Blood work results (pre cycle)

[WillieTag]

This will be my 1st cycle. 23 yoa
Everything normal? I noticed the last 2 results show low and then a few high results.

[kelkel]

How long since your last cycle and what pct did you run?

[WillieTag]

This will be my first cycle. Sorry should have included that in the description. 23 yoa

[WillieTag]

How long since your last cycle and what pct did you run?

This will be my first cycle. Sorry should have included that in the description. 23 yoa

[kelkel]

Well, high glucose, bun and creatining can be indicative of many things, from pre-diabetes to kidney issues to an overly high protein diet. You have to be the judge there as I don't know your history. How long did you fast?

My main concern is your LH & FSH values. These are abnormally low and at almost a shut down level. It's why I asked when you last cycled. It indicates pituitary function is absymal right now and eventually your test levels will probably crash. You need to look into this asap and hold off on any cycle at this time.

Further testing is needed. I would suggest you consult your doctor and request further testing such as a full thyroid panel, cortisol and prolactin as well as discussing a possible mri of your pituitary for an adenoma. Not trying to scare you but these levels simply should not be where they are. They are as if you are on exogenous testosterone or other substance that impacted pituitary function.

If these tests were performed via your doctor and he did not call you on your LH/FSH levels you need to find another, imho.

[WillieTag]

Well, high glucose, bun and creatining can be indicative of many things, from pre-diabetes to kidney issues to an overly high protein diet. You have to be the judge there as I don't know your history. How long did you fast?

My main concern is your LH & FSH values. These are abnormally low and at almost a shut down level. It's why I asked when you last cycled. It indicates pituitary function is absymal right now and eventually your test levels will probably crash. You need to look into this asap and hold off on any cycle at this time.

Further testing is needed. I would suggest you consult your doctor and request further testing such as a full thyroid panel, cortisol and prolactin as well as discussing a possible mri of your pituitary for an adenoma. Not trying to scare you but these levels simply should not be where they are. They are as if you are on exogenous testosterone or other substance that impacted pituitary function.

If these tests were performed via your doctor and he did not call you on your LH/FSH levels you need to find another, imho.

I’m not sure if it matters but I ate lunch about an hour before the test. Also 2 weeks prior to the test before I was reccomend to get blood work done I took 1/2cc of Test Cyp (125mg) I was planning on starting my cycle then but then found out that I needed blood work done.

[kelkel]

Well, everything I said was a waste of time as your tests are flawed. Your cbc's due to not fasting and your LH & FSH due to the shot of testosterone . It's a good lesson for new guys showing how fast test can actually shut someone down. Some say it can take multiple injections over weeks to occur but that is not always the case.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I would wait at least 4 weeks and get tested again.

[WillieTag]

Well, everything I said was a waste of time as your tests are flawed. Your cbc's due to not fasting and your LH & FSH due to the shot of testosterone. It's a good lesson for new guys showing how fast test can actually shut someone down. Some say it can take multiple injections over weeks to occur but that is not always the case.

Yeah my bad dude! I assumed just that little amount of test would not be enough to effect anything. So when can I start my cycle?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Yeah my bad dude! I assumed just that little amount of test would not be enough to effect anything. So when can I start my cycle?

If you want accurate bloodwork before starting your cycle then wait 4 weeks and get bloodwork.
Otherwise if you start your cycle now you will never know if you truly have recovered back to precycle levels.

[Arcânn]

I wish you had spent more time on the forums looking more stuff up before getting bloodwork, as there are a few things missing. And yes, eating right before a blood test will fuck a lot of shit up. You need to be fasted 12-14 hours before getting blood drawn.

I'm no expert on most of these values, as I'm relatively new to this as well. But your BUN and creatinine levels being high, to me, indicates the possibility of kidney issues, which would be a good idea to figure out before cycling. Kidney issues like that could come from too much protein, not enough water, high blood pressure, etc. Cycling typically raises blood pressure so if that's already a problem, it's something that needs to be figured out before starting.

You left out cholesterol (lipid profile) which is a BIG one. That could make or break your LIFE right there. I think the main things that will be important there are HDL, LDL, and triglycerides. All that and more come with the lipid profile. Your labs are clearly flawed because you ate right before getting blood drawn, but high glucose (from what I understand) is typically associated with high triglycerides, which is not something you want. But considering you're barely out of the normal range right after you ate, you might be fine if you're fasted. But you NEED to have a lipid profile done because cycling throws your cholesterol off and that can be dangerous. If you start a cycle with bad cholesterol numbers, you might be in more trouble than you can handle while on cycle.

You need to have both free testosterone and total testosterone tested. Total test doesn't tell us much. If nothing else, you need to have those as a baseline to know where your normal levels are so you can see if you're recovering after your cycle (assuming PCT).

Also, your estradiol needs to be Estradiol Sensitive (E2 Sensitive). I can't remember all the reasons why, but in men, it's the E2 sensitive that needs to be tested.

[Couchlockd]

You can probably play him now to get a prescription for testosterone because according to your blood work you're a low T male

[WillieTag]

You can probably play him now to get a prescription for testosterone because according to your blood work you're a low T male

What results suggest it’s low? Just the LH & FSH

[kelkel]

I would not take that path at your age.

[Couchlockd]

I would not take that path at your age.

Did not see his age. I stand corrected.

Please do some research man. You'll thank kel later

[WillieTag]

Did not see his age. I stand corrected.

Please do some research man. You'll thank kel later

So what’s the recommended age? I’ll be 24 in 3 months. I’ve been the same heigh since I was 16 and around 180 lbs for the last few years. I’ve been training with weights for going on 3 years now. Y’all are not supplying evidence or any reasons behind your statements.

[Couchlockd]

So what’s the recommended age? I’ll be 24 in 3 months. I’ve been the same heigh since I was 16 and around 180 lbs for the last few years. I’ve been training with weights for going on 3 years now. Y’all are not supplying evidence or any reasons behind your statements.

Did you see how your bloods looked?

Imagine that being lower permanently forever.

Cycling is one thing, but your lacking basic knowledge of the drugs your going to be using.

You'll need for a successful cycle;

Testosterone
Human Chrorionic gonadotropin (HCG )
an aromatase inhibitor (Arimidex , Adex, Anastrozole, all the same drug just different terms commonly used)
Pct drugs below
And at least 800mg of Nolvadex
And 1600mg of clomid

The most expensive drug in the list is Adex, it's about $2 oer tab, but you only need a quarter a tab every other day during cycle.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

So what’s the recommended age? I’ll be 24 in 3 months. I’ve been the same heigh since I was 16 and around 180 lbs for the last few years. I’ve been training with weights for going on 3 years now. Y’all are not supplying evidence or any reasons behind your statements.

Couchlockd mentioned TRT.
KelKel is saying you are too young for TRT.

[kelkel]

First you need to let your testosterone levels rise and normalize. This will take time. At your age odds are they will rebound quickly. In a couple months get some basic blood work again to check the problem areas. If all is normal then these will be your baselines for when you do decide to cycle. Meaning it will help you to gauge recovery after pct.

Take some time and read the Successful First Cycle thread at the top of this forum. It will guide you when the time comes.

[kelkel]

S I’ve been the same heigh since I was 16 and around 180 lbs for the last few years.

Ok, so maybe you won't be any taller, but how much you weigh is up to you. If you want to gain weight it's all up to you, your nutrition and your training. Your 180 lbs and lets assume you want to be 200 lbs. Then you have to eat like you're a 200 lb man and must continue to do so to maintain that weight. It's not easy. A cycle can help you gain without question if diet is on point, but you won't be able to maintain it without learning to eat properly and enough. It's harder than it seems.

[Couchlockd]

Also I will add, pct, or using clomid and nokva to restart quicker, is not no where near as miserable or shitty as guys make it seem.

In that same breath, neither is going cokd turkey and just coming off with no pct drugs after one shot.

I've done it after 2 shots 30 days apart

I honestly felt no different.