AAS Cycle for a woman: any suggestions ?

**Slacker78** · 09-17-2018, 09:56 AM

Hello guys, a friend of mine would be start her first cycle ( it's a woman 41's old ). I never taking care of an AAS cycle in female physiology but i think there are not so many difference it about, respect male one. I know the AAS effects could stop her period for all its duration blocking gonadotropins and the estrogens to check should E1,E2,E3 i suppose.

Now, i wonder which hematic parameters i should monitor during the cycle respect a male, if she could need a testosterone support ( the cycle was her advised does not include testosterone neither at low dosages ) and if she should run a PCT at same way as a male should be. As the cycle seems to be without testosterone support and the molecules that following do not convert in estrogens ( are not aromatizable ) i suppose she shouldn't use an AI.

This is the cycle she's going to run ( 10 weeks of cycle ):

- Primobolan depot - 100mg EOD
- Anavar - 30mg ED

And NAC, fish oils, red rice yeast as supplements.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you guys.

**ScotchGuard02** · 09-17-2018, 10:31 AM

I would suggest that she run an 8 week Anavar cycle. 10mg/ed Anavar for 8 weeks.

**Slacker78** · 09-17-2018, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I would suggest that she run an 8 week Anavar cycle. 10mg/ed Anavar for 8 weeks.

Ok Scotchguard, thank you. But i asked several questions above.

Now, i wonder which hematic parameters i should monitor during the cycle respect a male, if she could need a testosterone support ( the cycle was her advised does not include testosterone neither at low dosages ) and if she should run a PCT at same way as a male should be. As the cycle seems to be without testosterone support and the molecules that following do not convert in estrogens ( are not aromatizable ) i suppose she shouldn't use an AI.

**Windex** · 09-17-2018, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

Hello guys, a friend of mine would be start her first cycle ( it's a woman 41's old ). I never taking care of an AAS cycle in female physiology but i think there are not so many difference it about, respect male one. I know the AAS effects could stop her period for all its duration blocking gonadotropins and the estrogens to check should E1,E2,E3 i suppose.

Now, i wonder which hematic parameters i should monitor during the cycle respect a male, if she could need a testosterone support ( the cycle was her advised does not include testosterone neither at low dosages ) and if she should run a PCT at same way as a male should be. As the cycle seems to be without testosterone support and the molecules that following do not convert in estrogens ( are not aromatizable ) i suppose she shouldn't use an AI.

This is the cycle she's going to run ( 10 weeks of cycle ):

- Primobolan depot - 100mg EOD
- Anavar - 30mg ED

And NAC, fish oils, red rice yeast as supplements.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you guys.

AAS for Females is completely different than Males in every way - compound choice, dose, duration, etc. I recommend that she spends a lot of time reading because the side effects can be more severe and some are irreversible depending on compounds used.

**Slacker78** · 09-17-2018, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

AAS for Females is completely different than Males in every way - compound choice, dose, duration, etc. I recommend that she spends a lot of time reading because the side effects can be more severe and some are irreversible depending on compounds used.

Yes, but any info more as the questions i did ?

**vtach12** · 09-17-2018, 01:28 PM

What are her stats? Training history? What is she trying to accomplish? Those doses seem a little high for a first cycle... though not unreasonable. Yes get labs in ~6 weeks and compare with baseline labs. I have heard conflicting information on post cycle, so I will not speculate. Maybe an expirenced female can help with this?

**Slacker78** · 09-17-2018, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by vtach12

What are her stats? Training history? What is she trying to accomplish? Those doses seem a little high for a first cycle... though not unreasonable. Yes get labs in ~6 weeks and compare with baseline labs. I have heard conflicting information on post cycle, so I will not speculate. Maybe an expirenced female can help with this?

I think you are talking about primobolan dosage/inclusion stack about "high" doses. Anavar alone at 30mg isn't good as starting dose ? Maybe we could remove Primobolan and leave just Anavar at 30mg/ED. But about PCT ? Is there an expert female here ?

**ScotchGuard02** · 09-21-2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

Ok Scotchguard, thank you. But i asked several questions above.

Now, i wonder which hematic parameters i should monitor during the cycle respect a male, if she could need a testosterone support ( the cycle was her advised does not include testosterone neither at low dosages ) and if she should run a PCT at same way as a male should be. As the cycle seems to be without testosterone support and the molecules that following do not convert in estrogens ( are not aromatizable ) i suppose she shouldn't use an AI.

She should be monitoring all the same numbers that guys track. The actual values will vary from the men's numbers.
As for Test support with orals? Anavar is the only oral one can run without Test support.
PCT for women? Women don't PCT like men since they don't have testicles which they're trying to jump start. Women's PCT is more like tapering the AAS right towards the of the cycle so there is a smooth transition out of the cycle. There is no need to taper the dose on an Anavar cycle.
No, at 10mg/ed dose of Anavar she doesn't need to run an AI.

**Slacker78** · 09-21-2018, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

She should be monitoring all the same numbers that guys track. The actual values will vary from the men's numbers.
As for Test support with orals? Anavar is the only oral one can run without Test support.
PCT for women? Women don't PCT like men since they don't have testicles which they're trying to jump start. Women's PCT is more like tapering the AAS right towards the of the cycle so there is a smooth transition out of the cycle. There is no need to taper the dose on an Anavar cycle.
No, at 10mg/ed dose of Anavar she doesn't need to run an AI.

I suppose an AI would be indicated in case of high dosages of non-aromatizable compound ( like Anavar ) and a MUST in case of high-aromatizable compound ( like Test ). She will take 30mg/ED of Anavar; i don't think neither in this case, she should take an AI.

**The God Himself** · 09-21-2018, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

I suppose an AI would be indicated in case of high dosages of non-aromatizable compound ( like Anavar ) and a MUST in case of high-aromatizable compound ( like Test ). She will take 30mg/ED of Anavar; i don't think neither in this case, she should take an AI.

No, Oxandrolone is a DHT based steroid . It does not aromatize, hence no AI needed.

**GirlyGymRat** · 09-21-2018, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

I suppose an AI would be indicated in case of high dosages of non-aromatizable compound ( like Anavar ) and a MUST in case of high-aromatizable compound ( like Test ). She will take 30mg/ED of Anavar; i don't think neither in this case, she should take an AI.

10mg daily is typical female dosage.

I ran var/primo stack at 20/30 each. I had more sides then I preferred and found it just too much. Ended tapering off var and then primo.

No PCT required for me. I do suggest taper up and off at 30mg.

**PeanutbutterDC** · 09-21-2018, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

I think you are talking about primobolan dosage/inclusion stack about "high" doses. Anavar alone at 30mg isn't good as starting dose ? Maybe we could remove Primobolan and leave just Anavar at 30mg/ED. But about PCT ? Is there an expert female here ?

My first (only) cycle was 25mg/day anavar for 16 weeks. 50 yo female, 12-13% bodyfat, put on 10#, no side effects, no ai and no pct

**Slacker78** · 09-22-2018, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

10mg daily is typical female dosage.

I ran var/primo stack at 20/30 each. I had more sides then I preferred and found it just too much. Ended tapering off var and then primo.

No PCT required for me. I do suggest taper up and off at 30mg.

Could your sides be given from stacking var with Primo ?

Some folks suggest to tapering off Var, while other ones stated it's not necessary to taper and you can stop it immediately at the end of cycle... what's the best practice ?

**GirlyGymRat** · 09-22-2018, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Slacker78

Could your sides be given from stacking var with Primo ?

Some folks suggest to tapering off Var, while other ones stated it's not necessary to taper and you can stop it immediately at the end of cycle... what's the best practice ?

Both var and primo are from same family and sides are similar if not identical. It was too high dosage.

Ive read best practice is to taper on and off.

Regarding dosage, more doesn’t mean better. It’s a balance of sides to benefits. I want the least amount of sides with most amount of benefits! Why take more when less gives better balance? I would rather run another cycle after time off.

Another thing to consider is cycle duration. Some like 4 weeks. Some 12. Can gf maintain strict diet and training program for 12 weeks? I lean towards 6- 8 weeks after trying 12. 4 is a tad short for my liking.