AI suggestions

**Justinproctor684** · 09-26-2018, 09:22 PM

Im three weeks in on a test c 250 cycle and was wanting to stack it with winnie starting week five i was just curious about what kind of AI i should be using

**Marcus G** · 09-27-2018, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Justinproctor684

Im three weeks in on a test c 250 cycle and was wanting to stack it with winnie starting week five i was just curious about what kind of AI i should be using

What dose are you doing 250mg a week? Adding winny won't change the fact that you could need an AI my personal favourite is Arimidex but can't give you much more than that as your dose of test isn't fully clear and without blood test it would be guessing.

**waltr64** · 09-27-2018, 02:17 AM

I agree with Marcus G 100%, I just got my blood work back and thought my AI was on point. Turns out I was very wrong, my estrogen levels were way too high this time. I changed gear and the new stuff seems to be much higher quality than what I had been using (which was still good). My T values were also off the chart high but that is somewhat normal, haha, As soon as I got home I took 1mg of Arimidex (my doc recommends Arimidex).

But if you have been on for 3 weeks it is time to start thinking AI. I would hope you are pinning 250mg twice a week? Also, what is your age? Also, realize if you have the genetic disposition Winny is one of the worst for hair loss.

**The God Himself** · 09-27-2018, 02:37 AM

Without having any info about your protocol, age, bloodwork data; this will be a blindshot.
Normally a cycle like you run will work out smoothly with a non-suicidal AI like Arimidex (anastrozole).
If you are very prone to aromatization (high BF for example, which is a good reason not to cycle), you can try a more powerful AI like Letrozole .
Best idea is to start with arimidex and do a bloodwork midcycle to see where you are at.

**Justinproctor684** · 09-27-2018, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Marcus G

What dose are you doing 250mg a week? Adding winny won't change the fact that you could need an AI my personal favourite is Arimidex but can't give you much more than that as your dose of test isn't fully clear and without blood test it would be guessing.

Im 30 5 foot 8 200 pounds im injecting one ml of test a week.. also im very new to this do i just go to my normal doctor and ask for blood work.. what reason do i give them

**Justinproctor684** · 09-27-2018, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by waltr64

I agree with Marcus G 100%, I just got my blood work back and thought my AI was on point. Turns out I was very wrong, my estrogen levels were way too high this time. I changed gear and the new stuff seems to be much higher quality than what I had been using (which was still good). My T values were also off the chart high but that is somewhat normal, haha, As soon as I got home I took 1mg of Arimidex (my doc recommends Arimidex).

But if you have been on for 3 weeks it is time to start thinking AI. I would hope you are pinning 250mg twice a week? Also, what is your age? Also, realize if you have the genetic disposition Winny is one of the worst for hair loss.

Yeah i have hair loss but keep it buzzed anyway im starting to learn that the guy i was learning from really didn't know what he was doing. I posted my age and everything

**Marcus G** · 09-27-2018, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Justinproctor684

Im 30 5 foot 8 200 pounds im injecting one ml of test a week.. also im very new to this do i just go to my normal doctor and ask for blood work.. what reason do i give them

You may not need an AI at that dose but on the contrary you may so yes your doctor will give you a blood test but don't tell him your on anything just tell him your experiencing nipple soreness and sleepiness (basically high estrogen symptoms) then he should give you the test or just pay for test private.

**Justinproctor684** · 09-27-2018, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Marcus G

You may not need an AI at that dose but on the contrary you may so yes your doctor will give you a blood test but don't tell him your on anything just tell him your experiencing nipple soreness and sleepiness (basically high estrogen symptoms) then he should give you the test or just pay for test private.

Awesome thank you I'll get that appointment made and other then milk thistle is there anything else i should take to help with the winnie also how much of the milk thistle should i take if I'm injecting 50mg winnie every other day

**Marcus G** · 09-27-2018, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Justinproctor684

Awesome thank you I'll get that appointment made and other then milk thistle is there anything else i should take to help with the winnie also how much of the milk thistle should i take if I'm injecting 50mg winnie every other day

Never used milk thistle sorry

**The God Himself** · 09-27-2018, 07:27 AM

NAC and TUDCA are the best shit around you can take to protect your liver from AAS induced cholestasis and hepatocellular damage.

**Justinproctor684** · 09-27-2018, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by The God Himself

NAC and TUDCA are the best shit around you can take to protect your liver from AAS induced cholestasis and hepatocellular damage.

Alright thank you guys for all this i got some research to do now lol

**GearHeaded** · 09-27-2018, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Justinproctor684

Im three weeks in on a test c 250 cycle and was wanting to stack it with winnie starting week five i was just curious about what kind of AI i should be using

why do you think you "should" be using an AI at this point ? do you have any evidence or reasons for needing an AI at this point in your cycle, or have past experience with cycles that suggest your very estrogen sensitive?
imo, AI's are used for very specific purposes and reasons and shouldn't be just thrown into a cycle for no real reason (80% of guys have no real need for an AI and they end up causing more harm then good and hinder gains).

**Justinproctor684** · 09-27-2018, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

why do you think you "should" be using an AI at this point ? do you have any evidence or reasons for needing an AI at this point in your cycle, or have past experience with cycles that suggest your very estrogen sensitive?
imo, AI's are used for very specific purposes and reasons and shouldn't be just thrown into a cycle for no real reason (80% of guys have no real need for an AI and they end up causing more harm then good and hinder gains).

No nothing that suggest that i need one this is my first cycle ever and the guy that i was learning from turned out to not know as much as i thought he did i decided to start doing my own research and learning and i am just trying to cover all my bases this far into my cycle. Im trying to learn as much as possible and i usually don't go into things like this uneducated on them but i trusted this dude when i shouldn't have..

**Justinproctor684** · 09-27-2018, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

why do you think you "should" be using an AI at this point ? do you have any evidence or reasons for needing an AI at this point in your cycle, or have past experience with cycles that suggest your very estrogen sensitive?
imo, AI's are used for very specific purposes and reasons and shouldn't be just thrown into a cycle for no real reason (80% of guys have no real need for an AI and they end up causing more harm then good and hinder gains).

No nothing that suggest that i need one this is my first cycle ever and the guy that i was learning from turned out to not know as much as i thought he did i decided to start doing my own research and learning and i am just trying to cover all my bases this far into my cycle. Im trying to learn as much as possible and i usually don't go into things like this uneducated on them but i trusted this dude when i shouldn't have..

**Ashop** · 09-27-2018, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Justinproctor684

Im three weeks in on a test c 250 cycle and was wanting to stack it with winnie starting week five i was just curious about what kind of AI i should be using

Most do very well with ARIMIDEX .