The problem with UGLs

[Test Monsterone]

The problem I have with UGLs is that you never know the actual concentration of what you're getting. Say you run TRT on your own, like I am, I want to dial in my TRT at a certain level and keep it there for months and months. Switching between vials/brands, you never know what you're getting, first of all, and secondly if concentration is correct. You might take 125 mg/week for TRT and you're really taking 80 mg or 200 mg... makes getting blood work all the more important, obviously. But it just sucks that you would have to take bloodwork with each new vial if you really want to dial it in and be on point.

Like right now I'm looking at two bottles of the same brand and the same steroid and the oils are different colors.

[Windex]

I have seen more fake pharma then fake UGL. Fake UGL doesn't last, reputation explodes. Maybe the UGL reopens under new name but cycle continues (No Pun).

Fake Valeant Delatestryl (Test E) and fake Depot Pfizer Test (Test C) being circulated throughout Canada.

Organon Testosterone is more faked than dollar store pregnancy tests.

Research is king.

Just buy the dancing banana lab - Americans love that .

[Couchlockd]

The problem I have with UGLs is that you never know the actual concentration of what you're getting. Say you run TRT on your own, like I am, I want to dial in my TRT at a certain level and keep it there for months and months. Switching between vials/brands, you never know what you're getting, first of all, and secondly if concentration is correct. You might take 125 mg/week for TRT and you're really taking 80 mg or 200 mg... makes getting blood work all the more important, obviously. But it just sucks that you would have to take bloodwork with each new vial if you really want to dial it in and be on point.

Like right now I'm looking at two bottles of the same brand and the same steroid and the oils are different colors.

Pics?

[Testlolblast]

No, if you can get the real thing you're a lucky one.
Not as a case of me: I bought the gear privately from one person and I would say that he fucked up (with his "gear") all my cycle and pct.

[Obs]

No, if you can get the real thing you're a lucky one.
Not as a case of me: I bought the gear privately from one person and I would say that he fucked up (with his "gear") all my cycle and pct.

Well no one here with a legit source of quality ugl gear will give you shit because of your post history.

[Obs]

I have seen more fake pharma then fake UGL. Fake UGL doesn't last, reputation explodes. Maybe the UGL reopens under new name but cycle continues (No Pun).

Fake Valeant Delatestryl (Test E) and fake Depot Pfizer Test (Test C) being circulated throughout Canada.

Organon Testosterone is more faked than dollar store pregnancy tests.

Research is king.

Just buy the dancing banana lab - Americans love that .

Who is dancing banana lab?
You are inferring something which you have no clue about. Unfortunately people listen to you because you have monitor status which should never have been as you did nothing more than parrot marcus and the rest of the inner circle.

2500 posts and you never say a damn thing positive to anyone. I have had people ask me randomly on wickr wtf it is you never say anything positive or compliment anyone.
You are 100% identical to the old regime and have done nothing but run guys off.

You "say the truth which is not what people want to hear" as you put it.
Fuck no.
You just say anything negative you can 100% of the time and your post record proves it.

I am done now.
Wont resopond to you again or be affected by your negative shit.
Happy monitoring.

[clarky.]

The problem I have with UGLs is that you never know the actual concentration of what you're getting. Say you run TRT on your own, like I am, I want to dial in my TRT at a certain level and keep it there for months and months. Switching between vials/brands, you never know what you're getting, first of all, and secondly if concentration is correct. You might take 125 mg/week for TRT and you're really taking 80 mg or 200 mg... makes getting blood work all the more important, obviously. But it just sucks that you would have to take bloodwork with each new vial if you really want to dial it in and be on point.

Like right now I'm looking at two bottles of the same brand and the same steroid and the oils are different colors.

That the problem with ugl's it's just ppl like you and I brewing gear with nothing regulated or checked, ppl get gready then make lower dosed gear to make the raws go further.
There are some very good sources out there that do sell good proper dosed gear, but could be busted at any time then your trt is fucked.

Why not see a endo to see if you need TRT.

[redz]

Testiblast It is not hard to get legitimate gear. You are just an easy target with how you fish and who you ask for gear.

[MegaMeatMan]

I don't compete on powerlifting or bodybuilding any longer being in 57. I don't really even try to beat last week's lifts anymore.
The test. I buy may or may not be right on point everytime but in all that I've gotten it all seems to be enough to pull gains from. I've used quite a bit of various companies too. Sometimes I have bloodwork done, other times not. Still I gain......

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[fiddlesticks]

Alot of the time the UGL will put a stronger compound in tiny doses in the product to make it much more effective. Genius idea really.

Like, putting .5mg of methyltren in a bottle of 10ml tren ace for example

[fiddlesticks]

And it isn't just the concentration I mean you have legit 0 idea what your shit contains unless it's tested. Could have any drug in it, recreational or not. Whatever the UGL thinks will be useful to the consumer ..

I've heard of absolutely ridiculous stuff

[< <Samson> >]

Alot of the time the UGL will put a stronger compound in tiny doses in the product to make it much more effective. Genius idea really.

Like, putting .5mg of methyltren in a bottle of 10ml tren ace for example

Right, it’s common sense - so you’ll go back to the guy with the “good shit”

Like the tren I ran last summer - 100mg per ml my ass - I could barely put down a little over a cc a week

[fiddlesticks]

Right, it’s common sense - so you’ll go back to the guy with the “good shit”

Like the tren I ran last summer - 100mg per ml my ass - I could barely put down a little over a cc a week

There's been instances where good ol' meth was in vials of test and that isn't even the worst part.. Not even close. Big reason people get such varied effects from all this stuff. Some shit might be laced with opiates, stimulants, stronger androgens anything really literally whatever some dude thinks is gonna make the buyer more into his stuff. No honor amongst thieves. Think its getting more understood that UGL stuff is a roulette now.

[Couchlockd]

There's been instances where good ol' meth was in vials of test and that isn't even the worst part.. Not even close. Big reason people get such varied effects from all this stuff. Some shit might be laced with opiates, stimulants, stronger androgens anything really literally whatever some dude thinks is gonna make the buyer more into his stuff. No honor amongst thieves. Think its getting more understood that UGL stuff is a roulette now.

Meth?

I gotta see this article or story please

[fiddlesticks]

Meth?

I gotta see this article or story please

Stuff like this is alot more common than you would imagine and like I said meth in particular isn't even the worst. Not to sound like a dick but it's honestly hilarious people don't expect stuff like this. I've seen just about everything and it's a big reason I don't bother with UGL at all.

Not accusing any X source of being good or bad but yeah myself and others have tested random tabs vials and everything in between over the years and it's pretty frightening. Unless you purchase the tested raws yourself you are fooling yourself expecting UGL to be spot on. And even the damn raws can be all messed up..

There's other stuff to say but yes believe it or not people making lots of money making illegal drugs tend to not be very concerned about someone's well being. This sport is and has been for some time very dependent on rec drugs anyway.

[< <Samson> >]

Let’s not get too weird here - but anything can b thrown in. But, a stim in gear - hmmm, I don’t see much purpose. . . Well, my last guy(the one who made 100mg ml tren that felt stronger than 300mg) got handsy one time, he threw in some stim(I’m thinking caffeine) in my Var presses - even M can b used just fine in therapeutic doses

It’s kinda y the guys who brew my gear r on a personal level


I remember when I first started using juice - I’d order a extra vial & give it away - to see the side effects < no abscess, not bad pip - sure, I’ll use it - Now

[Testlolblast]

Well no one here with a legit source of quality ugl gear will give you shit because of your post history.

Testiblast It is not hard to get legitimate gear. You are just an easy target with how you fish and who you ask for gear.

Thanks.

[fiddlesticks]

Let’s not get too weird here - but anything can b thrown in. But, a stim in gear - hmmm, I don’t see much purpose. . . Well, my last guy(the one who made 100mg ml tren that felt stronger than 300mg) got handsy one time, he threw in some stim(I’m thinking caffeine) in my Var presses - even M can b used just fine in therapeutic doses

It’s kinda y the guys who brew my gear r on a personal level


I remember when I first started using juice - I’d order a extra vial & give it away - to see the side effects < no abscess, not bad pip - sure, I’ll use it - Now

They add whatever the hell is gonna make the person want more. The tabs are DEFINITELY more likely to have any crazy cocktail of drugs in them because they need filler anyway.

[< <Samson> >]

[QUOTE=fiddlesticks;7452213]They add whatever the hell is gonna make the person want more. The tabs are DEFINITELY more likely to have any crazy cocktail of drugs in them because they need filler anyway.[/QUOTE

I seen the mass specs, UGL is UGL - Knock off pharma is the worst.

My UGL guys have been like this: little shit brewers, scrapping together good looking powder. . . It works. . . Aside from the mystery var I once got. Var doesn’t get you wired - dude, ummmm - mine’s really strong. Really?! Maaaaan




I’ll throw down the juice if anyone wants to hit it with a mass spec

I do wish HG existed - but, it’s a myth. . . My biggest gripe is over, wtf is in the powder itself


I damn near guarantee heavy metals - how much? Well, I ain’t dead - yet

[ghettoboyd]

ive always had great luck using my same ugls ive used for the last 10 yrs...there a many that are private that take a great deal in the quality and care they put into there products...its a shame people have to use sources that advertise on public forums( I realize there are good ones but as you know a lot of them eventually go bad)...that said please don't ask me for a source because the really good sources have plenty of business and never ever has any of them asked for me for referrals or offered me free gear to get publicity here or anywhere else for that matter cus they don't want it and are all about safety for them and us...in all the time ive been here not once has anyone mentioned one of my sources so its working...just saying

[Test Monsterone]

[QUOTE=< <Samson> >;7452248]

They add whatever the hell is gonna make the person want more. The tabs are DEFINITELY more likely to have any crazy cocktail of drugs in them because they need filler anyway.[/QUOTE

I seen the mass specs, UGL is UGL - Knock off pharma is the worst.

My UGL guys have been like this: little shit brewers, scrapping together good looking powder. . . It works. . . Aside from the mystery var I once got. Var doesn’t get you wired - dude, ummmm - mine’s really strong. Really?! Maaaaan




I’ll throw down the juice if anyone wants to hit it with a mass spec

I do wish HG existed - but, it’s a myth. . . My biggest gripe is over, wtf is in the powder itself


I damn near guarantee heavy metals - how much? Well, I ain’t dead - yet

I think I learned my lesson about bad "Pharma" right off the bat. My first cycle last year I ran Alpha Pharma. I posted pics on here and even said it looked real, and it did. Bloods were horrible, like half of what it should have been. Then I ran some UGL someone recommended and it was like a light switch went off. Gains kicked in.

[< <Samson> >]

[QUOTE=Test Monsterone;7452556]

I think I learned my lesson about bad "Pharma" right off the bat. My first cycle last year I ran Alpha Pharma. I posted pics on here and even said it looked real, and it did. Bloods were horrible, like half of what it should have been. Then I ran some UGL someone recommended and it was like a light switch went off. Gains kicked in.

Exactly

The fancy shit is just for looks - I had them all

The look is nothing but a sales tactic


Best gear(no pip, solid bloods & kicked like a horse) I used, had no label & looked like olive oil

[fiddlesticks]

Lmao wait a minute you've gotta be fucking with me right now...

Am I understanding this correctly? A UGL will put "pharma" in their name and thus this genuinely makes people think its any different ? LOLOLOL

ok now that is absolutely hilarious if I'm understanding that correctly. If anything it would be blatantly obvious that they are trying to cover up something with the flashy appearance.

[< <Samson> >]

Well,

So you’re saying there is no HG tren ?!


Ha ha

[Couchlockd]

soon after its creation would lead way to the first and only human grade form of Tren Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate better known as Parabolan . Manufactured by Negma Laboratories in France Parabolan was found to be highly effective in the treatment of numerous medical conditions and remained effectively used in medicine until 1997 when Negma discontinued production.

Not any more.