Decided against orals

[Test Monsterone]

I’ve thought about it, and I don’t see the benefits of doing orals. I’m not trying to win any shows, I’m trying to achieve an optimal body composition over time, and with a solid diet and the help of exogenous testosterone. I think orals are like putting a NOS system in your car’s engine. Might make it faster, but will degrade the engine faster also.

I’ll stick to pinning and save my liver.

[Charlie67]

There's a lot of folks out there who agree with you, its a good way to go. I've run very few orals.. but I gotta be honest, the rapid strength increase from an occasional run of Dbol is exhilarating

Best,
C-

[redz]

It’s my last day of Dbol today running 75mg ed this is day 33. I haven’t touched dbol in quite some time, I do lover orals but I try not to use them too often though I have tried many lol.....methyl tren and halo were both very interesting but highly toxic compounds.

[GearHeaded]

most peoples diets, lifestyle, prescription and over the counter drug use is far far more taxing on the liver then oral steroids are.
most people sick in the hospital or with liver disease are people who have never even heard of a 17 alkalated anabolic steroid , let alone used them
(except for girls who went and got birth control pills at 16, some of them have been on a liver toxic hormone, ie, birth control, for years).
personally I don't think a little Var or Dbol run here and there is going to impact all that much in the grand scheme of things. especially when your limiting its use to only 6-8 weeks. some people are running liver toxic drugs daily for decades (I'm talking non steroid users)

[Test Monsterone]

most peoples diets, lifestyle, prescription and over the counter drug use is far far more taxing on the liver then oral steroids are.
most people sick in the hospital or with liver disease are people who have never even heard of a 17 alkalated anabolic steroid , let alone used them
(except for girls who went and got birth control pills at 16, some of them have been on a liver toxic hormone, ie, birth control, for years).
personally I don't think a little Var or Dbol run here and there is going to impact all that much in the grand scheme of things. especially when your limiting its use to only 6-8 weeks. some people are running liver toxic drugs daily for decades (I'm talking non steroid users)

Yeah I know what you mean. I already take blood pressure medicine (2 types) and various minerals/supplements. For all I know, these could also be damaging to the liver. On top of that I like drinking once in a blue moon. I tend to overdo it when I do drink, so I limit it to once a month or every few weeks.

So why add another liver stressor on top of that? Yeah maybe it’s fun to run orals and see quick results, but those results won’t last, but the liver damage sure will.

[GearHeaded]

Yeah I know what you mean. I already take blood pressure medicine (2 types) and various minerals/supplements. For all I know, these could also be damaging to the liver. On top of that I like drinking once in a blue moon. I tend to overdo it when I do drink, so I limit it to once a month or every few weeks.

So why add another liver stressor on top of that? Yeah maybe it’s fun to run orals and see quick results, but those results won’t last, but the liver damage sure will.

yeah I hear ya. no point in adding more stress if you don't need to. also plenty of non liver toxic oils out there to use, so really no need to go to the orals if don't need to.

on a side note: context is important. not everything is necessarily liver 'toxic' even though it may have that designation. example, VAR has been prescribed to people with alcoholic liver disease to help heal their liver. thats because VAR, even though a c17 steriod designated as 'liver toxic' has far more regenerative qualities to help heal the liver then it actually does damage (if that makes sense).
of course thats not at bodybuilding dosages.

[Wyatt 88]

I just finished Dbol as a pre-workout for my cycle 3 days ago and I feel better. Probably won't run it again. I can get liquid anavar, don't think that's as hard on your liver.

Maybe someone else can chime in on this?

[charger69]

I’ve thought about it, and I don’t see the benefits of doing orals. I’m not trying to win any shows, I’m trying to achieve an optimal body composition over time, and with a solid diet and the help of exogenous testosterone. I think orals are like putting a NOS system in your car’s engine. Might make it faster, but will degrade the engine faster also.

I’ll stick to pinning and save my liver.

You took my advice without me giving it. LOL
I wish more people would think like you.
I do want to mention that your liver does recover, but why if you are not going to compete. There will be people against this though.


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[Obs]

I never gave to much care to the safety side but I don't really care for oral steroids much.

Anadrol
Winny
Dbol

I think of the three dbol was my favorite.
Not really that necessary though.