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10-10-2018, 08:58 PM #41Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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I have no idea what or where you read, but Tren is a horrible idea for a first cycle, even worse than your original idea. If you read the link I posted it will provide you the correct information on how to start cycling. You need to read it because you are all over the place. If you still have questions after reading the link then post those questions.
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10-10-2018, 09:25 PM #42
I see admin peakin in...
I will distract him by posting naked pics in the castle.
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10-11-2018, 12:18 AM #43
Gg ,
You have come to the right place
But still have ALOT TO LEARN ...
Just simply start with getting your. Nutrition and training in order and come back when you are ready when you have exhausted your natural gains man .
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10-11-2018, 01:08 AM #44
I’m just gonna say good luck.
You can choose to ignore all the sage advice you have received. That is entirely your prerogative.
Should this fvck you up there are probably still a few guys who may help fix you even they plenty will feel their time has been wasted.
So
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10-11-2018, 01:12 AM #45Junior Member
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At Obs, Ok now am freaked out !! That as a 1st time every injectable ? Com'on ..
At Windex, Really ?? Damn man so I dont get it anymore, on here in this very one website when reading the steroid profile of Tren it is said:
"Trenbolone Acetate is an extremely powerful anabolic steroid and is considered the single greatest anabolic steroid by many performance enhancing athletes. This is one of the most versatile anabolic steroids on the market and can provide benefits quite unlike any other steroid."
"Trenbolone Acetate is also a phenomenal off-season bulking steroid. When we refer to this hormonal compound as versatile, that is truly an accurate statement. There are very few anabolic steroids that can promote mass like Trenbolone Acetate. More importantly, the effects of Trenbolone Acetate in this regard are not only strong but are far cleaner than most traditional bulking steroids. This hormone will not and cannot promote water retention, meaning each and every pound of weight gained due to use will be lean muscle mass"
At Chris, Thanks Man
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10-11-2018, 01:16 AM #46Junior Member
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At Back in Black, ..... Jesus so what is it about Tren that is "that" bad I dunno ?? .... so damn damn and I was in a good mood lol .. no one said anything about Tren until I did late last night, damn!!
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10-11-2018, 01:18 AM #47Junior Member
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And I did read the link you posted, twice! ... Damn x 3 x 4 x 5 ughhhhh!!! Ok am off gym cardio 60' on empty stomach, got my CLEN in as always .. ah fawk damn!
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10-11-2018, 01:50 AM #48
GG, also from the tren profile:
All anabolic steroids suppress natural testosterone production, but the rate of suppression varies greatly from one steroid to the next. In the case of Tren, it will be more than significant. It will be nearly impossible not to fall into a low testosterone state without the inclusion of exogenous testosterone. Include exogenous testosterone during your cycle and this problem is solved.
Tren is an extremely efficient hormone, but for the majority of people it isn't an ideal.choice for a first cycle.
Just go with a plain test only cycle for your.first run, IMHO. Now that is my opinion, some people think otherwise, but not me. You will have to look at the information you've been presented and make your own decision. Personally, I would go the conservative route my first time running a cycle.Last edited by almostgone; 10-11-2018 at 09:27 AM.
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10-11-2018, 01:55 AM #49
Another suggestion for you is since you only want to get a "little" bigger is to either dose citrulline and L: arginine preworkout or Cialis. You will get a very nice pump but it won't be true muscle growth, just increased blood flow to the muscles.
If.you go that route, I would ditch the clen .There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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10-11-2018, 05:00 AM #50Junior Member
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At almostgone, Thank You man you ace ...... Def if gone down with Tren I'ld never take it w/o use of Test, and proper PCT and all ...
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10-11-2018, 05:55 AM #51
Its time for a ban this is a member that has been banned.
I been getting pm's from the same one. They are here to stir shit and be a smartass.
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10-11-2018, 07:01 AM #52Junior Member
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AT Obs ?? me bro ? ... You confusing with somebody else brah,... I never ever joined any BB forums in my all life
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10-11-2018, 08:38 AM #54Junior Member
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Am doing loads reading,.. Tren sounds amazing guys but yes for a 1st cycle is a bit much am guessing .. so so far after re re reading my 2 pages thread for today I conclude Testosterone Cypionate at least I convinced myself to inject me something in lol
Ok re editing this:
Test C on 16 weeks at 500mg a week injected once + loads Omega 3, 6, 9 x 6 soft gels day
alongside HCG 250iu every 4 days
PCT started 10 days later using HCG daily at a dose of 1,000iu’s per day for 10 days straight (Test C being a large ester based steroid )
Then starting SERM therapy using both Nolvadex & Clomid:
Week 1-2: Clomid 100mg per day
Week 1-2: Nolvadex 40mg per day
Week 3-4: Clomid 50mg per day
Week 3-4: Nolvadex 20mg per day
20 weeks off (the length of my total cycle including PCT) then cycling again on something perhaps this time like Tren ..
Guys am I missing anything here ?? I talk for the ones who guided me toward Test alone cycle but anyone else of course would be welcome to offer a precious input
Peace,
Ps I will next put out my diet as it will be like when cycling ..Last edited by GGTop; 10-11-2018 at 12:12 PM.
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10-11-2018, 12:24 PM #55Junior Member
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12:00pm
BJORG Mais Choco Wafers 200Grs
966 Calories
13Grs Protéines
42Grs Fats
NATURE Yogurt 250Grs
96 Calories
11Grs Protéines
ON Optimum Nutrition 1 Scoop
107 Calories
22Grs Protéines
Flaxseed 15Grs
75 Calories
3Grs Protéines
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Turkey or Chicken or Fish or Red Meat 200Grs
242 Calories
42Grs Protéines
5:00pm
Quaker Oats 100Grs
375 Calories
11Grs Protéines
ON Optimum Nutrition 1 Scoop
107 Calories
22Grs Protéines
Honey 30Grs
90 Calories
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Quaker Oats 100Grs
375 Calories
11Grs Protéines
ON Optimum Nutrition 1 Scoop
107 Calories
22Grs Protéines
Honey 30Grs
90 Calories
ON Optimum Nutrition 2 Scoops
214 Calories
44Grs Protéines
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Turkey or Chicken or Fish or Red Meat 100Grs
121 Calories
21Grs Protéines
Cauliflower 500Grs
110 Calories
10Grs Protéines
Mushrooms 200Grs
28 Calories
3Grs Protéines
TOTAL INTAKE Cal 3103 / PRO. 235Grs
1827 (Basal Metabolism) + 800 (Cardio, Daily, Weights) = Cal 2627 Spent
Cal 3103 - Cal 2627 = +476 CalLast edited by GGTop; 10-11-2018 at 12:41 PM.
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10-11-2018, 01:24 PM #59Junior Member
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At Back in Black, mate u gotta cut me some slack here, 3 or 4 of you from the start suggested Test only cycle so dont come on patronising me. Jesus.
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10-11-2018, 01:32 PM #60
If it takes a few scoops of whey to meet macros, it's not a big deal.
I'd say you'd do well with that diet hard training and some test
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10-11-2018, 01:37 PM #61Junior Member
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10-11-2018, 02:06 PM #63
And you have had the thread to follow as perfect a first cycle as you can get but you want to change it. That’s your prerogative but the more you try and change the less help you are likely to get. You have gone from an oral to tren for a first cycle in no time at all.
Oh, and you know if I was patronising you. I’m trying to steer you in the right direction.
BTW, you look much better that most people who start cycles so your diet clearly works for you. Often 20% of my protein intake is from shakes. It is what it is - if I had time and energy to reduce that I would (and have) made the change.
Your protein intake is fine. What are the other macro toatals?Last edited by Back In Black; 10-11-2018 at 02:12 PM.
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10-11-2018, 02:14 PM #64
Hey if it’s workin for you keep up the good work. Your avatar shows that it is so I stand corrected. Personally I’ve seen much better muscle growth since I’ve cut my drinks out and just ate more meat. My girlfriend is wanting to go completely vegan. She competes in physique. Would you mind posting or pming me a good powder or site that I could use to get her going in the direction she wants? She can’t handle whey protein. Messes her up bad. Sorry about hijacking this thread but it would mean a lot to her
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10-11-2018, 02:16 PM #65Junior Member
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And am gonna say it one more time: that link was an offer to one opinion or two. Still representing a minority in choice and nature of guidance as the offer on Test only cycle was represented by more than one or two persons .. logic would tell me to go for people who in majority, trough their trials and errors in life, offer an alternative to a first choice.
As simple as that mate.
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10-11-2018, 02:27 PM #68
No way you’re 37. Dude. Those people you say are in the majority usually don’t come back and post I ran tren on my first cycle and now I’m on trt for life. Or now I have ed. If the majority of people jumped off a bridge you would follow because the majority did it. Stop being a sheep and following. Black is trying to help your hard headed ass.
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10-11-2018, 02:47 PM #72Junior Member
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So you saying I been miss guided ? You do know I came here for guidance not knowing anything dont you ? This is the all point of joining a forum to make connections with seasoned users to have and perceive different opinions. Black has his opinion (which I read twice) and we now understand each others so you dont need to involved him. It is all settled down. Let's not stir anything that doesn't need to.
Furthermore I done my own researches and Test C is perfect for what I am looking at so me being a "sheep" doesn't really work well into this context mate.Last edited by GGTop; 10-11-2018 at 02:59 PM.
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10-12-2018, 12:45 PM #74Junior Member
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Good evening All
On the instruction form of HCG it is noted "use the reconstituted solution immediately after preparation" and in big letters as quoted: NOT TO BE FROZEN so .. am a bit lost here 'cose if I use 250 i.u. every 4 days then how do I store the rest for the next injections ?? ........
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10-12-2018, 02:02 PM #76Junior Member
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At God, Thank You man .. of course does make sense.
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10-12-2018, 02:02 PM #77Junior Member
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Am ready to place an order ..
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At Couchlockd, May I ask you why ? Interesting ...
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