First tren ace cycle ?? Dosage questions and sides??

[Ballsdeep8888]

Just brought tren for the first time.

Tren ace
Test e

Havnt had it before.

Have had test prop and winstrol but wanted to try something bit diff.


Was going to have low test higher tren as I was told sides are not as bad but still def there.

200 mg test e per week
250 mg tren ace per week

Pct nolva maybe hcg if need be.



What are ways to try lessen the effects of some of the sides? As in make them not as fukd as what I hear from ppl

I am about 6 ft 3

98 kg

Move from about 11-13 % body fat depending on season summer/winter

[Windex]

How many total cycles have you had and what were your results from each cycle?

What are your goals for this cycle ?

What does a typical day of eating look like for you?

What does your cholesterol levels look like ?

Your PCT is completely wrong - it should be Nolva+Clomid

HCG is run on cycle not during PCT

When was the last time you had blood work done? What were the results?

Tren requires Dostinex or Pramiplexol to manage prolactin.

You haven't mentioned an AI either.

You can't pre-plan side effects because you have never used Tren before so you don't know how your body will react. Managing insomnia is completely different than managing muscle pumps which is completely different than managing excessive sweating.

It's easier to keep ester length the same across compounds - ie Test Prop with Tren Ace and Test E/C with Tren E

Overall, you need to spend a lot more time on research and education before jumping in otherwise your cycle will be a disaster.

[Ballsdeep8888]

How many total cycles have you had and what were your results from each cycle?

3 cycles - all quite good results have had a break for 2 years

What are your goals for this cycle ?

Lowering body fat + add 1-3 kg muscle

What does a typical day of eating look like for you?

clean eating 7-8 meals per day

Going to only eat carbs after training and once in morning ....

Mainly eat green vegetables , diff meats , brown rice + egg whites / omelettes throughout the day and night



What does your cholesterol levels look like ?

They are fine I do 25 min cardio every day

Your PCT is completely wrong - it should be Nolva+ clomid


What will the clomid do diff to the nolva?


HCG is run on cycle not during PCT

Ok

When was the last time you had blood work done? What were the results?

About 6 months they were fine

Tren requires Dostinex or Pramiplexol to manage prolactin.

You haven't mentioned an AI either.

I have arimidex but don't know if I will need it with such low doses

You can't pre-plan side effects because you have never used Tren before so you don't know how your body will react. Managing insomnia is completely different than managing muscle pumps which is completely different than managing excessive sweating.

It's easier to keep ester length the same across compounds - ie Test Prop with Tren Ace and Test E/C with Tren E

Overall, you need to spend a lot more time on research and education before jumping in otherwise your cycle will be a disaster.

[kelkel]

Take a look at the All you need to know about Tren sticky at the top of this forum too.

[ScotchGuard02]

I would run Test E @ 300mg/wk for 4 weeks before you start running Tren A for the last 8 weeks. You should make sure you have an AI, HCG and Caber on hand before you start your cycle. Tren is heavily suppressive so you should plan on running a full PCT of Nolvadex 40/20/20/20 and Clomid 100/50/50/50.

You may experience insomnia, anorgasmia, soft erections, hair loss, night sweat, etc. One or more of these are pretty common sides for a Tren run.

[AlphaMindz]

Just brought tren for the first time.

Tren ace
Test e

Havnt had it before.

Have had test prop and winstrol but wanted to try something bit diff.


Was going to have low test higher tren as I was told sides are not as bad but still def there.

200 mg test e per week
250 mg tren ace per week

Pct nolva maybe hcg if need be.



What are ways to try lessen the effects of some of the sides? As in make them not as fukd as what I hear from ppl

I am about 6 ft 3

98 kg

Move from about 11-13 % body fat depending on season summer/winter

Your results will prob be similar to test prop and winny in terms of the "look" you'll get, although you'll experience a much greater strength increase from tren and more body fat reduction as tren is great at keeping glucose out of the blood and loaded in the muscle cells.

Tren is a 19 nor testosterone derivative which means, as Scotch mentioned, it's HIGHLY suppressive of your natural test production AND has the added bonus of elevating prolactin levels which will cause sexual dysfunction in most men. Some guys are lucky and don't get this, but MOST do.

Since it is your first run with tren I would highly recommend that you increase the test to 500mg/weekly (while controlling estrogen conversion with an AI) and drop the tren to 50mg eod. That should be PLENTY if it's real tren and you're eating properly and training hard and resting enough, of course. Doing this will also mitigate almost all of the sides that come with tren. You may still get a little bit of sleeplessness at that dosage but your body will adapt quickly (within 7-10 days). I doubt you'll experience sexual dysfunction at that dose either as the elevated test levels will override the slight increase in prolactin as long as estrogen is in range. You will still get all the other benefits (elevated IGF-1, increased nutrient partitioning, strength increase, hardness, fullness, etc).

I'm not the best guy to talk to about PCT but I would follow Scotch's advice on that because you will be shut down hard so if youre not on trt you'll wanna do a solid pct to get those bullocks back in the swing of things haha. (bullocks is the British way of saying balls, no?) Lol I'm having fun now, but you get my gist! Good luck with the cycle. Let us know what you decide to do, and if I may suggest posting pics to let the community follow your progress that would be great cause it helps us all out and inspires the newer guys!

*hell, it inspires all of us not just the newer guys!

[shaunjohn242002]

I wouldn’t run test that high, no need. Run test at trt dose and let the tren do the heavy lifting. 50 mg every two day sounds good to me, taper up if you handle it well. I wouldn’t go over 100 mg every two days unless your doing a competition. Just my opinion

[Ballsdeep8888]

Yah I heard caber is the go to for prolactin ....


Is that the only thing you can get for that??

... it's hard to find in my country or get unfortunately..... I'll have look around....


Was going to run this for around 9-10 weeks or so max .......

Would arimidex be a must on such low test levels over that time period?

I've had in in the past but only when running like 700 mg sustanon with my first cycle

[Charlie67]

Would arimidex be a must on such low test levels over that time period?

I've had in in the past but only when running like 700 mg sustanon with my first cycle

Maybe, maybe not... You just have to get to know how you react. I could tell you "probably not" but only your mid-cycle blood work can really tell you. And even then it depends on how you feel. I actually feel pretty good when my E floats a little high.

[waltr64]

In addition to all the above if you are going to run low dose as mentioned I'd recommend adding Proviron to your cycle but in reality I agree with all the above for the first time more Test and add in some AI after the first week. On your next cycle you can experiment with low test higher tren (I have a friend that loves it) and I am considering it myself in the very near future. Just got my blood work back today and my test was through the roof which I was not expecting but also my estrogen was way way high so if you can get tested about 4 or 5 weeks into your cycle to check for estrogen and prolactin it would be good. Good luck and enjoy. The results should be amazing.

[Windex]

Yah I heard caber is the go to for prolactin ....


Is that the only thing you can get for that??

... it's hard to find in my country or get unfortunately..... I'll have look around....


Was going to run this for around 9-10 weeks or so max .......

Would arimidex be a must on such low test levels over that time period?

I've had in in the past but only when running like 700 mg sustanon with my first cycle

Pramiplexol is the alternative to Dostinex.

Bloodwork is what drives estrogen and prolactin control.

Blood work 6 months ago is out dated. And cholesterol being "fine" doesn't mean anything without context. Just because you do cardio doesn't mean your cholesterol is fine.

Again, you need to spend more time on education. Spoon-feeding you all the information, telling you what to do, and then you blindly following it is not going to teach you anything and just set you up for failure down the road.

[Ballsdeep8888]

I will get my bloods redone this week....

Alternate to those 2 things prami and caber there's nothing over the counter that u can get I suppose ?


Heard that vitamin b6 is real bad for your nerves system

Prami and caber are both prescription

[ScotchGuard02]

I will get my bloods redone this week....

Alternate to those 2 things prami and caber there's nothing over the counter that u can get I suppose ?


Heard that vitamin b6 is real bad for your nerves system

Prami and caber are both prescription

Even if Prami and Caber are prescription drugs, you need one of them if you run Tren.

[Windex]

Some Peptide/Research Chem companies sell liquid Pramiplexol but it's adding on more risk to go that way.

[GearHeaded]

adding Masteron to this cycle will likely aide this cycle in not only a synergistic way but also in lower side effects . Masteron has a strong affinity to SHBG, so it will thus allow test and tren to work better and free up more active hormone. Masteron also has the ability to blunt both prolactin and estrogen receptors (so you'll limit both negative estrogen and prolactin side effects , and likely not need an AI or Caber)

having said that -- as an AAS user, you should always have on hand and readily available ancillaries like AI's , SERMS, DA's (anti prolactin) etc..
so yes have them on hand. but it is highly unlikely at only 200mg of test and only 250mg of tren that you'll 'need' either an AI or Caber/Prami, especially if you ran Masteron along with this stack

[Obs]

adding Masteron to this cycle will likely aide this cycle in not only a synergistic way but also in lower side effects . Masteron has a strong affinity to SHBG, so it will thus allow test and tren to work better and free up more active hormone. Masteron also has the ability to blunt both prolactin and estrogen receptors (so you'll limit both negative estrogen and prolactin side effects , and likely not need an AI or Caber)

having said that -- as an AAS user, you should always have on hand and readily available ancillaries like AI's , SERMS, DA's (anti prolactin) etc..
so yes have them on hand. but it is highly unlikely at only 200mg of test and only 250mg of tren that you'll 'need' either an AI or Caber/Prami, especially if you ran Masteron along with this stack

I am on a lot of tren a, test p, and mast. Equal parts at 100mg per day and 100mg winny.

I run no AI and have done similar cycles but without mast. The sides are definitely less. This cycle has made my libido damn near uncontrollable is the only severe side. I have pretty strong thoughts and a never cheat, loyal to the end attitude.
This has put me to the test though.

I am accidentally on the prowl for something I cannot have and will not do, constantly.

Also, this blast has taken me to a level never seen before. I feel likeca beefmaster bull at the gym and everyone notices.

This is my favorite cycle ever!
Oh.... I am losing some hair.
Other than that... ;-o hell yeah.

[GearHeaded]

I am on a lot of tren a, test p, and mast. Equal parts at 100mg per day and 100mg winny.

I run no AI and have done similar cycles but without mast. The sides are definitely less. This cycle has made my libido damn near uncontrollable is the only severe side. I have pretty strong thoughts and a never cheat, loyal to the end attitude.
This has put me to the test though.

I am accidentally on the prowl for something I cannot have and will not do, constantly.

Also, this blast has taken me to a level never seen before. I feel likeca beefmaster bull at the gym and everyone notices.

This is my favorite cycle ever!
Oh.... I am losing some hair.
Other than that... ;-o hell yeah.

thats a great cycle , and like many other guys your not using an AI with such a cycle and doing awesome (unfortunately some guys are super estrogen sensitive and have to run some sort of anti estrogen .. though I suggest SERMs over AI's in most cases).

well I do have a solution to both of your 'problems' , the raging sex drive and the loss of hair. Dutesteride. you'll limit your production of DHT by blocking the conversion of it via the 5 alpha reductase enzyme .. lower DHT means lower sex drive and less hair loss.
however, some chicks dig big jacked bald horny guys, so you may want to continue without the Dutest

[Obs]

thats a great cycle , and like many other guys your not using an AI with such a cycle and doing awesome (unfortunately some guys are super estrogen sensitive and have to run some sort of anti estrogen .. though I suggest SERMs over AI's in most cases).

well I do have a solution to both of your 'problems' , the raging sex drive and the loss of hair. Dutesteride. you'll limit your production of DHT by blocking the conversion of it via the 5 alpha reductase enzyme .. lower DHT means lower sex drive and less hair loss.
however, some chicks dig big jacked bald horny guys, so you may want to continue without the Dutest

I have an early cro magnon warrior skull...
I think it will be scary bald.

It will come in time regardless, but a friend sent me some dht blocker actuall it should be in ny box now. Just too damn lazy to get it atm.

I do worry my scary head will repel people though, really.

[Aerospace]

Have at it. Everyone has to try Tren Ace, especially nowdays where all these kids worship it on online forums. It's a bitch with sides

[Couchlockd]

I'm scared of Tren.

I am honest enough with myself to say I probably would succumb to the agression.

700mg mast had me tweaked just below what I can handle.