Cruising vs PCT

[kiwibacon]

Is cruising a really stupid idea?
After you cruise can you recover was thinking of doing 2-3 cycles while cruising then doing a big pct.

Or is this stupid? Not losing muscle for 2 cycles in the pct seems like a big benefit??

Or have I made that pct impossible and cooked my balls by then.

[Couchlockd]

Is cruising a really stupid idea?
After you cruise can you recover was thinking of doing 2-3 cycles while cruising then doing a big pct.

Or is this stupid? Not losing muscle for 2 cycles in the pct seems like a big benefit??

Or have I made that pct impossible and cooked my balls by then.

Nothing's is impossible, highly unlikely yes, but not impossible.

I too have this thought, in 5 years after I get this shit out of my system and have sown my oats so to speak I may try a pct just to see how it goes. If it dont work it's trt or cruise again.
.by then I'll be under Dr care for trt can't rely on self medicating for ever.

[The God Himself]

Nothing's is impossible, highly unlikely yes, but not impossible.

I too have this thought, in 5 years after I get this shit out of my system and have sown my oats so to speak I may try a pct just to see how it goes. If it dont work it's trt or cruise again.
.by then I'll be under Dr care for trt can't rely on self medicating for ever.

Couch answered it perfectly, but I want to add a few things.
Blasting and cruising require a lot of effort, you need to watch your blood counts out, you need get your semen checked regularly to see sperm count etc..
How old are you? Are you planning to have children in the future?
Having children while blasting is very unlikely, but not impossible. When you're down to cruising or TRT dose back, then your chances are getting higher. But remember, it will be still harder for you to have child this way if you compare your odds to a person with no cycle history. You need to be on hCG all the time, so you won't turn your testicles into two useless nut kernels.
The longer you're on gear OR the more you cycle (even if you PCT), the harder it becomes to bounce back. And it even happens at the first cycle for some people.
Make sure you learnt all the details about the protocols and their consequences before you choose this route.

[GearHeaded]

Is cruising a really stupid idea?
After you cruise can you recover was thinking of doing 2-3 cycles while cruising then doing a big pct.

Or is this stupid? Not losing muscle for 2 cycles in the pct seems like a big benefit??

Or have I made that pct impossible and cooked my balls by then.

running multiple cycles in a row for say 9 months straight (a few short cruises in between) and doing ONE pct per year is something thats been done effectively for years. so what your thinking isn't exactly new or unheard of. and no I don't think its a stupid idea at all.

its a fine compromise between staying on for years on end, and the other end of the spectrum doing a PCT after every single cycle you run (which is not great for gains imo).

[DeeCee112]

running multiple cycles in a row for say 9 months straight (a few short cruises in between) and doing ONE pct per year is something thats been done effectively for years. so what your thinking isn't exactly new or unheard of. and no I don't think its a stupid idea at all.

its a fine compromise between staying on for years on end, and the other end of the spectrum doing a PCT after every single cycle you run (which is not great for gains imo).

This is kind of what I'm starting to consider myself currently. And the source of my questions in the other thread.

Is it actually harder on your system to blast then Pct (one extreme to the other) twice or three times in a year or two or to string two blasts together with a cruise after then a pct from a cruise dose.

[CorsairAR]

running multiple cycles in a row for say 9 months straight (a few short cruises in between) and doing ONE pct per year is something thats been done effectively for years. so what your thinking isn't exactly new or unheard of. and no I don't think its a stupid idea at all.

its a fine compromise between staying on for years on end, and the other end of the spectrum doing a PCT after every single cycle you run (which is not great for gains imo).

So if you do 2 cycles with 1 trt between them, say 12 weeks a blast and 6 weeks trt for then another cycle, using test and eq that are "not so aggressive" drugs, then finish the year with a PCT as Dr Scally would not be preposterous, and maybe more easy to recover?

Would it be absolutely necessary to use HCG at this time? I've been thinking about it for some time, and I heard it from bodybuilders, that it does not make sense to put in during the hcg cycle, if it's not for years under the effect of steroids. In fact I saw videos of Pianna (I know he was crazy) but said that: why introduce hcg during the cycle? It is confusing the body to stop producing it, what we are already doing to be under the effects of the test.

[Couchlockd]

I will add this. I love my daughter that was just born. Very very unexpected.

I was reckless on a blast about close to a g of test a week between test E and test base, 700mg mast. 50mg var a day, but I was using hcg 500 iu a week.

I figured "I can release inside the misses, I've always done it even before steroids, never got anyone pregnant"

8 figured my sperm were just bad, and on cycle definitely nothing would happen. But low and behold, first time I let one loose in her on HCG, 9 months later a bundle of joy.

And she's basically my twin, so yes she's definitely mine. Lol.

Hcg does work

[The Deadlifting Dog]

So if you do 2 cycles with 1 trt between them, say 12 weeks a blast and 6 weeks trt for then another cycle, using test and eq that are "not so aggressive" drugs, then finish the year with a PCT as Dr Scally would not be preposterous, and maybe more easy to recover?

Would it be absolutely necessary to use HCG at this time? I've been thinking about it for some time, and I heard it from bodybuilders, that it does not make sense to put in during the hcg cycle, if it's not for years under the effect of steroids. In fact I saw videos of Pianna (I know he was crazy) but said that: why introduce hcg during the cycle? It is confusing the body to stop producing it, what we are already doing to be under the effects of the test.

a longer blast and cruise would definitely not be easier to recover from....
and I would definitely run hCG during the entire cycle

[CorsairAR]

How much time do the vial last after mixin it?

[Couchlockd]

How much time do the vial last after mixin it?

In bacteriostatic water you'll be ok for 90 days or more.

[Wyatt 88]

running multiple cycles in a row for say 9 months straight (a few short cruises in between) and doing ONE pct per year is something thats been done effectively for years. so what your thinking isn't exactly new or unheard of. and no I don't think its a stupid idea at all.

its a fine compromise between staying on for years on end, and the other end of the spectrum doing a PCT after every single cycle you run (which is not great for gains imo).

What about doing the 20 week deca/tren classic. then EQ (at 600 Test at 375) then blast tren again for 8 weeks?... basically what I'm asking is how bad to your receptors desensitize? In some of your posts you spoke up on how we regenerate receptors at such a rapid rate so it's next to Impossible for test to stop working. What about other compounds?

[CA_DXB_85]

In bacteriostatic water you'll be ok for 90 days or more.

3 months??? I don't know why I was under the impression of 3 weeks and just ordered a shit load of bac water lol

[CA_DXB_85]

Couch bro, I read on a couple of sites that bac water is only good for like 28 to 30 days.

On one of the websites it said:
Bacteriostatic water does have a shelf life, and it should be discarded after 28 days since the benzyl alcohol can lose its potency after this time. You could use it for two more days, but 30 days it he maximum number of useable days

[Test Monsterone]

I'm using the same bottle of bac water from 7 months ago. It was 30 mL and I'm on the last 10mL of solution. I never refrigerated the back water by itself. I obviously refrigerate the HCG + Bac. I have used HCG/bac for 2-3 months without any problems that I can notice.

[Windex]

Couch bro, I read on a couple of sites that bac water is only good for like 28 to 30 days.

On one of the websites it said:
Bacteriostatic water does have a shelf life, and it should be discarded after 28 days since the benzyl alcohol can lose its potency after this time. You could use it for two more days, but 30 days it he maximum number of useable days

Bac water is good for more than 30 days when referigerated. The paperwork that comes with Bac water and HCG from a pharmacy states use both in 30 days. No different than an "expiration date" on a bottle of Tylenol. Just a liability block that BigPharma has created to cover their butt. This little piece of paper insert has created the old wives tale of using within 30 days.

[CorsairAR]

a longer blast and cruise would definitely not be easier to recover from....
and I would definitely run hCG during the entire cycle

So This supposed a faster recuperation when PCT with high doses of HCG ?

Using HCG during the cycle, in order to perform a better recovery after performing the PCT with high doses of it?
Only get Gonacor 5000 in my country, which brings a vial of 3ml capacity. Using 500ui doses once a week, it would be 0.3ml to inject me. If I want to use it in 2 doses of 250 IU, can I put the reconstituted HCg out and transfer it to a 5 ml vial of sodium chloride solution for injection 0.9%? Or use only 1 application per week of 500?

[Test Monsterone]

You can dilute the HCG with bacteriostatic water at any concentration you like. 2 x a week is preferable. In fact, the more often the better. Some do 3x a week. HCG has a half-life of 24-36 hours.

You should take HCG during your cycle because you want to keep your testicles/leydig cells active and working so that they don't have to come out of dormancy. Your hypothalamus and pituitary glands will still be suppressed during the cycle, so you will still have to wait for them to recover, but it will be easier than having both the glands and the testes having to recover. Remember, the hypothalamus and pituitary work together to stimulate the testes to produce sperm and testosterone.

[CAADsprint]

About the blast and cruise

Doing what you mentioned is a solid way to maximize and keep more gains. Like others have said, its become a much better and more efficient way of getting the best of it. Blasting and cruising and then doing a big pct could be more efficient and in a way possibly better on your health despite the fact that you are on for longer.

Lift like a God when your on and then go back to peasant status when your off and "maintain" your gains when your off. Then on your next blast and cruise bring it back to God status.

The thing is, or at least what I have observed all over the net, YouTube, whatever is that we are all relying on each other to produce accurate statistics of what can be done. Before the internet I dont even know how they did it. Over time it seems that dosages, length on, and what you can do to maximize recovery to avoid trt is a hot topic. All over the internet and the world it is evolving and modernizing. We often never have the help of doctors to create concrete answers and even then doctors are so clueless to this topic that often times they can't help until they catch up.

As always take this whole comment with a grain of salt!! Please