syringe that would not come out no matter what I did. Normal?

Pull plunger bout of 3ml barrel, use barrel to crack amp

Or use the wrapper from alcohol pas to snap neck off

Well, thank you for that informative, and very entertaining story. I could feel the nervousness while reading haha. I'll be starting my first cycle pretty soon myself. Currently, my plan is to pin in thighs and delts. Possibly lats, although that's a big maybe. I don't see how I can have enough control to safely inject in my glutes, especially on the left side. I think I need to practice on easier sites first, so I see what you mean with pinning the delts. Sounds like you went through a nightmare though.

Obviously I have no experience yet, but I've heard that bleeding can happen from time to time.

I've also heard that injecting into a vein is no big deal as far as safety/health goes, but from what I've heard, if you injected into a vein, you'd know it! The stories I've heard are pretty consistent...it seems like everyone who does it has a really bad coughing fit a few seconds later and they feel like they're going to die (if they don't know what's happening, they're honestly convinced they're about to actually die). I think I've heard a couple people say they felt like they had alcohol in/near their lungs as well, which doesn't sound pleasant. But it always seems to pass after a couple minutes or so...something like that. I've never heard of anyone dying from it, but I'm sure if you searched the internet heard enough.....All in all, you'll be okay (probably) if you inject a vein, but it'll fuck up your day a little bit

I certainly didn't feel like fucking with those ampules so I went with a secondary brand for test that had vials available.

Keep trying bro! You'll get it right with those injections.

There are videos that are sticky'd that show you how to inject properly. Bleeding happens. It's not a complicated process.

Sterilize
Inject
Repeat every 3.5 days until dead.

First time is always an adventure :)

5/8 seems pretty short for a IM injection
Just my opinion

Thoroughly enjoyed reading this! Yeah first couple times can be a doosy! Lol

Hey guys, an update. I couldn’t help myself and decided to try a very mild cycle to kick things off. So instead of my proposed 150 mg/week I am now doing 300 mg/week.

At this dose do you think Arimidex is even necessary. I’ve read online that some say you need it, some say you don’t at this low dose. I’ve read about the nightmares of having too low E. On the other hand if I don't take Adex and I start getting itchy nipples I dont have Nolvadex on hand and I read Adex takes a while to work.

I'm getting bloods at the 2 month mark. Planning on staying on 10 or 12 weeks.

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Hey guys, an update. I couldn’t help myself and decided to try a very mild cycle to kick things off. So instead of my proposed 150 mg/week I am now doing 300 mg/week.

At this dose do you think Arimidex is even necessary. I’ve read online that some say you need it, some say you don’t at this low dose. I’ve read about the nightmares of having too low E. On the other hand if I don't take Adex and I start getting itchy nipples I dont have Nolvadex on hand and I read Adex takes a while to work.

I'm getting bloods at the 2 month mark. Planning on staying on 10 or 12 weeks.

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You were told to have TRT dialed in before cycling and now you "couldn't help yourself" and didn't listen anyways. How can you be that mentally weak ? Do you buy the box of cookies every visit to the store because you also "can't help yourself"?

Why would someone waste their time helping you now if you don't listen to advice that was previously provided ?

You are the textbook case of why TRT gets a bad name from being abused.

You give advice to guys in their early 20s to cycle yet I can’t change my mind and do a cycle as a 32 year old adult? What’s wrong with trying to get shredded and lean before dialing it back to trt doses?

Sounds like you're kind of just winging it...

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You give advice to guys in their early 20s to cycle yet I can’t change my mind and do a cycle as a 32 year old adult? What’s wrong with trying to get shredded and lean before dialing it back to trt doses?

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Stick to one plan mate and follow through it. If you keep changing plans and can't make up your mind, you'll create your own maze in which you'll be lost, and will make it even more difficult for others to help you out. 300mg is too low for a cycle anyway. Put the AAS ideas on hold and find another thing to focus on and improve, there are always things you can improve be it nutrition or training apart from cycling.

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Stick to one plan mate and follow through it. If you keep changing plans and can't make up your mind, you'll create your own maze in which you'll be lost, and will make it even more difficult for others to help you out. 300mg is too low for a cycle anyway. Put the AAS ideas on hold and find another thing to focus on and improve, there are always things you can improve be it nutrition or training apart from cycling.

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Agreed, cycling is the last 5% of the equation.

In fact aas will make you look worse if diet and training aren't at a level to benefit from being enhanced.

I basically put it like this.

Steroids amplify whatever you do times 10. Great diet and on par training, you get 10x the results.

Poor diet, you get fatter 10x faster. You experience health issues, such as clogged arteries, Blood pressure, and risk of clots times 10

If your regimine of training and diet is perfect, you get 10 times more perfect.

If it's shitty, you get 10x more shitty.

Guys, I have been researching steroids for 15 years - no I don't know everything about them, but I knew not to mess with them all these years until I found out I have low T. I didn't just wake up on day and decide to do this. I went back and forth between doing a mild cycle or not the past month while waiting for the gear. I bought the sustanon for exactly this purpose (I just didn't know if I was going to start with a cycle or not). The same rules still apply.

Diet and training is obviously on point - especially while being on AAS. I have been training as a natural for 17 years - I'm no dummy :-)

Thanks for your concerns though, I'll be monitoring myself closely. I just want to get advice and suggestions/opinions - just like these "25" year olds that are really 17 that come on here get. Not trying to be irresponsible, this is my life though. If you wanna help, help, if not, don't.

BTW my friend has Nolvadex in case I need it. I am ordering some now.

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You give advice to guys in their early 20s to cycle yet I can’t change my mind and do a cycle as a 32 year old adult? What’s wrong with trying to get shredded and lean before dialing it back to trt doses?

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Show me one post where I knowingly provided steroid advice to someone under the age of 25 years old.

You can't tell me you invested 15 years in anabolic education then ask the most basic rookie questions. I don't mean to cause offence by saying that but 15 years of reading wouldn't equate to the questions you've asked so far.

I've said it before but i'll try one last time.

John Smith has low T

John Smoths endocrine system has been operating the last arbitrary # years with low T

John Smith decided to embark on TRT and begins at a typical treatment dose.

John Smiths endocrine system is now adjusting to hormone changes.

John Smiths cardiovascular system is now adjusting to the endocrine changes (hematocrit, blood pressure, RBC, etc).

John Smiths circulatory system is now adjusting to the cardiovascular changes.

John Smiths sleep (circadian rhythm, REM, etc( is now adjusting.

John Smiths mental state (mood, well being, etc) is now adjusting from all of the above.

Before adjustments are completed John Smith doubles his TRT.

John Smiths body is shocked and restarts the adjustment process of all of the above.

12 weeks later John Smith cuts his TRT in half and restarts the process.

Now John Smith has gone through two roller coasters and may suffer any consequences accordingly.

If you don't see a problem with the above example nobody can help you. Above that, Sustanon is garbage for cycling. It was originally used in TRT in European countries and has mostly been replaced to Nebido which is superior in every way. There is no circumstance where Sustanon makes sense for cycling. It requires pinning every other day, causes peaks and valleys because of the ester mix, and has a useless ratio of short:long esters per mL.



When I joined this forum I was given advice

- I didn't agree with
- I didn't understand
- I wanted to be wrong to validate my own actions

I was so ignorant I didn't even know that TRT exsisted.

In spite of that, I still followed their advice and eventually learned for myself why they gave the recommendations they did. Now I'm in year 7 of TRT and use my experiences and mistakes so others can benefit.

I recommend you try to be more open minded for the people that are provided you their opinion beyond just myself.

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Show me one post where I knowingly provided steroid advice to someone under the age of 25 years old.

You can't tell me you invested 15 years in anabolic education then ask the most basic rookie questions. I don't mean to cause offence by saying that but 15 years of reading wouldn't equate to the questions you've asked so far.

I've said it before but i'll try one last time.

John Smith has low T

John Smoths endocrine system has been operating the last arbitrary # years with low T

John Smith decided to embark on TRT and begins at a typical treatment dose.

John Smiths endocrine system is now adjusting to hormone changes.

John Smiths cardiovascular system is now adjusting to the endocrine changes (hematocrit, blood pressure, RBC, etc).

John Smiths circulatory system is now adjusting to the cardiovascular changes.

John Smiths sleep (circadian rhythm, REM, etc( is now adjusting.

John Smiths mental state (mood, well being, etc) is now adjusting from all of the above.

Before adjustments are completed John Smith doubles his TRT.

John Smiths body is shocked and restarts the adjustment process of all of the above.

12 weeks later John Smith cuts his TRT in half and restarts the process.

Now John Smith has gone through two roller coasters and may suffer any consequences accordingly.

If you don't see a problem with the above example nobody can help you. Above that, Sustanon is garbage for cycling. It was originally used in TRT in European countries and has mostly been replaced to Nebido which is superior in every way. There is no circumstance where Sustanon makes sense for cycling. It requires pinning every other day, causes peaks and valleys because of the ester mix, and has a useless ratio of short:long esters per mL.



When I joined this forum I was given advice

- I didn't agree with
- I didn't understand
- I wanted to be wrong to validate my own actions

I was so ignorant I didn't even know that TRT exsisted.

In spite of that, I still followed their advice and eventually learned for myself why they gave the recommendations they did. Now I'm in year 7 of TRT and use my experiences and mistakes so others can benefit.

I recommend you try to be more open minded for the people that are provided you their opinion beyond just myself.

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You speak your mind but also the truth, while some consider this impolite consider the opposite - not telling people they might get hurt - and realize the motives of this post.

^^ Yup