Insulin or no?

[Alosh81]

Cant decide if i should put in insulin in my cycle or not. This is my cycle:

150mg Tren A E/D Weeks 1-16
750mg Sustanon E/W - Weeks 1-13
100mg Test p E/D - Weeks 13-16
100mg NPP E/D - Weeks 1-16
(insulin)
100mg Anadrol E/D - Weeks 1-5
25mcg T3 E/D - Weeks 1-16
100mcg T4 E/D - Weeks 1-16 (hypotyreos)
25mg mk-677 ED - Weeks 1-16

0.25 adex EOD
0.25 caber EOD
500iu hcg EW

Also thinkin about doing somehing like this:

Tren E 300mg e3d weeks 1-13
Tren a 150mg eod weeks 1-4
Tren a 150mg eod weeks 13-16

So i get the effect instantly and dont have to wait for the tren e. I dont like tren e but i really dont think i will be happy with 16weeks of pinning ed.

My questions: worth doing slin? Should i do that tren e instead of tren a?

Thank you,

[almostgone]

If it were me, I wouldn't use slin, I would pull the prop to the beginning of the cycle in your first layout, I probably wouldn't run (2) 19-nors (although some guys do), I would ditch the 'drol, lose the T3 and T4 (although some guys do prefer to run supplemental thyroid on tren), and I'm still not sold on the mk-677.
If you did that, you might not need the Cabergoline, but have it on hand, base your a'dex off your lab work not just dosing it at .25mg EOD, and I like the HCG.

Re: your second tren layout, I've done that before and it wasn't worth it for me. I would use tren ace or tren e, or.just run tri-tren all the way through.

Again, that is just my first thoughts, and not a criticism of your plan. Don't be surprised if your HDL has taken a hit when you first come off the cycle

Good luck!!!!

[kronik420]

stats? previous cycles? goal? pct?


ED pinning for 16 weeks...good luck with that

[Back In Black]

Post a photo of yourself mate, you must be a beast to be running that amount of gear.

[Alosh81]

stats? previous cycles? goal? pct?


ED pinning for 16 weeks...good luck with that

My goal is frank mc grath/antoine vaillant physique, big and fcking freaky. I changed so i only pin npp ed, i could throw in deca tho. This is my latest cycle update:

100mg Tren A E/D Weeks 1-4 and 13-16
300mg Tren E E3D Weeks 1-13

250mg Sustanon M/W/F - Weeks 1-13
100mg Test p E/D - Weeks 13-16

100mg NPP E/D - Weeks 1-16
Insulin novorapid 10iu pre and 10iu post workout
100mg Anadrol E/D - Weeks 1-5
25mcg T3 E/D - Weeks 1-16
100mcg T4 E/D - Weeks 1-16 (hypotyreos)
25mg mk-677 ED - Weeks 1-16

0.5 adex EOD
0.25 caber EOD
20mg nolva ED
500iu hcg EW

[kronik420]

so your going to be bulking? current stats?

[Alosh81]

so your going to be bulking? current stats?

Ye, im 6’4. Abt 15%bf, 250. Thinking to start at 5k cals and see week by week how my weight is going up on the scale and ill adjust it to what i want.

[ScotchGuard02]

Are you 21 y/o? What is your cycle history?

[Alosh81]

Are you 21 y/o? What is your cycle history?

Na im around 25. Ive done tren at 1.5g a week. Slin is new to me. So is npp and mk. Ive done eq, dbol, test p/e, tren a, anavar, winny, clen, t3, mast p.

[Alosh81]

So a lot of people is in this now. My latest update is this, let me know what you think:

100mg Tren A E/D Weeks 1-4 and 13-16
300mg Tren E E3D Weeks 1-13

250mg Sustanon M/W/F - Weeks 1-13
100mg Test p E/D - Weeks 13-16

100mg NPP E/D - Weeks 1-16

100mg Anadrol E/D - Weeks 1-5
25mcg T3 E/D - Weeks 1-16
100mcg T4 E/D - Weeks 1-16 (hypotyreos)
25mg mk-677 ED - Weeks 1-16

0.5 adex EOD
0.25 caber EOD
20mg nolva ED
500iu hcg EW


Im 250, so im planning to eat around 5k cals. With a 40/40/20 split. I can train how much it takes, i can do as much cardio as its needed. I can do whatever it takes in any aspect, i have a strong mind.

My current split is:
P/P/L

I eat dont eat shitty food. Only eggs, oats, chicken, wild rice, sweet potatoes, beef. Very boring diet but idgaf, im here for the results.

Im thinking abt putting

Npp 100mg ed weeks 1-4,13-16
Deca 300mg e3d weeks 1-13

What do u guys think abt my short/long esther split?

Also any other comments?

[MegaMeatMan]

So a lot of people is in this now. My latest update is this, let me know what you think:

100mg Tren A E/D Weeks 1-4 and 13-16
300mg Tren E E3D Weeks 1-13

250mg Sustanon M/W/F - Weeks 1-13
100mg Test p E/D - Weeks 13-16

100mg NPP E/D - Weeks 1-16

100mg Anadrol E/D - Weeks 1-5
25mcg T3 E/D - Weeks 1-16
100mcg T4 E/D - Weeks 1-16 (hypotyreos)
25mg mk-677 ED - Weeks 1-16

0.5 adex EOD
0.25 caber EOD
20mg nolva ED
500iu hcg EW


Im 250, so im planning to eat around 5k cals. With a 40/40/20 split. I can train how much it takes, i can do as much cardio as its needed. I can do whatever it takes in any aspect, i have a strong mind.

My current split is:
P/P/L

I eat dont eat shitty food. Only eggs, oats, chicken, wild rice, sweet potatoes, beef. Very boring diet but idgaf, im here for the results.

Im thinking abt putting

Npp 100mg ed weeks 1-4,13-16
Deca 300mg e3d weeks 1-13

What do u guys think abt my short/long esther split?

Also any other comments?

I think it's way overboard. Especially for your age. You're asking for health issues down the road.
Saw earlier a guy took 600mg of Enthanate, pinning twice a week. Went from 190's to 235!
You don't have to pin like you are to make good gains. I usually use 250-300mg of Enthanate, 200mg deca, a week 40mg dbol a day. For about 5wks of the cycle I add Tren E. I gain near 20lbs EVERY time. Do it once a year. Don't have to mess with all the side effects because I keep it moderate. Therfore no Armidex, nolvedex, Ect... BUT I'm on tht. 1cc a wk of 250 Enthanate a week year around. You won't need much to make gains at the point of things were your at.
I feel like you're at Overkill. But that's just one guys opinion. Already know your gonna do what you plan so I'm wasting my time. I'm 57 and don't expect to see you on here when you get my age. It's the old saying "Work smarter, not harder!" I'm sure you will see gains but at what cost.

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[AlphaMindz]

Drop the prop at the end it's completely pointless. Are you competing?

[Alosh81]

Changed the cycle a bit:

500mg Sustanon E3D- Weeks 1-16
100mg NPP E/D - Weeks 1-16
60mg Dbol E/D - Weeks 1-6
25mg mk-677 ED - Weeks 1-16 (for appetite)

[The Deadlifting Dog]

read his previous threads....
this guy is a troll.

[Alosh81]

read his previous threads....
this guy is a troll.

I come here for advice to adjust my cycle. And i did. I dropped the slin and gh. Why do u comment that, ur so fucking useless. Alqays the guys with the trash physique that comments this shit comments, just dont bother if ur not helping.

[Ashop]

For the average recreational bodybuilder I suggest to leave things like Insulin alone.
If your a professional level competitor that's a different story.