Is my gear underdosed?

[JohnnyV85]

I got labs at the end of week 5, prior to injection #10...on a thursday morning. Ive been on 500mg Test E per week. 2 shots @ 250 each, monday am and thursday pm....

Total Testosterone 2379.7
Free Testosterone 49.9
E2 111.8


thoughts?

[Old Duffer]

I got labs at the end of week 5, prior to injection #10...on a thursday morning. Ive been on 500mg Test E per week. 2 shots @ 250 each, monday am and thursday pm....

Total Testosterone 2379.7
Free Testosterone 49.9
E2 111.8


thoughts?

It varies a lot, person to person, but I'd say no. Or maybe just a little. I've had numbers like that

Also depends on when the samples were pulled in comparison to last pin

[Couchlockd]

What's your pinning schedule? And as duffer said, when was blood drawn in relation to last pin?

[JohnnyV85]

What's your pinning schedule? And as duffer said, when was blood drawn in relation to last pin?

250 Monday Am
250 Monday PM

Test E only
No AI

Blood drawn Thursday midday...prior to injection #10

[Couchlockd]

250 Monday Am
250 Monday PM

Test E only
No AI

Blood drawn Thursday midday...prior to injection #10

What was e2?

Could be a big converter to estrogen. Some guys are.

[KennyJ]

What was e2?

Could be a big converter to estrogen. Some guys are.

I think he said 111.8 which seems high to me for only 500/w

[JohnnyV85]

What was e2?

Could be a big converter to estrogen. Some guys are.

Yep 118 like Kenny said...
No real E2 sides. No gyno, minimal water bloat/retention

[AlphaMindz]

I got labs at the end of week 5, prior to injection #10...on a thursday morning. Ive been on 500mg Test E per week. 2 shots @ 250 each, monday am and thursday pm....

Total Testosterone 2379.7
Free Testosterone 49.9
E2 111.8


thoughts?

Sounds about right for UGL test. Your estrogen is about 6 times what it should be so you may want to look into adding some Adex to your regimen. The recommended level for e2 is around 20 but there's a lot of debate about this...if you're not bloated or experiencing any gyno symptoms then the elevated estrogen can actually help you grow....just wanna make sure it's not TOO high cause too much e2 can be problematic.

Your body is aromatizing a lot of the test into estrogen so by adding an AI you'll prevent most of that conversion. However, IF you decide to take something to lower aromatization to estrogen then make sure to take something to block 5 alpha reductase (paw palmetto, DIM, finasteride) as well as that enzyme will convert test to DHT which is also problematic.

[JohnnyV85]

Sounds about right for UGL test. Your estrogen is about 6 times what it should be so you may want to look into adding some Adex to your regimen. The recommended level for e2 is around 20 but there's a lot of debate about this...if you're not bloated or experiencing any gyno symptoms then the elevated estrogen can actually help you grow....just wanna make sure it's not TOO high cause too much e2 can be problematic.

Your body is aromatizing a lot of the test into estrogen so by adding an AI you'll prevent most of that conversion. However, IF you decide to take something to lower aromatization to estrogen then make sure to take something to block 5 alpha reductase (paw palmetto, DIM, finasteride) as well as that enzyme will convert test to DHT which is also problematic.

Started aromasin this week on Monday.. 12.5 mg e2d

I wanted to experiment and see how my body did with no AI, as this is my first cycle... didnt know I should take something to block 5 alpha reductase... will look into that... thanks

[Test Monsterone]

250 Monday Am
250 Monday PM

Test E only
No AI

Blood drawn Thursday midday...prior to injection #10

You mean Thursday PM?

I was taking the same as you and my levels were 1900 the day of injection, before injection.

[JohnnyV85]

You mean Thursday PM?

I was taking the same as you and my levels were 1900 the day of injection, before injection.

Haha right, Thursday PM is what I meant

1900 @ how many weeks into your cycle?

[Thebricklayer]

For what its worth at 500mg a week my test was 4,397 five weeks in.

[Test Monsterone]

Haha right, Thursday PM is what I meant

1900 @ how many weeks into your cycle?

9 weeks. For me, I think the gear was way underdosed. This was supposedly pharma grade - then when I got some UGL, I actually started seeing results. On just 150 mg/week of the UGL my test was over 1600... and with 500 of the "pharma" it was 1900. Don't buy Alpha Pharma, from the well known steroid sites you and I know. It's garbage.

[JohnnyV85]

9 weeks. For me, I think the gear was way underdosed. This was supposedly pharma grade - then when I got some UGL, I actually started seeing results. On just 150 mg/week of the UGL my test was over 1600... and with 500 of the "pharma" it was 1900. Don't buy Alpha Pharma, from the well known steroid sites you and I know. It's garbage.

That's so crazy... I'm on Alpha Pharma bro

[Test Monsterone]

That's so crazy... I'm on Alpha Pharma bro

Wow, check your pm.

[JohnnyV85]

For what its worth at 500mg a week my test was 4,397 five weeks in.

What brand were you on if you don't mind me asking?

[Thebricklayer]

What brand were you on if you don't mind me asking?

Dragon Pharma

[Chrisp83TRT]

250 Monday Am
250 Monday PM

Test E only
No AI

Blood drawn Thursday midday...prior to injection #10

Midday ? What time exactly ?

When it comes to blood work for hormones , I recommend getting bloods done early in the morning 8-9am
As the day progresses testosterone is being used, so you want an accurate peak reading.

As couch has stated as well , you may be sensitive to estrogen conversion which can effect the outcome .keep all these things in mind.

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[JohnnyV85]

Midday ? What time exactly ?

When it comes to blood work for hormones , I recommend getting bloods done early in the morning 8-9am
As the day progresses testosterone is being used, so you want an accurate peak reading.

As couch has stated as well , you may be sensitive to estrogen conversion which can effect the outcome .keep all these things in mind.

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Around 3pm

[HoldMyBeer]

No. 500mg test I would assume peaks around 3500. So if you're getting a draw 3.5 days later it makes sense you're levels are down 33% imo. Maybe slightly low, but not low enough to be upset about imo
Check out steroidcalc.com and plot it. The decay lines up

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[AlphaMindz]

Guys when we're on exogenous test it doesn't matter what time of day we get tested since our bodies aren't pulsing its release.

Now GH testing is a diff story.. the time of day we get our GH levels tested makes a diff since it has such a short half life.

[Couchlockd]

Guys when we're on exogenous test it doesn't matter what time of day we get tested since our bodies aren't pulsing its release.

Now GH testing is a diff story.. the time of day we get our GH levels tested makes a diff since it has such a short half life.

But it does matter time from last pin, especially on a e3.5d schedule.

[AlphaMindz]

Started aromasin this week on Monday.. 12.5 mg e2d

I wanted to experiment and see how my body did with no AI, as this is my first cycle... didnt know I should take something to block 5 alpha reductase... will look into that... thanks

Only if you start having issues with acne. When your body suppresses estrogen conversion it will consequently increase DHT levels which causes issues in a lot of guys but you may be fine. Just mentioning it so you're aware of it. Most people are fine taking something natural like saw palmetto or DIM...Finasteride is a more potent med and I'd only recommend someone get on that if they're concerned with hair loss.

[JohnnyV85]

Only if you start having issues with acne. When your body suppresses estrogen conversion it will consequently increase DHT levels which causes issues in a lot of guys but you may be fine. Just mentioning it so you're aware of it. Most people are fine taking something natural like saw palmetto or DIM...Finasteride is a more potent med and I'd only recommend someone get on that if they're concerned with hair loss.

Got it.
I have been breaking out mildly on my back and shoulders. A little on my chest more recently. I noticed this from very early on in my cycle. I should also add that I am concerned with hair loss since my hair has thinned recently over the last few years and looking at my uncles it appears that MPB runs in the family. Would you recommend I look into Finasteride in this case?
Thanks for all your input, I'm pretty new at AAS so I'm trying to soak up as much knowledge as possible...