Inject low volumes more often to reduce PIP?

[McGregor]

Should i inject low volume of stuff more often to reduce PIP? I get unbearable pain from injecting 3 cc of test enanthate injected once a week. I've tried 1 cc of sustanon and hated every second of it. What should i do?

[< <Samson> >]

All depends

Pick your poison


I vary all over the place, I'll go QD for months at a time - then, inject once almost every two weeks


Takes time - it's an acquired taste

[GearHeaded]

spot inject with slin pins. 1cc biceps, 1cc tris, delts, pecs, etc..

[ghettoboyd]

Should i inject low volume of stuff more often to reduce PIP? I get unbearable pain from injecting 3 cc of test enanthate injected once a week. I've tried 1 cc of sustanon and hated every second of it. What should i do?

are you new to this?...what I mean is is this your first cycle?...3ml of anything could hurt you that's a lot of volume for one injection spot if you arnt used to it...also what is the concentration of your gear? how much mg are in each ml?...sustanon will hurt you regardless cus of the prop in it again if you are sensitive to it...

[McGregor]

Testosterone Enanthate - 250 mg per ml
It's not my first cycle. I'm blasting and cruising. I've tried injecting 4 cc's in my glutes, 3 cc's in my glutes, 2 cc's and the less i inject the less it hurts. The pain is really ruining my life quality (can't lift, can't sit on my right side, can't sleep, walking awkward).
Injected 1 cc of test e yesterday and didn't get any pain today. Also the test flu i get from every injection is really ruining my training and i skip too many workouts.

[Arcânn]

Testosterone Enanthate - 250 mg per ml
It's not my first cycle. I'm blasting and cruising. I've tried injecting 4 cc's in my glutes, 3 cc's in my glutes, 2 cc's and the less i inject the less it hurts. The pain is really ruining my life quality (can't lift, can't sit on my right side, can't sleep, walking awkward).
Injected 1 cc of test e yesterday and didn't get any pain today. Also the test flu i get from every injection is really ruining my training and i skip too many workouts.

Based on what I know, test flu just means you're having a bad reaction to the oil or ester that's used. Some people seem to get used to it and it goes away, others have to completely switch what they're using.

[Couchlockd]

Testosterone Enanthate - 250 mg per ml
It's not my first cycle. I'm blasting and cruising. I've tried injecting 4 cc's in my glutes, 3 cc's in my glutes, 2 cc's and the less i inject the less it hurts. The pain is really ruining my life quality (can't lift, can't sit on my right side, can't sleep, walking awkward).
Injected 1 cc of test e yesterday and didn't get any pain today. Also the test flu i get from every injection is really ruining my training and i skip too many workouts.

So you're injecting damn near a half a vial of test every week in one pin?

I would definitely rotate those shots put 2 milliliters in one of your ass cheeks put two milliliters in one of your quads or put a milliliter in each ass cheek in the milliliter in each quad or delt

Also what is the lab that you're using because if 1 cc doesn't hurt 4 CC shouldn't hurt either

I was doing 3 and 1/2 CC's my last cycle but it was a bunch of different compounds but I never had pain from it

[McGregor]

Balkan Pharmaceuticals. I've been using their test e since june.

[GearHeaded]

Balkan Pharmaceuticals. I've been using their test e since june.

you've been running their test for nearly 5 months and your just now complaining of Test flu and PIP ?

[McGregor]

I used to inject 2 cc a week (1 cc on two seperate days) and it wasn't that bad. I've upped the dose and it got really bad.

[AlphaMindz]

Should i inject low volume of stuff more often to reduce PIP? I get unbearable pain from injecting 3 cc of test enanthate injected once a week. I've tried 1 cc of sustanon and hated every second of it. What should i do?

I've used Balkan gear back in the day and never had a prob with it. My guess is that your PIP has nothing to do with the gear but the way you're injecting it. I've posted on this subject before so not gonna repeat the whole story but in short I had a buddy who always complained of PIP and then at some point we were on the SAME gear so I said "let me see how you'reinjecting this shit" and sure enough he was going super slow and his hand was shaking the whole time!

The fact that you're doing all 3 cc's at once lends credence to this theory as you have more time to move the needle around while trying to inject 3 ml's of oil.

My suggestion is to do 1 cc eod which is what I do, even with enanthate (this way you have stable levels and if you add short esters you can just add to your test shots) much simpler this way.

GH also has a good suggestions using slin pins then you can inject pretty much anywhere you want but you'll wanna run em under hot water cause it's hard to push oil out of a tiny gauge needle like that but minimal scar tissue build up over time so if you're in this for the long haul (don't see the point in NOT being in it for the long haul, better to just stay natty in that case IMO) you'll have far less complications with hardened injection sites from scar tissue.

Lastly, shooting less oil at once reduces the actual time that the needle is in the muscle which reduces the odds of you moving it around and causing yourself this pain! I don't know for a fact but I'd be willing to bet that's what you prob is.

Give it a try and let us know if there's any improvement!

[McGregor]

Okay thank you all! I will rotate right and left glute and i hope that i will be fine this time.

[GearHeaded]

Okay thank you all! I will rotate right and left glute and i hope that i will be fine this time.

if all your pinning is your glutes, then you'll build up scar tissue much faster and have even more issues down the road. definitely look into rotating your injection sites

[McGregor]

Aren't quad injections very painful?

[GearHeaded]

Aren't quad injections very painful?

for me, lats are the least painful. quads are not too bad, but with things like tren suspension or test prop they can get a bit sore even several inches away from the injection spot (from the gear migrating down your quad)

[McGregor]

Is tren ace painful like prop? I want to give it a try.

[AlphaMindz]

The "idea" of injecting lats was kinda scary for me at first TBH, BUT it's super smooth. It's a large muscle and the oil can disperse nicely.

Never liked quad shots, personally, although several of my close friends hit their quads as their primary spot. If you do hit em, go on the outside sweep not inside! (Too many nerves and veins).

For me, I'll rotate glutes, lats, delts, and recently started hitting bi's as to create an inflammatory response which has helped the peak. Site injection won't actually make the muscle grow BUT it does create more mind muscle connection when training that muscle and the oil DOES build up a little bit to create a volumizing effect which has helped my bi's come up (almost like synthol but to a lesser degree). If you do attempt this please keep in mind there are 2 bicep heads so inject equally into each head so you keep everything nice and symmetrical.

[McGregor]

Isn't site injection dangerous?

[Couchlockd]

Isn't site injection dangerous?

Anytime your injecting, you are site injecting.

You may be site site or spot injecting glutes, quads, delts, bi's, lats or tri's.

[Test Monsterone]

The "idea" of injecting lats was kinda scary for me at first TBH, BUT it's super smooth. It's a large muscle and the oil can disperse nicely.

Never liked quad shots, personally, although several of my close friends hit their quads as their primary spot. If you do hit em, go on the outside sweep not inside! (Too many nerves and veins).

For me, I'll rotate glutes, lats, delts, and recently started hitting bi's as to create an inflammatory response which has helped the peak. Site injection won't actually make the muscle grow BUT it does create more mind muscle connection when training that muscle and the oil DOES build up a little bit to create a volumizing effect which has helped my bi's come up (almost like synthol but to a lesser degree). If you do attempt this please keep in mind there are 2 bicep heads so inject equally into each head so you keep everything nice and symmetrical.

I inject quads but it has to be on the outside of the leg, the syringe is parallel to the ground when sitting down. If I go even an inch higher it’s extremely painful. There is only like 1-2 inches where I can inject without feeling anything. Even the top of the quad is very painful.

[AlphaMindz]

Isn't site injection dangerous?

Any time we stick a needle into our muscle it can be dangerous IF we don't know what we're doing and don't take the proper precautions (using sterile supplies and sterilizing injection site).

But like Couchlockd said, and it's a good point, anywhere you inject is technically a "site", although the phrase "site injection" usually refers to muscles we're trying to enhance for competition like bi's, tri's, delts, upper chest, and calves.

But to specifically answer your question, no, it's no more dangerous than going in your glute.

[McGregor]

Can i inject my biceps/delts to make them look bigger?

[Test Monsterone]

Can i inject my biceps/delts to make them look bigger?

Ask Gregg Valentino on YouTube. Although, he was injecting bottles upon bottles a week into his arms, with a lot of built up scar tissue which made his arms huge. He claims he now has a ton of loose skin because of it.

Some people say you can’t some say you can. I’m not sure, but I believe if site injection works, it’s not because of just pure muscle, but because of scar tissue and inflammation.

[McGregor]

I'm going to stick with glutes for now 250 mg eod and 40-60 mg of dbol .

[waltr64]

You may want to try a higher mg/ml of Test e. I am currently using 400mg/ml because I want to just use 1ml needle. There is some pip with the higher mg doses but not too bad.

[Couchlockd]

Ask Gregg Valentino on YouTube. Although, he was injecting bottles upon bottles a week into his arms, with a lot of built up scar tissue which made his arms huge. He claims he now has a ton of loose skin because of it.

Some people say you can’t some say you can. I’m not sure, but I believe if site injection works, it’s not because of just pure muscle, but because of scar tissue and inflammation.

I used to preffer quads only

Now i preffer delts. Second is biceps, third is quads.

[Windex]

Is tren ace painful like prop? I want to give it a try.

Whether or not Tren Ace is painful to inject should not be the deciding factor on using Trenbolone .

[< <Samson> >]

^ if any compound gets too painful, cut it with GSO - as long as it's not painful from being dirty

[McGregor]

1 cc of test e feels great. It's slightly sore if i twist my leg but it doesn't ruin my day. Should i rotate glutes and do 1 cc eod?

[DozerSoldier]

Get higher concentration gear such as 300mg/ml.
Pin more frequently.
Mon. morning and Thurs. night (E3.5D)

I have pinned 300mg/ml Test E 150mg ED with 29G 1/2" slin pin (1050mg)

I have pinned Test E 1ml mixed with Deca 300 1ml (2ml) every Mon. morning Wed. morning. Fri. night
Mon. 2ml left glute
Wed. 1ml left quad and 1ml right quad
Fri. 2ml right glute
Then 1ml each delt... and on and on
and on and on (900mg Test e and 900mg Deca)
That's 6ml spread over the week.

Once you have pinned 80mg Tren ace ED, using 1ml luer lock with 27G 1", you can get pretty creative with rotating injection sites.
You have your whole vastus lateralis (outer quad) to pin.

I do lower dose blasts now.

I would hate to be using 250mg/ml.
I brew my own gear, so I can make it the concentration I want.

[McGregor]

I order from bulgarian websites and they don't have 300 mg per ml bro.

[AlphaMindz]

Can i inject my biceps/delts to make them look bigger?

Yes but this is more of an advanced approach and unless one is competing then there really isn't a good enough reason IMHO to mess with site enhancement. I just shared that I've added bi's as an injection site to help bring them up and it IS working although it's subtle. I shared that more for guys with the same ambitions as myself. For casual lifters and guys just trying to look good and be in shape I wouldn't say it's worth it to start messing with that.

[GearHeaded]

for site enhancement using AAS-- the volume of the oil and the local inflammation can help stretch the muscle fascia and slightly bring up a lagging body part . BUT if your really committed to using site enhancement then your going to want to use non-ester based AAS in the spot your tying to bring up.. like Tren suspension, test suspension, Winstrol . Being there is no oil or ester the compound is attached to it can be absorbed directly into the tissue it is injected. where as with an oil based product it gets injected as a 'depot' and enzymes need to break the ester down to get the compound itself to slowly absorb into the blood stream.
Also things like PGF-2 can be injected directly into a muscle group to bring that body part up and promote local growth.

[McGregor]

I remember watching Bostin Loyd injecting test supension in his biceps and synthol in his upper pecs.

[GearHeaded]

I remember watching Bostin Loyd injecting test supension in his biceps and synthol in his upper pecs.

thats a pretty normal protocol for these guys. some of them get a little more advanced then that and they will mix their steroids with their synthol and some BA and mix it all together in a 50ML vial and site inject the mix on a daily basis.

[redz]

I’m the opposite love me some 3cc shots. Sunday I popped 850mg in my left quad (250 test e, 600 deca ). No pip at all in fact even with higher concentration gear I don’t get pip usually. I equate this to quality gear.

[diesel101]

I have a shaky hand so for me its less painful to inject fast instead of slow like most people do.
For myself pip always depends on my injecting method not the gear.

[McGregor]

Update: the pip hit me hard even after only 1 cc. I don’t know if I can go through this. It’s interfering with my life.

[Couchlockd]

Update: the pip hit me hard even after only 1 cc. I don’t know if I can go through this. It’s interfering with my life.

You will be alright the PIP won't be bad after a few

Hang in there man you'll enjoy it

[McGregor]

Thanks for the reply bro. I’ve been thinking about injecting even less - half a cc in each cheek. I will have to try this out I guess.