Hcg..... educate me please...,

**Primetime1396** · 10-20-2018, 03:19 PM

Recently got some hcg . I was told I could take it while cycling. I have but I almost feel
Like I had more water retention when i did. I’m have no knowledge whatsoever on hcg. Can it be used to lean out while cycling? Or is it going to naturally cause more water retention? Also can there be a strength increase from hcg?

**Bio-Active** · 10-20-2018, 03:26 PM

List out exactly your cycle. All compounds and dosages. Your likely holding water cause hcg will cause more aromatize

**Primetime1396** · 10-20-2018, 03:33 PM

Recently got some hcg . I was told I could take it while cycling. I have but I almost feel
Like I had more water retention when i did. I’m have no knowledge whatsoever on hcg. Can it be used to lean out while cycling? Or is it going to naturally cause more water retention? Also can there be a strength increase from hcg?

**Bio-Active** · 10-20-2018, 03:59 PM

I responded to your other post. Rather then making duplicate posts just bump your old post to the top fir more views

**Test Monsterone** · 10-20-2018, 04:44 PM

HCG will keep your balls producing testosterone and not shrinking. So yes, if you are on a cycle and your balls keep producing test, theoretically you could be converting more testosterone to estrogen. I am running 400mg a week of test + HCG at 500 iu/week and I hardly need an AI.

**GearHeaded** · 10-20-2018, 05:00 PM

nothing wrong with holding a little bit of water anyways, unless your getting ready to step on stage.

**Primetime1396** · 10-20-2018, 09:34 PM

I’m not actually pinning hcg at the moment. But I’m taking a shot every 3-4 days. Shot consists of 1cc of sciroxx hexadex 450. Which is a blend of 6 different tests. 1cc of vutrex tren a. I don’t know the mg. I’d have to look. And 1cc of vutrex Winn. All in one syringe.

**Primetime1396** · 10-20-2018, 09:40 PM

I know I should switch it up on occasion. Which I try to do. But I seem to react a lot better to shorter esters to stay lean. To get really lean like in my profile pic I was taking 1cc of prop 1cc of tren a, and 1cc of primo every 3-4 days. With 5 10mg tabs of Winn a day. I was also doing hot yoga once a week which helped a lot. I haven’t been doing yoga anymore due to buying a new place and all the work I’ve been doing there. And I don’t really do cardio.

**GearHeaded** · 10-20-2018, 09:44 PM

HCG is an O.C.T. (on cycle therapy) and a P.C.T. (post cycle therapy ) drug. in a nut-shell (pun intended), all its doing is mimicking LH (luteinizing hormone) which is going to get your Testicles active and tying to produce testosterone , rather then completely shutting down.
its going to help you recover natty test production and PCT.

its not going to give you any performance or physique enhancement benefits. its merely for your testes and thats it.
if your a guy that stays on gear most the year and doesn't PCT, and you don't care if your testes are shut down, then it doesn't serve much of a purpose.

**waltr64** · 10-20-2018, 09:56 PM

I've been on HCG for years as part of my TRT so running it with Test is fine, however if you are cycling it might better be saved until you are trying to restart your testes when you are finished, but since you have already mixed this one finish it off. It starts to lose strength after it is mixed even keeping it in fridge (where it should be). Use all of it with in 60 days of mixing. But back to your question can HCG cause water retention, yes. Will it increase your strength while on cycle, not nearly as much as the other stuff you are taking if at all. Can it increase your strength while not on cycle, most likely yes because it should increase your natural testosterone production. Can it be used to lean out, that is questionable - many would say yes and some doctors prescribe the HCG diet but some research I have read say's it is bunk for diet. I still take it when I remember because it makes my balls feel more full but that is about all it does for me these days.

**almostgone** · 10-21-2018, 02:47 AM

Merged the duplicate thread into this one

**tarmyg** · 10-21-2018, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Primetime1396

I’m not actually pinning hcg at the moment. But I’m taking a shot every 3-4 days. Shot consists of 1cc of sciroxx hexadex 450. Which is a blend of 6 different tests. 1cc of vutrex tren a. I don’t know the mg. I’d have to look. And 1cc of vutrex Winn. All in one syringe.

Not entirely sure what this blend is. Google was not much help. What is your cycle history? And are you taking any ancillaries during this cycle?

**Test Monsterone** · 10-21-2018, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

HCG is an O.C.T. (on cycle therapy) and a P.C.T. (post cycle therapy ) drug. in a nut-shell (pun intended), all its doing is mimicking LH (luteinizing hormone) which is going to get your Testicles active and tying to produce testosterone , rather then completely shutting down.
its going to help you recover natty test production and PCT.

its not going to give you any performance or physique enhancement benefits. its merely for your testes and thats it.
if your a guy that stays on gear most the year and doesn't PCT, and you don't care if your testes are shut down, then it doesn't serve much of a purpose.

I'm mainly taking HCG for long-term fertility reasons. Yes, I like that my balls don't shrink, but I'm trying to keep the functionality there for when I do want to start a family.

Originally Posted by waltr64

if you are cycling it might better be saved until you are trying to restart your testes when you are finished

Not sure about that. New research seems to say that if the leydig cells remain dormant for too long (due to being shut down/ no LH), they will have a hard time coming back, and I'm not talking about just testosterone - I'm talking about fertility. The best measure is to take HCG throughout your cycle/TRT to preserve testicle functionality if you one day want to have kids.

** I've also heard to cycle off HCG for a month a couple of times a year to let the body re-sensitize to the HCG, but I've not seen any research on this.

**Primetime1396** · 10-21-2018, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by almostgone

Merged the duplicate thread into this one

You guys are the best. Gearheaded, you literally covered every question I had. Thoroughly. Can anyone recommend a proper dosage with the cycle I’m on? Dosage and how often to pin? I also like the idea of it possibly reducing estrogen levels. I don’t get bad side effects as far as gyno. A little bit but not much. Before sciroxx’s demise I loved their arimidex . It was perfect. But since their demise I’m currently in the process of finding a new lab. I have access locally to injectables, but still prefer to find my own connect. Thanks again for all your insight. I’m not too tech savvy, but since joining the forum I’ve become so much more educated. Thank you too all of you

**Test Monsterone** · 10-21-2018, 10:12 AM

~700 units of HCG per week were found to replace endogenous production of testosterone according to a study.

**Arcânn** · 10-21-2018, 02:56 PM

I didn't see anyone cover this so I'll just throw this in there (sorry it it's been said and I missed it), but taking HCG during your cycle supposedly also makes the transition into PCT and the PCT process in general a lot easier. Less of a crash. But that's if it's taken DURING cycle, not during PCT.

**Bio-Active** · 10-21-2018, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Arcânn

I didn't see anyone cover this so I'll just throw this in there (sorry it it's been said and I missed it), but taking HCG during your cycle supposedly also makes the transition into PCT and the PCT process in general a lot easier. Less of a crash. But that's if it's taken DURING cycle, not during PCT.

Because keeping the testies functioning makes moving into pct a cruise. Your body will start to produce lh right away after the exogenous test levels drop but the testies starting to function after shut down takes longer. This is why administering hcg during your cycle makes more sense. Your testies never completely shut down. Hcg dosed at 250-500 iu 2 x ew should be plenty for your cycle discontinue the hcg 3 days prior to starting your pct

**Primetime1396** · 10-21-2018, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

Because keeping the testies functioning makes moving into pct a cruise. Your body will start to produce lh right away after the exogenous test levels drop but the testies starting to function after shut down takes longer. This is why administering hcg during your cycle makes more sense. Your testies never completely shut down. Hcg dosed at 250-500 iu 2 x ew should be plenty for your cycle discontinue the hcg 3 days prior to starting your pct

Thanks guys. I appreciate the info.