Blast critique

40
5’9
184 lbs
10.5% bf

Current hrt protocol:
40mg test-c 2x/week
500iu hcg 2x/week
.25 mg arimadex 2x/week

Self medicating:
2.7 iu pharm hgh 5 on 2 off
100mch t3 daily

Proposed blast 14 weeks (500mg test, 300mg deca)

250 mg test-c 2x/week
150 mg deca 2x/week
500 iu hcg 2x/week
.25 mg arimadex 2x/week
75 mg anavar daily weeks 7-14
50 mg proviron daily

-Goal is lean out and grow lean muscle tissue and drop bf %
-I’ll run the hgh for the next 2 years if not for life
-can I reduce the hcg to 250iu 2x/week? I plan on possibly having another kid in the upcoming months
-is that enough deca considering I don’t really want to bulk?
-what would be best to add in weeks 1-4 to kick start?
-does frontloading deca still make sense?
-what can I add for prolactin? Mast? Or something else?

What do you think? Thanks in advance :madd:

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Originally Posted by Facecrash

40
5’9
184 lbs
10.5% bf

Current hrt protocol:
80 mg test-c 2x/week
500iu hcg 2x/week
.25 mg arimadex every day

Self medicating:
2.7 iu pharm hgh 5 on 2 off
100mch t3 daily

Proposed blast 14 weeks (500mg test, 300mg deca)

250 mg test-c 2x/week
150 mg deca 2x/week
500 iu hcg 2x/week
.25 mg arimadex 2x/week
75 mg anavar daily weeks 7-14
50 mg proviron daily

-Goal is lean out and grow lean muscle tissue and drop bf %
-I’ll run the hgh for the next 2 years if not for life
-can I reduce the hcg to 250iu 2x/week? I plan on possibly having another kid in the upcoming months
-is that enough deca considering I don’t really want to bulk?
-what would be best to add in weeks 1-4 to kick start?
-does frontloading deca still make sense?
-what can I add for prolactin? Mast? Or something else?

What do you think? Thanks in advance :madd:

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Doesn't make sense that on 160 mg/week of cyp you take .25mg of a'dex daily, which is a lot...a whole lot, and then on blast of 500mg cyp/week you drop back to .25mg of a'dex 2x/week.

Also, since this is more cycle related, it will be moved to Q&A for more input.

Also, 250iu of HCG 2x/week is plenty for most guys on TRT or blast.

Doubt you will have any PRL issues on 300mg of Deca/week.

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Originally Posted by almostgone

Doesn't make sense that on 160 mg/week of cyp you take .25mg of a'dex daily, which is a lot...a whole lot, and then on blast of 500mg cyp/week you drop back to .25mg of a'dex 2x/week.

Also, since this is more cycle related, it will be moved to Q&A for more input.

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Man, I had 2 mistakes which I edited in the original post. I take only 40mg test twice per week so 80mg/week total. Also I take arimadex .25mg twice per week not everyday. Sorry about that.

I’m aware the .25 is a lot still but I’ve been gyno prone my whole life. I am going to talk to my doc about lowering hcg and tapering off a-see while cruising on my hrt dose

No worries, it just caught my eye. Honestly, .25mg 2x/week is a lot of a'dex for 80mg of cyp/week. If your labs indicate the need for it and your dialed on at a good value for you, then so be it.

I agree with lowering the HCG to 250iu 2x/week. Like many things, more is not better.

If you are truly gyno prone, I would consider adding in nolvadex during your blast.

I would find a way to remove your AI because it's a lot for the low dose of Test and imo an AI is extremely toxic to the male endocrine system. I would personally do chemotherapy before signing up to be on an AI for life.

You can try to increase the frequency of injections to E3D or 3x per week. I would also add in DIM starting somewhere around 200mg daily. Vitamin D3 is also extremely important hormone.

In terms of your blast, if you are Gyno prone then I would be adding in another compound rather than increasing test. For example 400mg of Primo with your 80mg of TRT and 300mg of Deca.

I feel really good on 400-500mg test typically. I am able to keep gyno at bay mostly with ai.

In the past I did have prl issues w deca. Would the proviron help? Would you add in last? Also should I double the deca dose first 2 weeks to frontload? Or is it better to add in tbol or diol?

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Originally Posted by Facecrash

I feel really good on 400-500mg test typically. I am able to keep gyno at bay mostly with ai.

In the past I did have prl issues w deca. Would the proviron help? Would you add in last? Also should I double the deca dose first 2 weeks to frontload? Or is it better to add in tbol or diol?

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Front loading just going to be personal choice and how you respond. I don't but many do. I wouldn't consider double the dose in the first two weeks a front load though.

For me, adding high mg of estrogenic compounds like Test / Dbol with an AI is like eating a ribeye steak but cutting out all the fat. The main purpose of estrogen rich compounds is to get the benefits of the estrogen.

Prolactin is best controlled with Cabergoline.

Many people are gyno-prone and/or feel they need to have an AI. This is why compounds that don't have estrogen properties are a lot more appealing. Examples = Masteron, Primobolan, Equipoise, etc.

Thanks. Given what you know about my goals and experience what would be a bomb cycle you’d recommend? Also I’m going to push it back 2 months when I’ll be 3 months into hgh cycle and start seeing the results of the hgh

Ok finally got a good grip on my hrt and how I bounce down after blasts. My goal is to get to 7.5%bf shredded and add 12 lbs lean mass. I also want to have an awesome fuckin time, work my balls off, keep my
Mindset at 1000%, crush some puss, get my body to a ridiculous peak performance state. And crush some puss

40
5’9 179lbs today
10% bf
I feel great. Best shape of my life and hrt dialed in.

Current hrt:
80mg test c. (40mg 2x/wk)
.50 Arimadex. (.25 2x/week)
1000iu hcg. (250iu 2x/week)

Self medicating:

-hgh pharm geno pen: 4.05 iu daily (5 on 2 off) started 4 weeks ago

-proviron: 50mg per day

-Tito’s vodka & Canada Dry seltzer: 6x/week

Blast:

-week 1-16: 500mg test c, (250mg 2x/week. FRONTLOAD: 1000mg weeks 1-2)

-week 1-16: 300mg deca (150mg 2x/week with FRONTLOAD: 600mg weeks 1-2)

-week 1-16: 50mg proviron daily

-week 1-16:.25 arimadex 2x/week

-week 1-16: 400mg masteron (200mg 2x/week)

I’ll keep the hcg at 500iu 2x/week until I finish and go back to hrt at which time I’ll lower hcg to half and arimadex to half for 30 days then talk to doc about eliminating.

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Originally Posted by Facecrash

Ok finally got a good grip on my hrt and how I bounce down after blasts. My goal is to get to 7.5%bf shredded and add 12 lbs lean mass. I also want to have an awesome fuckin time, work my balls off, keep my
Mindset at 1000%, crush some puss, get my body to a ridiculous peak performance state. And crush some puss

40
5’9 179lbs today
10% bf
I feel great. Best shape of my life and hrt dialed in.

Current hrt:
80mg test c. (40mg 2x/wk)
.50 Arimadex. (.25 2x/week)
1000iu hcg. (250iu 2x/week)

Self medicating:

-hgh pharm geno pen: 4.05 iu daily (5 on 2 off) started 4 weeks ago

-proviron: 50mg per day

-Tito’s vodka & Canada Dry seltzer: 6x/week

Blast:

-week 1-16: 500mg test c, (250mg 2x/week. FRONTLOAD: 1000mg weeks 1-2)

-week 1-16: 300mg deca (150mg 2x/week with FRONTLOAD: 600mg weeks 1-2)

-week 1-16: 50mg proviron daily

-week 1-16:.25 arimadex 2x/week

-week 1-16: 400mg masteron (200mg 2x/week)

I’ll keep the hcg at 500iu 2x/week until I finish and go back to hrt at which time I’ll lower hcg to half and arimadex to half for 30 days then talk to doc about eliminating.

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No reason to double your HCG dosage. The rest looks solid enough. Keep a log.

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Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars

No reason to double your HCG dosage. The rest looks solid enough. Keep a log.

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Yes please do a log! I’d love to follow brother

I'm just curious, you take .5 Adex/wk on your 80mg hrt dose of Test, and you take the same .5wk on your 500mg Test cycle? I'm just curious what the thinking is there? Not judging, just wondering why so much Adex on your HRT dose?

And I agree, you should log about it.

Best of luck,
C-

That much AI with so little Test for HRT is almost like not being on HRT at all because the AI is going to tank and skew your hormone ratios.

It's also a very toxic drug.


I personally like the HCG dosage at 1000IU per week. It's what I use rather than the 250IU 2x (500IU total). No science behind it just anecdote.

If you can find nandrolone no ester and don't mind the price - it works like a Frontload but better.

I like 19nors to be higher than Test but your mileage may vary.

I had something very similar planned with the exception of

No frontloading

keeping my test at my trt dose 175 mg a week

Deca 250mg a week injected once a week

Masteron at 200mg a week

No proviron

Caber only if i start having issues

Best of luck to you!

Duplicate threads merged.

Ok finalized this from taking your advice and starting today here’s my blast. I’ll keep a lot the best I can but my schedule is nuts so if I can’t be consistent I won’t do it. Main change was dbol, Anavar and injecting the deca once per week instead of twice. Cool?

finally got a good grip on my hrt and how I bounce down after blasts. My goal is to get to 7.5%bf shredded and add 12 lbs lean mass. I also want to have an awesome fuckin time, work my balls off, keep my
Mindset at 1000%, crush some puss, get my body to a ridiculous peak performance state. And crush some puss

40
5’9 179lbs today
10% bf
I feel great. Best shape of my life and hrt dialed in.

Current hrt:
80mg test c. (40mg 2x/wk)
.50 Arimadex. (.25 2x/week)
1000iu hcg . (250iu 2x/week)

Self medicating:

-hgh pharm geno pen: 4.05 iu daily (5 on 2 off) started 4 weeks ago

-proviron : 50mg per day

-Tito’s vodka & Canada Dry seltzer: 6x/week

Blast:

-week 1-16: 500mg test c, (250mg 2x/week. No front load)

-week 1-16: 300mg deca (300mg 1x/week. No front load)

-week 1-16: 50mg proviron daily

-week 1-16:.25 arimadex 2x/week

-week 1-16: 400mg masteron prop (135mg 3x/week)

-week 1-4: 50mg dbol daily
-week 4-8: 25mg dbol daily

-week 11-16: 75mg anavar daily

Windex - you have any more info on AI’s being extremely toxic to male endocrine system? Want to run this by my doc to gauge their concern. Your chemo comment was unsettling.

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Originally Posted by Tim1985

Windex - you have any more info on AI’s being extremely toxic to male endocrine system? Want to run this by my doc to gauge their concern. Your chemo comment was unsettling.

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They can be found on NIH/NLM and are talked about ad nauseam among popular online people (Anabolic Doc, Palumbo, Jay cutlers doctor - don't remember his name, etc).

If you logically think about the origin of the drug it makes a lot of sense. AI were created for people with cancer. It was not created for bodybuilders, people on HRT, or anything outside of a person with breast cancer. So taking a drug that is designed to reduce cancer while not having cancer is going to cause problems.

It's no different than if you were taking narcotics without being in pain, or a benzo without sleeping disorder, Epipen without an allergic reaction, etc. Any pharmaceutical not taken for its intended purpose always has negative consequences.

95% of doctors understand 5% of HRT.

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Originally Posted by Windex

They can be found on NIH/NLM and are talked about ad nauseam among popular online people (Anabolic Doc, Palumbo, Jay cutlers doctor - don't remember his name, etc).

If you logically think about the origin of the drug it makes a lot of sense. AI were created for people with cancer. It was not created for bodybuilders, people on HRT, or anything outside of a person with breast cancer. So taking a drug that is designed to reduce cancer while not having cancer is going to cause problems.

It's no different than if you were taking narcotics without being in pain, or a benzo without sleeping disorder, Epipen without an allergic reaction, etc. Any pharmaceutical not taken for its intended purpose always has negative consequences.

95% of doctors understand 5% of HRT.

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I wasn't aware they were toxic to the endocrine system, makes sense though sing you're fucking w it. I have heard adex in particular reeks havoc w your lipid profile and aromasin was recommended even though you have to dose it more often for that reason

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