What was your best cycle

[Octaneforce]

So of course every cycle may have different goals, but do you guys have a specific cycle that you remember being really significant? I know the first cycle is usually mind blowing for everyone but when i think back on my first cycle, i realize i didnt know enough about training and nutrition yet.

My 3rd cycle was test/npp/dbol . It was a very very wet combination but i put on so much mass. That was the cycle that made people suspicious, which is what we want right? I think the mass i gained from that cycle stayed with me the most. But im also learning how to eat more which alone makes a huge difference.

So what was your most mind blowing cycle?

[GearHeaded]

similar to you .. test, deca , dbol
and also , Ment, Tren , Mast, Npp (yep that was three 19 nors ran together)

[Obs]

That was my best run as well.
It was a long one though

[Octaneforce]

similar to you .. test, deca , dbol
and also , Ment, Tren, Mast, Npp (yep that was three 19 nors ran together)

What is ment? Ive heard of it but assumed it was an ester of tren

[Octaneforce]

Double post

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Test, Anadrol , Deca , DHB

[i_SLAM_cougars]

What is ment? Ive heard of it but assumed it was an ester of tren

Trestolone
It's oral Nandrolone

[< <Samson> >]

Sust, Mast Prop & Tren Ace - each at about a gram per week. . . . Def felt that one

[GearHeaded]

Trestolone
It's oral Nandrolone

Ment= trestalone
they've made it in oral form , but the good stuff is not oral its injectable (I've only seen the injectable versions available for the last several years)

its just another 19nor. was originally developed as a form of male birth control. but was discontinued cause of the negative side effects of gaining too much mass (guys in the study were putting on 10-15 pounds of LBM).

basically I've used it as a super estrogenic 19nor. its the estrogenic version of tren , so your going to get more size out of it

[Octaneforce]

Ment= trestalone
they've made it in oral form , but the good stuff is not oral its injectable (I've only seen the injectable versions available for the last several years)

its just another 19nor. was originally developed as a form of male birth control. but was discontinued cause of the negative side effects of gaining too much mass (guys in the study were putting on 10-15 pounds of LBM).

basically I've used it as a super estrogenic 19nor. its the estrogenic version of tren, so your going to get more size out of it

I like the sound of that

[Octaneforce]

Sust, Mast Prop & Tren Ace - each at about a gram per week. . . . Def felt that one

So almost 3 grams of shit per week? Zayum

[< <Samson> >]

So almost 3 grams of shit per week? Zayum

Yes

No shit


That shit felt intense

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Ment= trestalone
but was discontinued cause of the negative side effects of gaining too much mass (guys in the study were putting on 10-15 pounds of LBM).

Oh the horror...

[EDCG19]

Ment= trestalone
they've made it in oral form , but the good stuff is not oral its injectable (I've only seen the injectable versions available for the last several years)

its just another 19nor. was originally developed as a form of male birth control. but was discontinued cause of the negative side effects of gaining too much mass (guys in the study were putting on 10-15 pounds of LBM).

basically I've used it as a super estrogenic 19nor. its the estrogenic version of tren, so your going to get more size out of it

Would you say those are permanent gains?

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[GearHeaded]

Would you say those are permanent gains?

no not for the guys that took part in that study. the drug was likely pulled, then were given no PCT and no TRT, and they likely crashed and lost weight. in order for those gains to be more permanent they would of needed to be 'actualized' over a period of time.

people often forget that LBM , lean body mass, gains account for both an increase in muscle tissue itself plus and increase in inter cellular water retention. . the inter cellular water retention that came from taking the Ment would have been 'actualized' into permanent gains had they stayed on the MENT or some other AAS over longer periods of time so that the 'infrastructure' could have been established to keep those gains.
see this for more details on what that means
https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...pensation.html

[EDCG19]

no not for the guys that took part in that study. the drug was likely pulled, then were given no PCT and no TRT, and they likely crashed and lost weight. in order for those gains to be more permanent they would of needed to be 'actualized' over a period of time.

people often forget that LBM , lean body mass, gains account for both an increase in muscle tissue itself plus and increase in inter cellular water retention. . the inter cellular water retention that came from taking the Ment would have been 'actualized' into permanent gains had they stayed on the MENT or some other AAS over longer periods of time so that the 'infrastructure' could have been established to keep those gains.
see this for more details on what that means
https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...pensation.html

Thanks
Quick question why wouldn't they run TRT ? No shit their gains will wither away otherwise

So I have a question and dont want to make another topic about this
I'm wondering how much of your gains you can keep after cycle if you drop down to TRT doses and continue training the same way even if your PRs change
I dont run heavy cycles either and just TRT at various ranges so I can see how I react to higher test

How much of your gains do you think you can keep with proper training, nutrition

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[GearHeaded]

Thanks
Quick question why wouldn't they run TRT ? No shit their gains will wither away otherwise

So I have a question and dont want to make another topic about this
I'm wondering how much of your gains you can keep after cycle if you drop down to TRT doses and continue training the same way even if your PRs change
I dont run heavy cycles either and just TRT at various ranges so I can see how I react to higher test

How much of your gains do you think you can keep with proper training, nutrition

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pretty sure this original study was done in the late 60s. TRT wasn't really a thing back then. in fact most guys using AAS wouldn't TRT or PCT , they would just recover naturally over time.


as for how much of your gains you can keep and maintain after a cycle--

Keep in mind that most AAS, and supraphysiological levels of test, up regulate the bodies ability to store glycogen in the muscle cells, as well as upregulate CP production and Creatine storage and thus you can store much more water inter cellularly (inside the muscle). and muscle is mainly made up of water, so to a degree its 'real' muscle.

when coming off of gear and down to normal non supra-physiological levels, this enhanced ability to retain intercellular stores is diminished. so no matter what, you are going to lose something because of this. mainly your muscular fullness and hardness.
TRT will not maintain this super compensation effect.

but TRT will help maintain tissue. as it will act as an anti-catabolic . this is all person dependent.
for me personally , if I came off of all steroids for say a year, and just took a TRT dose of test at 200mg, but still trained then I believe I could maintain some but would drop down to about 190 pounds and 9% body fat (at best). thats at 5'9". even if I trained hard and ate like a beast I couldn't put on a whole lot more muscle then this. the TRT dose will just help me maintain this, and thats all, nothing more. imo.
On gear year round though , 215 pounds lean and still growing and getting leaner is possible for me.

someone else that has a lot bigger structure then me and who utilizes test a bit better then me , might be 250 pounds and lean on gear, then maintain 220 pounds off gear for a year and only on TRT.
again totally person dependent

[ScotchGuard02]

My best cycle was about my 4th with Test Prop/Tren A/Mast P for8 weeks. With a strict diet and hard training, I was able to get to 7% body fat and benched 225# 38 reps and 1RM at 425. That Tren stuff was amazing. I hated the sweats, insomnia, and general irritability. I'm glad it's over but it sure was fun to watch people's reaction when I go to the pool with the kids.

[charger69]

My best cycle was about my 4th with Test Prop/Tren A/Mast P for8 weeks. With a strict diet and hard training, I was able to get to 7% body fat and benched 225# 38 reps and 1RM at 425. That Tren stuff was amazing. I hated the sweats, insomnia, and general irritability. I'm glad it's over but it sure was fun to watch people's reaction when I go to the pool with the kids.

Time to compete in 2019 Scotch!


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[Capebuffalo]

My best cycle is always the one I just finished.

[Octaneforce]

My best cycle was about my 4th with Test Prop/Tren A/Mast P for8 weeks. With a strict diet and hard training, I was able to get to 7% body fat and benched 225# 38 reps and 1RM at 425. That Tren stuff was amazing. I hated the sweats, insomnia, and general irritability. I'm glad it's over but it sure was fun to watch people's reaction when I go to the pool with the kids.

Holy fuck how old were you? I pressed 335x2 followed by 225x20 today and thought i was a tough guy. FUCK i wanna be in the 400 club. Give me some tren

[mrthai]

10week cycle of: Tren A 500mg/w Test P 400mg/w