Nolva and dex, i cant figured out

[CorsairAR]

I need a little guidance.

I perform a cycle (test and low dose tren ) where I use airmidex 0.5 eod and experience pain in the nipple, then change it to tamoxifen and the pain goes away after 24 hrs, with a dose of 20mg.
In another cycle (test and EQ) I use only tamoxifen, 10mg per day and have not experience any pain but acne on the back.

My question is: should I use both dex and tamox in my next cyclo? what dose?

I think that the excess of free estrogens in my cycle where I use ONLY tamox, which is a SERM, all those free estrogens generated acne. So I think that adding an AI like dex should have everything under control.

Opinions?

[Getsomehate]

I need a little guidance.

I perform a cycle (test and low dose tren ) where I use airmidex 0.5 eod and experience pain in the nipple, then change it to tamoxifen and the pain goes away after 24 hrs, with a dose of 20mg.
In another cycle (test and EQ) I use only tamoxifen, 10mg per day and have not experience any pain but acne on the back.

My question is: should I use both dex and tamox in my next cyclo? what dose?

I think that the excess of free estrogens in my cycle where I use ONLY tamox, which is a SERM, all those free estrogens generated acne. So I think that adding an AI like dex should have everything under control.

Opinions?

Wait . Are you using Tamo every day for precautious measures?
Adex Is an AI , it prevents aromatization , it doesnt make gyno go away.
Tamo is is an "anti-estrogen" and works by competing with estrogen to bind to estrogen receptors, it blocks estro in the breasts.
If you have Gyno signs , taking Adex wont do shit , it will just prevent u from producing more Estro .
To fight gyno u need Tamo but taking these drugs just to avoid stuff its not the best idea as they are drugs to cure cancer and considered heavy .
Tbh Adex 0.5 eod is a bit too much but it really differs from person to person , also i know Tren causes prolactin issues and people run Caber with it but i dont have experience with it .

Someone correct me if i am wrong.

[Kyle1337]

Wait . Are you using Tamo every day for precautious measures?
Adex Is an AI , it prevents aromatization , it doesnt make gyno go away.
Tamo is is an "anti-estrogen" and works by competing with estrogen to bind to estrogen receptors, it blocks estro in the breasts.
If you have Gyno signs , taking Adex wont do shit , it will just prevent u from producing more Estro .
To fight gyno u need Tamo but taking these drugs just to avoid stuff its not the best idea as they are drugs to cure cancer and considered heavy .
Tbh Adex 0.5 eod is a bit too much but it really differs from person to person , also i know Tren causes prolactin issues and people run Caber with it but i dont have experience with it .

Someone correct me if i am wrong.

You're pretty on point. Agree that adex is too much and too early.

However, OP instead of guessing, why not do a blood test? Only way to know your levels.

[Getsomehate]

I need a little guidance.

I perform a cycle (test and low dose tren ) where I use airmidex 0.5 eod and experience pain in the nipple, then change it to tamoxifen and the pain goes away after 24 hrs, with a dose of 20mg.
In another cycle (test and EQ) I use only tamoxifen, 10mg per day and have not experience any pain but acne on the back.

My question is: should I use both dex and tamox in my next cyclo? what dose?

I think that the excess of free estrogens in my cycle where I use ONLY tamox, which is a SERM, all those free estrogens generated acne. So I think that adding an AI like dex should have everything under control.

Opinions?

OP,
Depending the substances you are using , you need the appropriate drugs .
Getting Tamo each day without having gyno , just to prevent from getting Gyno is not smart, if you having tren for your next cycle , is always good to have a dopamine agonist like Caber , as Tren causes prolactin side effects.
Serms like Tamo and Clomid are always good to have on hand and you should .
AI's like Adex or aromasin are also good to have in case your sensitive to armatization.
The dosages for Adex differs from people to people , for example i used Adex once in my 12wk Test -E 500mg/wk cycle, some other people use it more , the best you can do to know if u need to take an AI is get bloods done and the dosages you want to take are conservative and not aggressive so you dont crush your Estrogen levels , so 0.5mg eod might be alot , if you need to take Adex i would go for 0.25 eod , if you getting Gyno you should still continue the use of Adex without upping the dose and throw 20mg Nolva daily till you good to go.

In my honest opinion if i had to take other drugs to prevent the effects of other shit i pin to my ass , i would just change that substance with something else .
For example if specific androgens causing estrogen side effects and force me to use nolva and arimidex just to counter those sides , i would just go for anabolics over androgens , but thats just my opinion . Also Acne could be from anything really test or tren you dont know whats causing it for sure.
Good luck mate.

[CorsairAR]

OP,
Depending the substances you are using , you need the appropriate drugs .
Getting Tamo each day without having gyno , just to prevent from getting Gyno is not smart, if you having tren for your next cycle , is always good to have a dopamine agonist like Caber , as Tren causes prolactin side effects.
Serms like Tamo and Clomid are always good to have on hand and you should .
AI's like Adex or aromasin are also good to have in case your sensitive to armatization.
The dosages for Adex differs from people to people , for example i used Adex once in my 12wk Test -E 500mg/wk cycle, some other people use it more , the best you can do to know if u need to take an AI is get bloods done and the dosages you want to take are conservative and not aggressive so you dont crush your Estrogen levels , so 0.5mg eod might be alot , if you need to take Adex i would go for 0.25 eod , if you getting Gyno you should still continue the use of Adex without upping the dose and throw 20mg Nolva daily till you good to go.

In my honest opinion if i had to take other drugs to prevent the effects of other shit i pin to my ass , i would just change that substance with something else .
For example if specific androgens causing estrogen side effects and force me to use nolva and arimidex just to counter those sides , i would just go for anabolics over androgens , but thats just my opinion . Also Acne could be from anything really test or tren you dont know whats causing it for sure.
Good luck mate.

thank you very much, I appreciate your response.
I will not use tren anymore, I will use what gave better results to me: test and eq, I will keep it simple. I may try deca , i never give it a chance.
I will keep dex, if the estrogens rise a lot and tamox in case some pain in the nipple starts, as you recommend me.

[GearHeaded]

running a SERM like Nolvadex will allow you to block some of the negative effects of estrogen at the receptor sites (eg, block estrogen in breast tissue), while still allowing for the AAS your taking to aromatize like normal and provide elevated serum levels of estrogen to give you all the positive benefits that come with estrogen.

running an AI like arimidex will block your AAS from converting to estrogen in the first place. thus not allowing for elevated serum levels of estrogen. which essentially blocks both some of the negative aspects of estrogen BUT also blocks all the positive benefits of estrogen.


example.. a SERM is a well trained swat team that technically takes out the terrorists and saves the hostages.. an AI simply comes in a nukes the whole place and deals with the situation by killing everyone


edit- of course this is all dose and compounds dependent

[CorsairAR]

running a SERM like Nolvadex will allow you to block some of the negative effects of estrogen at the receptor sites (eg, block estrogen in breast tissue), while still allowing for the AAS your taking to aromatize like normal and provide elevated serum levels of estrogen to give you all the positive benefits that come with estrogen.

running an AI like arimidex will block your AAS from converting to estrogen in the first place. thus not allowing for elevated serum levels of estrogen. which essentially blocks both some of the negative aspects of estrogen BUT also blocks all the positive benefits of estrogen.


example.. a SERM is a well trained swat team that technically takes out the terrorists and saves the hostages.. an AI simply comes in a nukes the whole place and deals with the situation by killing everyone


edit- of course this is all dose and compounds dependent

Thanks GearHead. I will run Nolvaldex, starting with 10mg/day because Im brest tissue susceptible.

[kelkel]

example.. a SERM is a well trained swat team that technically takes out the terrorists and saves the hostages.. an AI simply comes in a nukes the whole place and deals with the situation by killing everyone

Now there's an analogy! Hysterical.

[Couchlockd]

Now there's an analogy! Hysterical.

But spot on.

[TRA]

running a SERM like Nolvadex will allow you to block some of the negative effects of estrogen at the receptor sites (eg, block estrogen in breast tissue), while still allowing for the AAS your taking to aromatize like normal and provide elevated serum levels of estrogen to give you all the positive benefits that come with estrogen.

running an AI like arimidex will block your AAS from converting to estrogen in the first place. thus not allowing for elevated serum levels of estrogen. which essentially blocks both some of the negative aspects of estrogen BUT also blocks all the positive benefits of estrogen.


example.. a SERM is a well trained swat team that technically takes out the terrorists and saves the hostages.. an AI simply comes in a nukes the whole place and deals with the situation by killing everyone


edit- of course this is all dose and compounds dependent

Haha, exactly! And letrozole pretty much insures complete desolation for about a year.

[Ashop]

I need a little guidance.

I perform a cycle (test and low dose tren ) where I use airmidex 0.5 eod and experience pain in the nipple, then change it to tamoxifen and the pain goes away after 24 hrs, with a dose of 20mg.
In another cycle (test and EQ) I use only tamoxifen, 10mg per day and have not experience any pain but acne on the back.

My question is: should I use both dex and tamox in my next cyclo? what dose?

I think that the excess of free estrogens in my cycle where I use ONLY tamox, which is a SERM, all those free estrogens generated acne. So I think that adding an AI like dex should have everything under control.

Opinions?

Personally I would pick one or the other. If your looking for something primarily to prevent gyno you may want to use a SERM like NOLVA that is site specific to breast tissue.
If your looking to eradicate the entire effect of estrogen in the body, choose the AI.