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11-15-2018, 09:44 AM #1New Member
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Starting My First Cycle Next Week
Hello! This forum has been amazing as far as its members and the information I’ve found!
I’ve gotten my dieting down, my lifting regimen as well as ancillaries that need to be taken during a cycle.
I’ve been lifting 14 years on and off and consistently the past 4 years. Im 30, 5’11 192lbs.
I’m going to start on 500/mg of test E per week. I’ve never gone through a cycle. I understand that with your first cycle it should mostly consist of Test E, however, is it possible or would it be looked down upon to introduce dbol into the cycle after a few weeks?
Possibly in weeks 3-4?
I want to take advantage of my first cycle as best as possible, however I want it to be safe as well.
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11-15-2018, 09:57 AM #2BANNED
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500mg of test for a first cycle, there really is not going to be any need for Dbol in there. You'll get a ton of growth out of that much test.
I'm not one of these guys that is opposed to running multiple compounds or adding in orals to a first cycle.
something like 300mg test + 25mg winny. or 250mg test + 50mg var. etc. . are all fine for first cycles. but 500mg test plus Dbol is going to give you more then you need (and I mean 'more' in a bad way). sides will be difficult to control and estrogen will likely be an issue (and I'm a fan of high estrogen cycles for growth .. but not for a new user).
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11-15-2018, 10:27 AM #3
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11-15-2018, 11:08 AM #4New Member
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Thanks GH and KK. Makes sense to keep it simple.
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11-17-2018, 12:17 AM #5
U can put Dbol in there. But week 1 to 4. As a kickstart.
Main reason wy we dont suggest this is experience. Many firts timers dont know shit and messing with multiple components is dangerous when u dont know shit.
But if you are experienced and knows about bloodpressure, liverenxymes etc it should be ok.
So if u can tell me if hct and rbc are the same thing or not, i really dont see an important reason why u must avoid a kickstart for your first run.
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11-26-2018, 03:48 PM #6New Member
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Sorry started a new thread instead.
Last edited by livekhaos; 11-26-2018 at 04:25 PM.
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11-26-2018, 04:51 PM #7
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11-27-2018, 12:08 AM #8Associate Member
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You guys have loosened up a lot on this subject. A few years ago when I joined the forum newbies were jumped all over if they said they might run their first cycle with 2 compounds. My advice to you is basically what they all told me when I started which really was good advice. You should only add one new compound each cycle. That way if you’re having a bad reaction to something you will have a good idea which compound is causing it. 500 per week of test alone is going to give you some estrogen to deal with. Dbol is gonna create a ton more estrogen on top of it. You may want to see how you handle the test first. You may be prone to gyno but you don’t know yet. Adding Dbol would make things a lot tougher if you are.
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Another reason to avoid dbol at the moment is that it basically makes you stronger overnight. Combine that with a “new” frame thats never seen ped’s before, and your asking for an injury. The test will make u much stronger but atleast it wont be immediate.
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