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    Preventing HCG Expiration for Long Usage

    I am about to start my first cycle using the protocol in Austinite's "My First Cycle" thread almost to a T. It calls for using small amounts HCG throughout the whole cycle (12-14 weeks). How do you prevent the HCG from expiring/losing it's potency in this time? I know it is supposed to only last about 30 days when refrigerated. The only way I could think of would be to buy 5 2000iu vials, but that seems like a bit of overkill and much more expensive. Any advice on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coltdawg View Post
    I am about to start my first cycle using the protocol in Austinite's "My First Cycle" thread almost to a T. It calls for using small amounts HCG throughout the whole cycle (12-14 weeks). How do you prevent the HCG from expiring/losing it's potency in this time? I know it is supposed to only last about 30 days. The only way I could think of would be to buy 5 2000iu vials, but that seems like a bit of overkill and much more expensive. Any advice on this?
    HCG is refrigerated once reconstituted and you can use it for 90 days.

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    Make.sure you reconstitute with bacteriostatic water and not sodium chloride. This will extend the amount of time that it will remain suitable for usage and allow for multiple draws from the same vial.
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    Are you sure HCG mixed can't conserve its properties without refrigeration for at least 14 days?

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    The premixed "highly purified," versions are supposed to be more forgiving, but I still prefer to reconstitute my HCG .
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    Quote Originally Posted by assguy22 View Post
    Are you sure HCG mixed can't conserve its properties without refrigeration for at least 14 days?
    If you mixed it up and let it sit at room temp it goes bad.

    I use already refrigerated Bact. Water.

    If you mix, refrigerate, let it get cold, then take it out and use it. And leave it out to reach room temp. It will loose major potency in a very short time, less than an hour.

    I've done this experiment with a syringe I loaded.

    Forgot to use it, found it on end table after breakfast and shower. Went to Dollar tree for a cheap energy drink, and some fish oil. I saw a pregnancy test, grabbed a few.

    Came home tested syringe, nothing.

    Tested bottle in fridge, positive fir pregnancy.

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    Thank you guys for the replies! Random question. Is it OK to use a syringe filter for HCG after reconstituting or will that ruin it? Buying mine from an indian pharmacy so just trying to be as safe as possible.

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    If your HCG comes in a sealed vial, you don't need to use a filter. It should be good to go after hydration with bacteriostatic water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    If your HCG comes in a sealed vial, you don't need to use a filter. It should be good to go after hydration with bacteriostatic water.
    True, but isn't there higher risk of contamination if it isn't coming from a legitimate trusted pharmacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coltdawg View Post
    Thank you guys for the replies! Random question. Is it OK to use a syringe filter for HCG after reconstituting or will that ruin it? Buying mine from an indian pharmacy so just trying to be as safe as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coltdawg View Post
    True, but isn't there higher risk of contamination if it isn't coming from a legitimate trusted pharmacy?
    Hey buddy, are you buying from pharmacy or some dudes? HCG is easily available at local pharmacies in India and those are pharma grade so no risks as far as i am aware. You may consider using filter for Test E since it is comes in glass vial in India otherwise you may end up with glass particals inside if opened wrongly.

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    hCG is good for a long time. 90 days without any potency loss. Beyond that you should assume 10% potency loss per month. Room temperature does not kill hCG. It only speeds up the potency loss process. But you shouldnt even worry about that if the product sat at room temp for a week or so. Always best to keep it in the fridge of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    hCG is good for a long time. 90 days without any potency loss. Beyond that you should assume 10% potency loss per month. Room temperature does not kill hCG. It only speeds up the potency loss process. But you shouldnt even worry about that if the product sat at room temp for a week or so. Always best to keep it in the fridge of course.
    Ah okay, so the 30 day rule is a myth? I already bought 5 2000iu vials at the advice of a friend, but next cycle I'll take your word for it and just buy 1 10000iu vial!

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    Quote Originally Posted by titans2857 View Post
    Hey buddy, are you buying from pharmacy or some dudes? HCG is easily available at local pharmacies in India and those are pharma grade so no risks as far as i am aware. You may consider using filter for Test E since it is comes in glass vial in India otherwise you may end up with glass particals inside if opened wrongly.

    **Just my 2 cents**
    It's from an Indian pharmacy. And good to know!

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    Thanks guys. In terms of filtering, I went ahead and bought some hydrophilic .22 micron syringe filters that are supposed to be okay to use with aqueous solutions (HCG ). Figure it couldn't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coltdawg View Post
    Ah okay, so the 30 day rule is a myth? I already bought 5 2000iu vials at the advice of a friend, but next cycle I'll take your word for it and just buy 1 10000iu vial!
    I believe the 30 day mentality stems from how labels are written on pharmagrade. For example, I get my HCG from the pharmacy and it says on the box "use within 30 days"".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I believe the 30 day mentality stems from how labels are written on pharmagrade. For example, I get my HCG from the pharmacy and it says on the box "use within 30 days"".

    Keeps guys buying more is all it does. I must have 10 boxes of HCG laying around due to the way my script is written. Whether I need it or not it keeps on showing up.
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    Another random question for you guys (especially Austinite since I'm basically following the protocol in your My First Cycle thread). In terms of the first and subsequent doses of HCG , should they be injected on the same day/time as Test E or on another day? (the day after, etc.?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by coltdawg View Post
    Another random question for you guys (especially Austinite since I'm basically following the protocol in your My First Cycle thread). In terms of the first and subsequent doses of HCG, should they be injected on the same day/time as Test E or on another day? (the day after, etc.?)
    As far as I know you can draw them in the same syringe and pin both at once. That's my plan anyway. I don't think it matters as long as you have the proper dose, which for most is 500iu/week, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcânn View Post
    As far as I know you can draw them in the same syringe and pin both at once. That's my plan anyway. I don't think it matters as long as you have the proper dose, which for most is 500iu/week, if I'm not mistaken.
    I will be injecting the HCG sub-q with an insulin syringe, so that’s not an option for me.

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    That seems like a waste if you can do it at the same time. But if you want to go sub-q, you can still do both pins on the same day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcânn View Post
    That seems like a waste if you can do it at the same time. But if you want to go sub-q, you can still do both pins on the same day.
    Just following standard injection protocol for HCG /peptide injection. There’s a really good video on HCG injection on the main site if you’re interested.

    Are you sure you can still do both pins on the same day? Where did you find that info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcânn View Post
    That seems like a waste if you can do it at the same time. But if you want to go sub-q, you can still do both pins on the same day.
    Don't mix the hcg with gear.

    There's tons of theoretical reasons, but hcg is fragile, the gear might kill it

    Plus a mixed im Depot of oil n water is just in my mind a good medium to introduce unnecessary inflammation and it infections

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    Quote Originally Posted by coltdawg View Post
    Another random question for you guys (especially Austinite since I'm basically following the protocol in your My First Cycle thread). In terms of the first and subsequent doses of HCG, should they be injected on the same day/time as Test E or on another day? (the day after, etc.?)
    It does not matter. Just pick days and do it then. Mix it with your gear for less pinning. hCG is not as fragile as we are led to believe.
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