Proviron cycle: which test ester else should I add besides if not choosing prop?

[Testlolblast]

Hi, dear forum users,
I'm searching for cheaper alternatives to test prop as my proviron cycle additive. The second compound definitely should be a test. Long acting ones count.
Here are my opinions:
1) test cypionate ;
2) blends like sustanon 250, omnadren 250, testoviron ( however I'm not sure about their effectiveness as a part of a cutting cycle).

I have excluded enanthate , because it's more suitable for a bulking.
Also, considering that every compound for my aas cycle I'm going to get should be not from ugls which would be a cheaper alternative to prop, keeping all the effectiveness for cutting purposes?

[ghettoboyd]

hi bro you are overthinking all of this...test is test, the difference between them being the ester attached to allow for faster or slower release of the compound in depo...to be honest prop is the cheapest of all the tests so your options are limited...also test enanthate is extremely similar to cypionate and both can be used for bulking or cutting...have you read the first cycle thread in the stickys?... it would explain a lot to you that you don't understand about cycling...good luck

[< <Samson> >]

Test is just test


I usually do Sust for all my test needs. But, sometimes switch it up & mix it down a little(like rn, a little cyp + a little prop)



^ makes no real dif

[redz]

I’m blown away how many people mess with their bodies and know so little about what they are doing. Test is test.

[< <Samson> >]

I’m blown away how many people mess with their bodies and know so little about what they are doing. Test is test.

I know

But, we learn as we go



I didn't know a 1/4 of the shit that I do now when I first started

[HoldMyBeer]

I know

But, we learn as we go



I didn't know a 1/4 of the shit that I do now when I first started

Agreed. I read things that make me cringe, such as OPs comment regarding cyp and enth. Then I have to realize, I am sure many of my first posts did the same, and the vets were patient and answered accordingly. It's just part of the learning process

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[redz]

I know I’ve learned a ton since I started but I researched for a decade before starting. I guess I’m in the minority.

[Testlolblast]

Thank you, everyone, for every answer!

Test is just test


I usually do Sust for all my test needs. But, sometimes switch it up & mix it down a little(like rn, a little cyp + a little prop)


^ makes no real dif

@<<Samson>>, I think I'll also choose Sustanon 250 or Omnadren 250 as a TRT dose, a weekly injection, alongside with proviron 50mg/ed for 8 weeks. Of what I have read: doses 500mg and above is more for bulking purposes, no big imppact if chosen for a cutting cycle. Well, I have also runned Sustanon 250 previously as a test boosting aid (250mg every 3 weeks) and I would say it worked well. I have had no experience with Omnadren 250 though.

[Windex]

Thank you, everyone, for every answer!



@<<Samson>>, I think I'll also choose Sustanon 250 or Omnadren 250 as a TRT dose, a weekly injection, alongside with proviron 50mg/ed for 8 weeks. Of what I have read: doses 500mg and above is more for bulking purposes, no big imppact if chosen for a cutting cycle. Well, I have also runned Sustanon 250 previously as a test boosting aid (250mg every 3 weeks) and I would say it worked well. I have had no experience with Omnadren 250 though.

You should spend more time with education and understanding how esters work first.

Injecting Omnadren or Sustanon once per week is a really good way to put your body through a hormonal roller coaster and a really bad way to administer TRT. Not too mention blends are not optimal for TRT compared to single ester.

You can bulk or cut on Test, diet determines results. Your body doesn't magically just start putting on weight at 500mg of Test but not 400mg

[Testlolblast]

You should spend more time with education and understanding how esters work first.

Injecting Omnadren or Sustanon once per week is a really good way to put your body through a hormonal roller coaster and a really bad way to administer TRT. Not too mention blends are not optimal for TRT compared to single ester.

You can bulk or cut on Test, diet determines results. Your body doesn't magically just start putting on weight at 500mg of Test but not 400mg

So, you suggest to inject 2x a week (if the compound is Sustanon 250 or Omnadren 250)? Also I think I should extend the cycle to 10 - 12 weeks if choosing the long acting ones like these. And the pct should be started 3 weeks after the last injection, right? How about proviron , dosage, opinions??

[Windex]

So, you suggest to inject 2x a week (if the compound is Sustanon 250 or Omnadren 250)? Also I think I should extend the cycle to 10 - 12 weeks if choosing the long acting ones like these. And the pct should be started 3 weeks after the last injection, right? How about proviron, dosage, opinions??

Me giving you the answer is handing you fish instead of teaching you how to fish for yourself.

There are many stickies that explain how esters work.

Injecting blends mixed with short and long esters at 2x per week is still not often enough because you are still wasting part of the Testosterone .

Omnadren is also the most faked human grade Testosterone if I remember correctly (assuming your buying UGL).

Just stay away from blends - Pick Test C E or P

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, my 1st thread here I believe was on how to do a dBol cycle safely

^Yeah



I don't know stats or whatever, but a basic cycle is straight test (500mg is a solid starting dose) broken into two injections per week, I always run a ai(Exemestane 12.5mg EOD), HCG throughout(500iu a week) - ran for 12 weeks


Then PCT with dex & Clomid


Done


In most cases don't buy into the HG test BS, most of that shit is counterfeit af

[Testlolblast]

Shit, my 1st thread here I believe was on how to do a dBol cycle safely

^Yeah



I don't know stats or whatever, but a basic cycle is straight test (500mg is a solid starting dose) broken into two injections per week, I always run a ai(Exemestane 12.5mg EOD), HCG throughout(500iu a week) - ran for 12 weeks


Then PCT with dex & Clomid


Done


In most cases don't buy into the HG test BS, most of that shit is counterfeit af

Thanks! I surfed around the forum and found quite a lot of posts praising usefulness and good experiences of running Sust in an aas cycle. Well, I also considered all the pros and cons. So, sorry, Windex, but this time I will rely on my opinion: I'm choosing Sust as the base of my upcoming aas cycle.

The cycle should be 12 weeks long, and Sust 250mg injected twice a week. Hmm, the problem would be to get a good quality hcg as I had had a very little experience with it's use… But I think I should deal with it and inject 2 x 250iu a week alongside with Sust. After the cycle I will wait 3 weeks and then run the pct clomid 75/50/50/50, tamoxifen 40/40/20/20. Just one question about proviron : can I add a small dose of it to this cycle so I don't have to use aromatase inhibitors??

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, fvcking proviron made my gyno flare up

Try it out, most guys seem to do well with it


It does not replace the need for an ai

[Testlolblast]

Shit, fvcking proviron made my gyno flare up

Try it out, most guys seem to do well with it


It does not replace the need for an ai

So, no way it can be useful to cope also with estrogen related sides??

[< <Samson> >]

So, no way it can be useful to cope also with estrogen related sides??

Nope

Run a mild ai