Is there some kinda chart or small app (can be designed) that sorts every injectables by name/oil/soluble thickness to match suggested syringe size ?
Thanks in advance
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Is there some kinda chart or small app (can be designed) that sorts every injectables by name/oil/soluble thickness to match suggested syringe size ?
Thanks in advance
Viscosity of specific carrier oils can vary. I have shot super thin grapeseed oil and very thick.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbunyan
Though 25 gauge 1" is the best catch all needle I have found. Some draw with 20 and shoot with 25 but I am a cheapskate.
This is confusing, I think the only gear that doesn't fit in any size needle is probably ridiculously painful lol. Someone on here had injectable winstrol that would not even go through a 22g and it had incredible pip.
The oil should be perfectly clear regardless of what compound
I have shot some pain free molasses stuff but also some very painful.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiddlesticks
Thinnest I ever saw was SR health tech and it was like water. You could fill a 29 guage in a few seconds. It was good painless stuff too. Have no clue what carrier it was but I loved the consistency.
Agreed. I went with 25 gauge 1” for IM glute injection. Although now I use insulin syringes now. I think 29 gauge would work fine. The oil I have is fairly thin so it would draw up with any gauge. Just takes a little whileQuote:
Originally Posted by Obs
You guys are right, with soo many labs there's no standard viscosity.
I just use 20g to draw and 25g to pin.
That seems to be the time tested method.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbunyan
I still learn.
I injected with a 10ml barrel out of necessity a couple times. Man it draws fast but it takes a team of horses to push that shit back out a 25 guage. Makes perfect sense but for some reason I didnt foresee this lol
29 guage works great with valQuote:
Originally Posted by Family_guy
I use a 1 1/2" 22G to draw and pin. Same needle. Using it to draw with kind of dulls it a little but you get used to it.
22 is a good piece of steel.Quote:
Originally Posted by 600@50
I tip my hat.
Personally I draw w a 31g and then go visit my friends on Saturn, by the time I return it's about halfway done or soQuote:
Originally Posted by kbunyan
In all seriousness.. I feel like waiting a min or so each time probably is worth avoiding the eventual hand slip and then putting in a hole in my hand with the 20g lmao
It really dulls somewhat when you draw from 2 different vials then pin. But at my age and been doing this for so long it ain't no big deal. However Terumo brand pins are a little sharper than BD. :wg:Quote:
Originally Posted by Obs
Terumo... I will try those.Quote:
Originally Posted by 600@50
My first cycle I ran with cattle needles I purcgased at a feed store.
It sucked.
I would jam it in an have to cover the hole up with my finger to keep the med in.
I even washed and reused them.
16-18 guage
I am thankful for 25's today
I think sr is gso and MCT from what I've read on thier subforum a while ago. I think it's the amount of EO they use that gets it so thin and smooth. Could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obs
Isn’t val MCT too? How do they compare in terms of viscosity of the Test E for example compared to other brands? It seems thin to me but it’s the only gear I’ve ever used so I don’t really know!Quote:
Originally Posted by Obs
I draw with an 18G and, generally, inject with a 24G. I did use injectable Winstrol (Use is a strong term) but the ONLY way I could get that into my glute was by using an 18G to also inject. I only did that 2-times and gave up.
.. what the fuck is this real life?? 18g to inject ?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by tarmyg
That is one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Pretty sure shooting yourself point blank with a BB gun would be less painful lol.. did the injections leave scars?
No marks from it but it was a less that pleasant experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiddlesticks
The Terumo brand is sharper and has a finer finish than the BD. If you use them just to pin you should feel a difference. But if you use the same needle to draw and pin it'll defeat the purpose. They're usually more expensive than BD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obs
Nope, but like many who commented already, I draw with a 20 or 23g and pin with a 25g. I also just go ahead and pin with the 23g sometimes as it's not bad at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbunyan
I need to get some smaller pins. I draw with an 18 and inject with a 1 1/2" 22g. I can push it out of the syringe easy though lol.
I take it the sediment of the suspension woyld plug the needle?Quote:
Originally Posted by tarmyg
I had a horrible time with some water based test suspension. I could not get it through anything without loading a pocket of air with it, keeping it shook up after insertion, and then shoving the plunger hard and fast, without pause.
Most of it went in my pecks just so I could lean forward and backward to keep it shook up after insertion.
I am sure it looked as stupid as it was.
You guys are fucking masochists lmao
WATER based suspenion... OIL based tren suspension caused me so much pain I was practically hallucinating. Dont even wanna imagine water fuck ...
Yes Sir, exactly what it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obs
I draw with a 23 ga, anything bigger and it tends to eat the rubber stopper and then oil leaks out of I lose the air seal and it’s a pain to draw up.
I use a 27ga whenever I can, but with some oils it takes a while and when in an awkward reach around position applying force for 2-3 ml through the 27 can’t help but wiggle the pin around a bit, so sometimes will just use a 25 to be in and out. For quads def use a 27 though.
A note is the smaller diameter the syringe the more force is generated to push the oil, so easier to use a small diameter 1ml for a 1ml injection than a 3 ml or 5ml. but if tip is not a Luer lock on the 1ml the force can pop the syringe off the needle.
All I can say about water is that if short esters bother you, DO NOT shoot it sub Q in the belly fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiddlesticks
I had to drain an abcess and it burned like hell upon impact. I would shoot it there when my pecks got too sore and carry a lump in the fat for weeks. I did it because I could not get the darn stuff in me unless I had it in front keeping it shook. I would shoot it and wait for the fire. It was like acid. Shoot, yell, and repeat
Finally the abcess was the last straw.
That stuff was a pain in the ass but it was instantaneous results.