Help with Estradiol with recent exams

**slainrush** · 01-03-2019, 05:19 PM

Good evening, so now im with fresh E2 lab and wish some advices regarding increasing anastrazole dose/frequency.

Im on the 4th week cycle of Test E 500 mg/wk and Tren Ace 100 mg EOD and using Anastrozole 0,25mg EOD. My E2 exams today hitted 217 pg/ml 72h after my Test pin. Should i double the dose to 0,5 mg EOD or maintain the dose 0,25 mg and increase frequency to ED?

And a second question would be, after increasing dose or frequency of Anastrozole, how long should I wait to test E2 again?

**Friggnewtown** · 01-03-2019, 08:05 PM

If i were you I would up it to .5mg EOD no doubt with the realization that you might need 1mg EOD. Is this your first cycle? I'm curious because your adding tren to your mix which is definitely an AAS that may be better used with experience. Tren will also increase your prolactin levels, which can lead to prolactin induced gyno. You could also start on Nolvadex at 20mg for first three days then drop to 10mg until the cycle is over, if you can get your hands on Letrozole that will crush your estrogen levels almost immediately. As far as a wait time, I'm not sure when you'd want to check again but get your estrogen in check and I would not be surprised if others might say to drop the tren. the next step is dropping your cycle all together so you don't set yourself up with estrogen sides. I do not know your experience but considering your asking what some consider beginner questions while your using tren made me want to ask is this your fist cycle?

**GearHeaded** · 01-03-2019, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by slainrush

Good evening, so now im with fresh E2 lab and wish some advices regarding increasing anastrazole dose/frequency.

Im on the 4th week cycle of Test E 500 mg/wk and Tren Ace 100 mg EOD and using Anastrozole 0,25mg EOD. My E2 exams today hitted 217 pg/ml 72h after my Test pin. Should i double the dose to 0,5 mg EOD or maintain the dose 0,25 mg and increase frequency to ED?

And a second question would be, after increasing dose or frequency of Anastrozole, how long should I wait to test E2 again?

Tren does not convert to estrogen. but it will negatively impact E levels on a blood test and throw false positives for elevated estrogen.
you could be on Tren only, with not test, and your Estrogen would likely be zero but Tren will show a false positive on bloodwork and show it to be elevated.
do you have elevated estrogen side effects ? I wouldn't start throwing a bunch of Arimidex in there when your only running 500mg of test, especially based on blood work that may not be accurate. the AI is likely to cause more harm then good (unless again your having negative side effects of elevated E)

**EDCG19** · 01-03-2019, 09:11 PM

Switch to aromasin instead of dex
If you're sticking with arimidex than up to .50mg EOD

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**ksingh93** · 01-03-2019, 10:12 PM

are you taking pharma arimidex or ugl ? your e2 shouldn't be that high with only 500 mg of test and .25 dex eod.

**slainrush** · 01-04-2019, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by Friggnewtown

If i were you I would up it to .5mg EOD no doubt with the realization that you might need 1mg EOD. Is this your first cycle? I'm curious because your adding tren to your mix which is definitely an AAS that may be better used with experience. Tren will also increase your prolactin levels, which can lead to prolactin induced gyno. You could also start on Nolvadex at 20mg for first three days then drop to 10mg until the cycle is over, if you can get your hands on Letrozole that will crush your estrogen levels almost immediately. As far as a wait time, I'm not sure when you'd want to check again but get your estrogen in check and I would not be surprised if others might say to drop the tren. the next step is dropping your cycle all together so you don't set yourself up with estrogen sides. I do not know your experience but considering your asking what some consider beginner questions while your using tren made me want to ask is this your fist cycle?

Thanks for your answer, no its my 5th cycle. I will increase to 1 mg EOD and will repeat E2 lab after few days.

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

Tren does not convert to estrogen. but it will negatively impact E levels on a blood test and throw false positives for elevated estrogen.
you could be on Tren only, with not test, and your Estrogen would likely be zero but Tren will show a false positive on bloodwork and show it to be elevated.
do you have elevated estrogen side effects ? I wouldn't start throwing a bunch of Arimidex in there when your only running 500mg of test, especially based on blood work that may not be accurate. the AI is likely to cause more harm then good (unless again your having negative side effects of elevated E)

Ive checked my prolactin and its normal. Ive checked my TSH and T3 also normal.
Ive been having some estrogen sides, but not that much, erection is good, libido either. A little acne appearing, but nothing too serious. Im kind of bad mood and tired.
The Anastrozole seens to be original, but after increasing to 1 mg EOD and if dont change much I will try to by a new one or move to aromasim (witch is not easy to find around here).

Originally Posted by EDCG19

Switch to aromasin instead of dex
If you're sticking with arimidex than up to .50mg EOD
Thx for your reply, I will increase to 1 mg EOD.
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So in a couple of days I will return with new E2 exams and bring here! Thanks guy!

**GearHeaded** · 01-04-2019, 09:23 AM

you need to find out if your blood work lab is using the ECLIA methodology for your bloodwork. IF they are , then your estrogen numbers are going to be totally inaccurate while running Tren.
example of lab using this method are Labcorp (prvatemdlabs). example of lab not using this are Quest diagnostics (labsmd). again if your using Labcorp to test your blood then your Estrogen levels will not be accurate (if on Tren ).

I would find this out first before you go changing things in your protocol.

**kelkel** · 01-04-2019, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by slainrush

Im kind of bad mood and tired.!

Odds are just tren sides. Leave things alone or re-test like GH advised.

**slainrush** · 01-04-2019, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

you need to find out if your blood work lab is using the ECLIA methodology for your bloodwork. IF they are , then your estrogen numbers are going to be totally inaccurate while running Tren.
example of lab using this method are Labcorp (prvatemdlabs). example of lab not using this are Quest diagnostics (labsmd). again if your using Labcorp to test your blood then your Estrogen levels will not be accurate (if on Tren ).

I would find this out first before you go changing things in your protocol.

Yeah, checked this, and the method was ECLIA... What should i do?

**Old Duffer** · 01-04-2019, 03:56 PM

If you want to know accurate E2, either drop the tren or get different labs. There's a real good chance that your E2 level is just fine tho!

We all have a bad habit of sweating these details way more than necessary! Having high E2 sides? No? Don't fix what ain't broke!

**slainrush** · 01-04-2019, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Old Duffer

If you want to know accurate E2, either drop the tren or get different labs. There's a real good chance that your E2 level is just fine tho!

We all have a bad habit of sweating these details way more than necessary! Having high E2 sides? No? Don't fix what ain't broke!

Yeah i guess i will drop the tren, and dose E2 again. Because tren A has a short half life, how many days should i wait before dosing E2 again?

**slainrush** · 01-12-2019, 09:49 AM

Good afternoon, so ive done my new E2 lab after increasing my Anastrozole dose from 0,25 mg EOD to 1 mg EOD, and the lab result decreased from 217 to 167. Still high, it might be the error result by trenbolone .

Ive asked to the lab if they could do the exam by spectrometry but it wasnt availible.

I guess at the end of my cicle i will drop the tren A for a week, stay only with my 500 mg/wk Test E and lab again my E2 to see the result. Its a good idea?