Long time on a blast questions.

[zyzzraver17]

Hello.


i have been on a blast for a couple of months now, After 12 weeks i switch compounds like first 12 weeks Test deca , then after 12 weeks i switch to test Tren of test Dbol.

But how is it possible that my second or thirth cycle is less effective ? has it anything to do with need to take a cruise ?

Waiting for reply.

[The God Himself]

The problem with blasting too long is your blood counts will raise. You need to watch your values and donate blood if necessary.
You should cruise, don’t blast for a very long time.
Blasting too long will screw your blood lipids and not good for your liver and heart in the long term.
Having your receptors exposed to high amount of androgens for a long time will desensitize them and this might be the cause for your cycles being less effective. (Not sure about this since there is not enough research on AR downregulation that I can find)

[AlphaMindz]

Hello.


i have been on a blast for a couple of months now, After 12 weeks i switch compounds like first 12 weeks Test deca , then after 12 weeks i switch to test Tren of test Dbol.

But how is it possible that my second or thirth cycle is less effective ? has it anything to do with need to take a cruise ?

Waiting for reply.

Your body is designed to maintain homeostasis at all times, so over time your body will adjust to the increase in anabolic hormones and they will become less effective at building muscle. Keep in mind that even though you're rotating the other compounds which is good, your test is always high which means your androgen receptors are always saturated.

This is why we have to do resets where we either drop the other compounds and only take a physiological dose of test for a good 6-8 weeks to let those receptors regain sensitivity to the drugs OR come off COMPLETELY for 6 weeks or so. I recently did a reset by cruising on 250mg/week of test e for about 8 weeks and it def made a difference when I upped the dose again and added in other compounds. I could feel my body responding better to the drugs again.

I am yet to come off completely for a month or two but that's what I'm going to do for my next reset. This sounds like the best approach to me which is why I'm going to try it next time. Apparently it takes a solid month before you can really "feel" symptoms of low t and then we stick it out for another 2 weeks (so about 6 weeks altogether) and by then your test levels will be SO low that when you reintroduce testosterone and maybe eq or deca with it, your body will "explode" in response to the drugs! THAT sounds awesome to me and I'm def gonna try it! Sounds like you could use a good reset yourself. If you don't wanna come off completely that's cool I totally get it lol, but at least drop the dose down as low as possible (I would go even lower then I did cause although my body responded well when I got back on, I feel like it would've been even better if I had stopped completely or even been at like 100mg/week) for 6-8 weeks to let your receptors regain sensitivity and THEN start your next blast. I assure you that you will be happy with how your body responds!

[zyzzraver17]

Thanks for your reply, this really makes sence, i already did alot of research and saw alot of post's talking about the androgen receptors and thats why i was like dammn maybe thats the problem, so you are right i will start a cruise this week with low test for around 6-8 weeks, after that i will up test t0 500mg again and stack deca with dbol with it just to check how my body is responding to it this time, hopefully it will be more effective then i had now (without cruise)

[GearHeaded]

Thanks for your reply, this really makes sence, i already did alot of research and saw alot of post's talking about the androgen receptors and thats why i was like dammn maybe thats the problem, so you are right i will start a cruise this week with low test for around 6-8 weeks, after that i will up test t0 500mg again and stack deca with dbol with it just to check how my body is responding to it this time, hopefully it will be more effective then i had now (without cruise)

just an FYI - your body is continually 'turning over' androgen receptors AND making more and more androgen receptors. the longer your on gear the more androgen receptors your body will make. the more gear you take, the more your body may make. in fact, there are some that will argue that there is no such thing as complete 'androgen receptor saturation' or 'androgen receptor competition (where say there are such few androgen receptors, two drugs like Tren and Test are therefore competing for receptor binding),, that there are so many androgen reactors and our body has such an ability to make more androgen receptors, that we couldn't possibly even inject enough gear to fully saturate EVERY androgen receptor.

just another 'camp' of ideas for you to consider in your research

[zyzzraver17]

Your body is designed to maintain homeostasis at all times, so over time your body will adjust to the increase in anabolic hormones and they will become less effective at building muscle. Keep in mind that even though you're rotating the other compounds which is good, your test is always high which means your androgen receptors are always saturated.

This is why we have to do resets where we either drop the other compounds and only take a physiological dose of test for a good 6-8 weeks to let those receptors regain sensitivity to the drugs OR come off COMPLETELY for 6 weeks or so. I recently did a reset by cruising on 250mg/week of test e for about 8 weeks and it def made a difference when I upped the dose again and added in other compounds. I could feel my body responding better to the drugs again.

I am yet to come off completely for a month or two but that's what I'm going to do for my next reset. This sounds like the best approach to me which is why I'm going to try it next time. Apparently it takes a solid month before you can really "feel" symptoms of low t and then we stick it out for another 2 weeks (so about 6 weeks altogether) and by then your test levels will be SO low that when you reintroduce testosterone and maybe eq or deca with it, your body will "explode" in response to the drugs! THAT sounds awesome to me and I'm def gonna try it! Sounds like you could use a good reset yourself. If you don't wanna come off completely that's cool I totally get it lol, but at least drop the dose down as low as possible (I would go even lower then I did cause although my body responded well when I got back on, I feel like it would've been even better if I had stopped completely or even been at like 100mg/week).

Thanks for your reply, this really makes sence, i already did alot of research and saw alot of post's talking about the androgen receptors and thats why i was like dammn maybe thats the problem, so you are right i will start a cruise this week with low test for around 6-8 weeks, after that i will up test t0 500mg again and stack deca with dbol with it just to check how my body is responding to it this time, hopefully it will be more effective then i had now (without cruise)

[zyzzraver17]

Your body is designed to maintain homeostasis at all times, so over time your body will adjust to the increase in anabolic hormones and they will become less effective at building muscle. Keep in mind that even though you're rotating the other compounds which is good, your test is always high which means your androgen receptors are always saturated.

This is why we have to do resets where we either drop the other compounds and only take a physiological dose of test for a good 6-8 weeks to let those receptors regain sensitivity to the drugs OR come off COMPLETELY for 6 weeks or so. I recently did a reset by cruising on 250mg/week of test e for about 8 weeks and it def made a difference when I upped the dose again and added in other compounds. I could feel my body responding better to the drugs again.

I am yet to come off completely for a month or two but that's what I'm going to do for my next reset. This sounds like the best approach to me which is why I'm going to try it next time. Apparently it takes a solid month before you can really "feel" symptoms of low t and then we stick it out for another 2 weeks (so about 6 weeks altogether) and by then your test levels will be SO low that when you reintroduce testosterone and maybe eq or deca with it, your body will "explode" in response to the drugs! THAT sounds awesome to me and I'm def gonna try it! Sounds like you could use a good reset yourself. If you don't wanna come off completely that's cool I totally get it lol, but at least drop the dose down as low as possible (I would go even lower then I did cause although my body responded well when I got back on, I feel like it would've been even better if I had stopped completely or even been at like 100mg/week).

Thanks for your reply, this really makes sence, i already did alot of research and saw alot of post's talking about the androgen receptors and thats why i was like dammn maybe thats the problem, so you are right i will start a cruise this week with low test for around 6-8 weeks, after that i will up test t0 500mg again and stack deca with dbol with it just to check how my body is responding to it this time, hopefully it will be more effective then i had now (without cruise)

[GearHeaded]

Hello.


i have been on a blast for a couple of months now, After 12 weeks i switch compounds like first 12 weeks Test deca , then after 12 weeks i switch to test Tren of test Dbol.

But how is it possible that my second or thirth cycle is less effective ? has it anything to do with need to take a cruise ?

Waiting for reply.

blasting for a couple of months is really not all that long.. if your having trouble making gains at this point you should really look into analyzing your diet and training programs and pick apart whats going on there. thats where you'll find new growth potential. the drugs should still be working (however having said that, there are much more efficient and safer protocols then staying on a blast long term)

[kelkel]

blasting for a couple of months is really not all that long.. if your having trouble making gains at this point you should really look into analyzing your diet and training programs and pick apart whats going on there. thats where you'll find new growth potential.

That ^^^^^

[ScotchGuard02]

I have made a simple observation over the years. If all else being the same, I am not making gains, I stop my cycle and PCT. Give my body time to reset and run another cycle. If you goal is be a professional BB, this method may not suit your need. My goal is to be healthy, look good, and have functional strength.

[Kay kay]

The other replies hit the nail on the head. You need breaks from the high level of androgens or your body will just adapt and you won’t get the same growth. No switching steroids does not mitigate the need for breaks.

This is why people blast and cruise. In my experience, cruising for just a few weeks makes a huge difference in conjunction with a short pre cycle prime. Marcus300 has a great thread on pre cycle priming.

Being patient and taking short cruises with priming was a game changer for me.

[zyzzraver17]

So if i take a cruise now at 250mg a week for 4a6 weeks and then blast again this will work ?

[Kay kay]

Absolutely. Please search up marcus300’s “pre cycle prime” thread, and run a pre cycle prime during the 4-6 week cruise.

A pre cycle prime helps get your body ready to open up a growth window, so using it during your cruise will allow your body to blast back into maximum gains once you start your cycle. The concept is explained very well in detail in Marcus300’s thread

[Kay kay]

I would advise 6 weeks rather than 4. If you run the pre cycle prime in those 6 weeks and do it as outlined in the thread I promise you will see gains again!

[zyzzraver17]

I will let you guys stay updated on when i start my blast again , im almost done with my 3th cruise week, can't wait to see if my next blast will be more effective