First Cycle Questions (Test Prop kickstart etc)

[wizzy]

Hey guys, my stats are
19 y/o (one of the few fully developed ones, all tests conducted blood work xrays etc)
185lbs 13% BF
5'11-6'
My gym lifts for reference: 225lbs bench, 500lbs deadlift and 405lbs squat.

I was going to run the basic cycle of 500mg test-e a week with arimidex, but I am a bit conflicted as side effects take longer to notice on test-e compared to prop right? My mothers family suffer from hairloss when they all seem to reach 45-60, while the women are all fine and my fathers family all have hair well into 80s. I've got finastride, nizoral shampoo and minoxidil on hand in case I do suffer from MPD (doubtful as I have very thick long wavy hair). My question is how would I go about using test prop to kickstart the cycle?

week 1-4 Test prop 100mg EOD
week 1-12 Test E 250mg Mon-Thurs 500mg total

Doing that wouldn't I have too much testostrone in my system between weeks 3-4? Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks


EDIT: Forgot to mention but I plan to run a proper PCT Week 14 onwards of clomid 75/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/20/20/20

[GearHeaded]

19 is way to young to shut off your natural and optimal test production . think about it, your only a few short years removed from puberty. You've had high levels of testosterone producing balls for only a few years. do you really want to castrate yourself already?

regarding the cycle-
the way you have test front loaded with test prop is pretty much spot on. however its totally un-needed for a first cycle.
and no your not going to have 'too much test' by front loading, cause your still waiting for the Enanthate ester to build up while your running the prop (and 'too much test' is kinda the whole reason your injecting it in the first place)

[kelkel]

What's the rush?
And don't even think about Finasteride at your age.

[wizzy]

I think I would prefer prop as side effects are present at a quicker rate and coming off prop requires less bridging time for PCT. Injecting isn't a problem as fathers a doctor and needles don't hurt me. I'm considering ditching the test-e altogether and run prop only. Finasteride is just present at hand incase I suffer from shedding, I don't plan to run it unless absolutely required.

[wizzy]

My test levels currently are at lower-end of normal and I've finished puberty at the age of 15 (x-rays and bloods). Do you think for someone that isn't suffering pain or troubles with needels and cycle cost isn't a big deal should run prop only cycle instead?

[McGregor]

I'm 19 years old too. Just blast 500 mg of test enanthate and don't use anything else unless you need it. Here's what i've learned so far:
1 - If you want to avoid post injection pain split up your injection dosage in multiple muscle groups (right ventroglute, left ventroglute). Inject small amounts of it more often.
2 - Don't use anti estrogens unless you need them because you might suffer from erectile dysfunction

[ghettoboyd]

honestly this is ridiculous at age 19...10 years from now you are going to wish you never heard of steroids when your not able to use your dick...unless bb is going to be your career don't even think of it...

[Arcânn]

19 is definitely way too young. You might be finished with puberty, as most are by your age, but that doesn't mean you've finished developing. Most don't really finish developing until 25-26. You may not physically grow anymore (I stopped growing at 17) but your natural hormones are still hard at work developing you mentally, and running AAS before 26 will likely stunt that. But I remember being 19. It was only 9 years ago. Nobody could tell me shit until I was about 24-25 and realized I was, on fact, stupid throughout my early 20's. We all are.

At the very least, it looks like you've done your homework on this subject, moreso than most your age. All we can do is advise you. What you decide to do is 100% your decision, but more likely than not, it'll be a decision you regret in a few years. I considered AAS the first time when I was 22-23 and now that I'm 28, I'm REALLY glad I didn't follow through with it at that age.

[Windex]

My test levels currently are at lower-end of normal and I've finished puberty at the age of 15 (x-rays and bloods). Do you think for someone that isn't suffering pain or troubles with needels and cycle cost isn't a big deal should run prop only cycle instead?

This is an ignorant statement and shows your lack of understanding of the different types of development the body goes through.

X ray and blood work do not show you that your growth plates are still developing

X ray and blood work do not give you any indication of brain and endocrine development

X ray and blood work have nothing to do with genetic influence of side effects

Nobody is going to tell you to cycle with Prop at 19 because your idea is stupid and providing you validation of your stupid idea would be irresponsible and disrespectful of a member of this board. That's the reality of the situation - accept or ignore and suffer the consequences.

[Jerry2020]

I side with Arcann. I am 28 in my second cycle and waited til 27 for my first cycle and I’m very glad I did. I went to the gym religiously since I was 17, waited 10 years before doing a cycle.

Also, if you plan to run prop for a first cycle then think again. Have a look at my second cycle thread in the experiences section where I literally wrote about this yesterday. I did not have ANY pip first cycle with Test E. I got a week into this second cycle and almost couldn’t walk as I am frontloading with prop this cycle and it’s a whole other beast compared to enanthate. I’m past the prop front load now and am looking forward to a pip free rest of the cycle, but I’m so glad I didn’t do it for my first cycle.