High prolactin before cycle?

[Switcha0121]

Hi guys just need abit of advice, considering starting a test dbol cycle, have been off for around 18 months and I have just had my blood test results, will post them below!
Everything seems fine apart from my prolactin seems high, should I concentrate on lowering this before I start a cycle? This will be my 3rd cycle. Any advice will be much appreciated, thanks in advance.

ENDOCRINOLOGY

Hormones

D.H.E.A. SULPHATE 9.700 umol/L 5.73 - 13.40

FOLLICLE STIM. HORMONE 3.77 IU/L 1.50 - 12.40

LUTEINISING HORMONE 4.33 IU/L 1.70 - 8.60

TESTOSTERONE 14.3 nmol/L 8.64 - 29.00

FREE-TESTOSTERONE(CALCULATED) 0.231 nmol/L 0.20 - 0.62

SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOB 45.6 nmol/L 18.30 - 54.10

FREE ANDROGEN INDEX 31.36 Ratio 24.00 - 104.00

17-BETA OESTRADIOL 49.6 pmol/L 41.00 - 159.00

PROLACTIN

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394 mIU/L 86.00 - 324.00

BIOCHEMISTRY

Proteins

ALBUMIN 46.4 g/L 35.00 - 50.00

[The God Himself]

Firstly, you need Proviron. Your SHBG and albumin levels are close to upper limit, hence free testosterone to the lower..
You need testosterone in free form, not binded to SHBG. Add proviron to optimize your levels at 25 mg ED, or may be 50 mg ED.
You can take 0.25 cabergoline twice a week to control prolactin. Your E2 is close to the upper edge so that can also contribute the prolactin secretion in pituitary. Eitherway, proviron-caber combo is a win-win.
Its anti-estrogenic effects, as a weak AI, will also lower your E2 a bit. And increase your free testosterone.
Caber is a D2 receptor agonist. So its going to suppress the pituitary to stop producing Prolactin.

[kelkel]

How does this BW compare to any past BW?
Are you on any meds?
Any thyroid issues?

[KennyJ]

Firstly, you need Proviron. Your SHBG and albumin levels are close to upper limit, hence free testosterone to the lower..
You need testosterone in free form, not binded to SHBG. Add proviron to optimize your levels at 25 mg ED, or may be 50 mg ED.
You can take 0.25 cabergoline twice a week to control prolactin. Your E2 is close to the upper edge so that can also contribute the prolactin secretion in pituitary. Eitherway, proviron-caber combo is a win-win.
Its anti-estrogenic effects, as a weak AI, will also lower your E2 a bit. And increase your free testosterone.
Caber is a D2 receptor agonist. So its going to suppress the pituitary to stop producing Prolactin.

If prolactin is secreted in the pituitary does it mean there is a tumor or can it be secreted without a tumor present?

[Switcha0121]

Thanks for reply, I will try get my hands on them asap and start, what would you suggest about starting my current cycle? Will be 30mg dbol and 500mg test, I have Clomid nolva and aromasin on hand, thanks for advice!

[The God Himself]

If prolactin is secreted in the pituitary does it mean there is a tumor or can it be secreted without a tumor present?

Depends which part of the pituitary is the tumor on. I don’t think he has a tumor, but you are right that can be the case. We don’t know anything about his cycle history.
And yes, some people tend to have hyperprolactinemia without any tumor present..
Caber is the first thing used to fight against it.
OP, please give us more information about your cycle history. Is this BW for your first cycle?

[Switcha0121]

Depends which part of the pituitary is the tumor on. I don’t think he has a tumor, but you are right that can be the case. We don’t know anything about his cycle history.
And yes, some people tend to have hyperprolactinemia without any tumor present..
Caber is the first thing used to fight against it.
OP, please give us more information about your cycle history. Is this BW for your first cycle?

This whole Tumor thing is nervy lol, previous cycles, first was 40mg dbol 500 test per week, 2nd cycle same again but with npp 350mg

[KennyJ]

Depends which part of the pituitary is the tumor on. I don’t think he has a tumor, but you are right that can be the case. We don’t know anything about his cycle history.
And yes, some people tend to have hyperprolactinemia without any tumor present..
Caber is the first thing used to fight against it.
OP, please give us more information about your cycle history. Is this BW for your first cycle?

Sorry Switcha, I wasn't trying to scare you or say you had a tumor.

[The God Himself]

This whole Tumor thing is nervy lol, previous cycles, first was 40mg dbol 500 test per week, 2nd cycle same again but with npp 350mg

When did you finish the cycle with NPP? It could be the reason here..
Did you monitor your prolactin levels during the cycle? Or did you run caber along with npp?

[Switcha0121]

Finished around 18 months ago mate, didn't use caber and looking back on results, the test I had done before didn't cover prolactin so I can't really check, stupid I know. I honestly think it could off been from the npp cycle as I only done nolva clomid pct, what do you think I should do with starting my current cycle? Wait and get prolactin levels lowered before, or start cycle and lower whilst on cycle with cabergoline?

[The God Himself]

Finished around 18 months ago mate, didn't use caber and looking back on results, the test I had done before didn't cover prolactin so I can't really check, stupid I know. I honestly think it could off been from the npp cycle as I only done nolva clomid pct, what do you think I should do with starting my current cycle? Wait and get prolactin levels lowered before, or start cycle and lower whilst on cycle with cabergoline?

High prolactin and low free test are going to give you some sexually unwanted sides like ED, delayed ejaculation etc..
What to do from now on is open to debate actually, what I would do is to stick with caber and proviron for 2 weeks and see how the things turn out. Dbol is pretty estrogenic, so watch out for E2 if you are sensitive to it.
Prolactin will amplify the E2 sides if they are both high. So give it a little time, imho. Everything will be fine, caber is pretty quick at lowering prolactin, also proviron is quick at increasing free test too.

[kelkel]

High prolactin and low free test are going to give you some sexually unwanted sides like ED, delayed ejaculation etc..
What to do from now on is open to debate actually, what I would do is to stick with caber and proviron for 2 weeks and see how the things turn out. Dbol is pretty estrogenic, so watch out for E2 if you are sensitive to it.
Prolactin will amplify the E2 sides if they are both high. So give it a little time, imho. Everything will be fine, caber is pretty quick at lowering prolactin, also proviron is quick at increasing free test too.

Good advice above.

Also remember that your "one" elevated prolactin reading (not really that elevated) is just a snapshot in time. Could easily be a lab error. Without follow up BW it's hard to tell.

[Switcha0121]

High prolactin and low free test are going to give you some sexually unwanted sides like ED, delayed ejaculation etc..
What to do from now on is open to debate actually, what I would do is to stick with caber and proviron for 2 weeks and see how the things turn out. Dbol is pretty estrogenic, so watch out for E2 if you are sensitive to it.
Prolactin will amplify the E2 sides if they are both high. So give it a little time, imho. Everything will be fine, caber is pretty quick at lowering prolactin, also proviron is quick at increasing free test too.

So far ED is no issue, probably the opposite, I'll get some caber and proviron just undecided wether to start the cycle or not

[Switcha0121]

Yeah I will have to get it done again in a few weeks, I'm just undecided wether to continue and jump on or stay off

[The God Himself]

Also remember that your "one" elevated prolactin reading (not really that elevated) is just a snapshot in time. Could easily be a lab error. Without follow up BW it's hard to tell.

I highly agree with that one. Biological half life window of prolactin is too short, its approximately 15-20 minutes. So, it changes a lot with regards to time..
Get another BW after a while and let us know the results..

[Switcha0121]

I highly agree with that one. Biological half life window of prolactin is too short, its approximately 15-20 minutes. So, it changes a lot with regards to time..
Get another BW after a while and let us know the results..

Just about to order my cabergoline and proviron, would it be worth holding off on the proviron until after my cycle or take whilst on? Regarding e2 I will take 12.5mg eod aromasin to keep e2 in check and get bw done in 6 weeks time mid cycle