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    The more I read the more I realise I have no idea..

    So I found out recently that Iím the golden era there was no such thing as pct!
    As all my knowledge basically comes from these stickies and YouTube videos It didnít compute lol. I understood that pct was compulsory to get back or at least as close back to what you was before..

    If there was no pct and aperently they ate ďdbol like candyĒ am I to believe that Arnie looking how he did was in Cali and never got laid. Or at least never got laid without useing viagra?
    Does viagra work always?

    Also if all the steroids available now was available then do you thing they would stick to their tren /primo/dbol/var?
    Like have steroids got safer since then or worse? I know I hear tren is master??

    Iím thinking to stick to the type of cycles they ran in the golden era, as a lot of them are still here with us, they have their hair they have children and aperently their health.. Iím talking the likes of arnie/Yates/rick/Lou even the likes of sylvester lol

    How is this even possible if they abused roids like they do and never run pct?
    Has arnie been on for like 50years straight lol.

    I donít even know what Iím getting at lol. Iím just confused I guess!

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    We have nearly instant access to so much more information than the Golden Era people did that it isn't fair to look at what they did in their time. I mean, friggin' Franco Columbo stepped on stage (and won) the '81 Olympia with some pretty obvious gyno. If you are a pro BB, there is no way in 2019 you should let that happen.

    I believe we can learn more from this board than the guys like Arnold, etc would ever have had a chance to in the 70s. Not enough 'test subjects' to gather in one place. Here we have a collective of knowledge and experiences that blows away anything they had in the Golden Era.

    Read, learn, experiment, repeat.

    That's my overpriced 2 cents
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    Research and trial and error. Read as much as you can I researched a decade before taking the plunge. Now 12 years later I’m still learning.
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    Fwiw, Franco was the best imho even to this day.

    Pound for pound no one cane close
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Fwiw, Franco was the best imho even to this day.

    Pound for pound no one cane close
    Larry wheels might have him beat at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Larry wheels might have him beat at this point
    True. True.
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    I also don't understand how Arnold was even able to have kids when he was taking dbol at age 15. And how did they come off steroids completely for 6 months at a time, without looking like complete garbage? Of course, videos only show us what they want us to see. Back then there wasn't social media and YouTube to show us how Arnold looked off season. Still, you'd think these guys would have had major health/libido/psychological issues with no pct, no HCG , etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I also don't understand how Arnold was even able to have kids when he was taking dbol at age 15. And how did they come off steroids completely for 6 months at a time, without looking like complete garbage? Of course, videos only show us what they want us to see. Back then there wasn't social media and YouTube to show us how Arnold looked off season. Still, you'd think these guys would have had major health/libido/psychological issues with no pct, no HCG, etc.
    Yep...
    It’s almost like all that “scary” stuff you hear got way blown out of proportion or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I also don't understand how Arnold was even able to have kids when he was taking dbol at age 15. And how did they come off steroids completely for 6 months at a time, without looking like complete garbage? Of course, videos only show us what they want us to see. Back then there wasn't social media and YouTube to show us how Arnold looked off season. Still, you'd think these guys would have had major health/libido/psychological issues with no pct, no HCG, etc.
    Because probably never came off.

    Dude was jacked year round since he was a teen.

    There is a lot of info that isn't being spoken of from pro bb's

    They don't release their recipes and tell the full truth .
    We just know and assume they use gear... That's pretty much it.

    So don't assume they come off and then go back on. Most pros never come off.

    Aronald to this day is still pretty big . I would have no doubts he's at least running high trt doses

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    Not to sound all Hallmarky, but its less about the gear, and more about the focus. The shear force of will. Arnold, Franco, Phil, Jay... Henry Ford, Edison, Churchill....They had an intensity and a drive that normal people *think* they can understand, but they can't. Sure, physiology, food, gear all help. PCT, or not... On cycle, or off... All secondary to force of will and determination, IMHO.

    Good thread,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Fwiw, Franco was the best imho even to this day.

    Pound for pound no one cane close
    Oh I'm definitely a Franco fan, mostly because he was a source of inspiration (being as he is a short guy like myself). I even bought one of his first books (Winning Bodybuilding, I think) a LONG time ago. He and Ed Coan are definite faves of mine (Coan being another member of the 5'7" and under club).

    That said, 1981 wasn't Franco's best year. I was stream of consciousness'ing youtube the other day and saw a video on the '81 Olympia. Despite that fact that I do admire Franco, there were others on stage that year that deserved the win. Just one dude's opinion and no harsh intended (well, except maybe to Franco's condition that year )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post

    If there was no pct and aperently they ate ďdbol like candyĒ am I to believe that Arnie looking how he did was in Cali and never got laid. Or at least never got laid without useing viagra?

    Does viagra work always?

    How is this even possible if they abused roids like they do and never run pct?
    Has arnie been on for like 50years straight lol.

    I donít even know what Iím getting at lol. Iím just confused I guess!
    Bro, do you really think with all that muscle he had he came off? I honestly don't think so...
    Of course they didn't PCT because they probably never came off.
    Plus, most of these guys got to the point where they had enough money to have doctors working for them to watch their health and help them when they wanted to have kids etc.
    They may have not had access to all the info we have now, but they surely had gurus that were assisting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    ...If there was no pct and aperently they ate ďdbol like candyĒ am I to believe that Arnie looking how he did was in Cali and never got laid. Or at least never got laid without useing viagra?...
    Did you never notice that all of Arnie's women are fugly? I wouldn't have fucked 'em either, not even to get part of the Kennedy fortune..
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    Beyond gear they are just on another level of willpower and focus like previously mentioned.

    - Dorian lived in a dungeon

    - Arnold missed his fathers funeral

    - Jay Cutler would hang up on people over the phone if they were negative or giving off negative vibes

    etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    Oh I'm definitely a Franco fan, mostly because he was a source of inspiration (being as he is a short guy like myself). I even bought one of his first books (Winning Bodybuilding, I think) a LONG time ago. He and Ed Coan are definite faves of mine (Coan being another member of the 5'7" and under club).

    That said, 1981 wasn't Franco's best year. I was stream of consciousness'ing youtube the other day and saw a video on the '81 Olympia. Despite that fact that I do admire Franco, there were others on stage that year that deserved the win. Just one dude's opinion and no harsh intended (well, except maybe to Franco's condition that year )
    The more I read the more I realise I have no idea..-ikpbyky.jpg

    I think the deserved the win.

    Look at the striations all through his muscles, especially pecs.

    And hung like a horse is par for the course for 5'6" italians.

    Look at Ken Weller in the back like "wtf is Franco blasting... I quit!"
    Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
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    I think the deserved the win.

    Look at the striations all through his muscles, especially pecs.

    And hung like a horse is par for the course for 5'6" italians.

    Look at Ken Weller in the back like "wtf is Franco blasting... I quit!"
    Lol.
    It’s hard to say. Platz is bringing the same package without moobs, better legs, and a stronger jawline.

    Danny Padilla’s triceps look insane in that picture.

    The separation between Franco’s upper and lower chest is crazy

    Ken Waller looks like he’s stuck in Men’s physique
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
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    I think the deserved the win.

    Look at the striations all through his muscles, especially pecs.

    And hung like a horse is par for the course for 5'6" italians.

    Look at Ken Weller in the back like "wtf is Franco blasting... I quit!"
    Lol.
    Lmao! Just so happens that your a 5’6 Italian right??
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    Have you guys ever heard Gregg Valentino's stories on Franco? Dude apparently was hitting on his wife right in front of him lol... Then after a bodybuilding show they were all supposed to take a limo back to the hotel, and Franco got in by himself and told the driver to take off, leaving everyone hanging. Don't know if they're true, but interesting and funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Lmao! Just so happens that your a 5’6 Italian right??
    Yep.

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    I get that they have the willpower, determination and vision that most cannot contemplate, that’s why there the greats. But how do you focus on being able to have kids after 20 years of aas abuse.
    , to have The determination for his hair to not fall, The vision to look relatively young...
    I do wish they would just tell all. I mean how much knowledge could arnie drop if he tell exactly what he’s run and for how long and what’s he’s done to keep himself staying fit..
    But they guy above ca_ is most properly right, they had docs looking after them every step of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
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    Look at Ken Weller in the back like "wtf is Franco blasting... I quit!"
    Lol.
    ������

    ^ was meant to be crying laughing smiley lol
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    This is the video I was talking about re '81 Olympia.

    BB is a bit subjective (as we have demonstrated in this thread) - one year the mass monster wins, the next year symmetry is more important, the year after that your glutes need to be shredded. That has to be frustrating as hell. How do you prepare for that?

    Edit: just to be clear, I'm not trying to beat up on Franco. He is arguably one of the greatest of the Iron Game. My point is that if one of the greats of the Golden Era could show up on stage with gyno, then maybe they still had something to learn about cycling and supporting drugs. In another 30 years, the will say the same thing about the current generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    I get that they have the willpower, determination and vision that most cannot contemplate, thatís why there the greats. But how do you focus on being able to have kids after 20 years of aas abuse.
    , to have The determination for his hair to not fall, The vision to look relatively young...
    I do wish they would just tell all. I mean how much knowledge could arnie drop if he tell exactly what heís run and for how long and whatís heís done to keep himself staying fit..
    But they guy above ca_ is most properly right, they had docs looking after them every step of the way.
    To be fair, Arnold would probably be dead if he was a regular pedestrian. I think most bodybuilders want to keep the illusion that the results they had were a result of what you mentioned: willpower, determination, and vision. We now know that's a bunch of bs. A lot of the regular, non-bodybuilding population still think that those physiques can be achieved with hard work. Personally, I lose a little respect for someone who lies about what it took to achieve their results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Have you guys ever heard Gregg Valentino's stories on Franco? Dude apparently was hitting on his wife right in front of him lol... Then after a bodybuilding show they were all supposed to take a limo back to the hotel, and Franco got in by himself and told the driver to take off, leaving everyone hanging. Don't know if they're true, but interesting and funny.
    I would trust a man who had 0 problem draining cups of bloody oil and pus out of his arm and recording it lol. Greg doesn't give a fuck, crazy or not the man is not a liar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I also don't understand how Arnold was even able to have kids when he was taking dbol at age 15. And how did they come off steroids completely for 6 months at a time, without looking like complete garbage? Of course, videos only show us what they want us to see. Back then there wasn't social media and YouTube to show us how Arnold looked off season. Still, you'd think these guys would have had major health/libido/psychological issues with no pct, no HCG, etc.
    Dont forget he abused basically every rec drug at the time including booze. Not really related but apparently markus ruhl smoked 3 packs of ciggerates a day during his heyday lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    I would trust a man who had 0 problem draining cups of bloody oil and pus out of his arm and recording it lol. Greg doesn't give a fuck, crazy or not the man is not a liar
    I like Valentino alot. Yes the man gives no fucks.

    That video was pure madness. Lol

    That friggin pin was so bent and dull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    I would trust a man who had 0 problem draining cups of bloody oil and pus out of his arm and recording it lol. Greg doesn't give a fuck, crazy or not the man is not a liar
    I've been a fan of his since 2007. I definitely believe him, but I always put that there because a lot of people don't know who he is and would assume what he's saying is a lie - just like his "synthol" arms, which was just a hematoma from his kid hitting him with a bat, as you know. I follow him on Youtube. Joe Pietaro is kind of a scummy dude imo, but if Gregg is close to him, he can't be that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    So I found out recently that Iím the golden era there was no such thing as pct!
    As all my knowledge basically comes from these stickies and YouTube videos It didnít compute lol. I understood that pct was compulsory to get back or at least as close back to what you was before..

    If there was no pct and aperently they ate ďdbol like candyĒ am I to believe that Arnie looking how he did was in Cali and never got laid. Or at least never got laid without useing viagra?
    Does viagra work always?

    Also if all the steroids available now was available then do you thing they would stick to their tren /primo/dbol/var?
    Like have steroids got safer since then or worse? I know I hear tren is master??

    Iím thinking to stick to the type of cycles they ran in the golden era, as a lot of them are still here with us, they have their hair they have children and aperently their health.. Iím talking the likes of arnie/Yates/rick/Lou even the likes of sylvester lol

    How is this even possible if they abused roids like they do and never run pct?
    Has arnie been on for like 50years straight lol.

    I donít even know what Iím getting at lol. Iím just confused I guess!
    He blasted and cruised or was always on. No need for pct.

    Cycling is a circle jerk waste of time for a competitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    Did you never notice that all of Arnie's women are fugly? I wouldn't have fucked 'em either, not even to get part of the Kennedy fortune..
    I would hit it.
    At least twice.

    I would beat the shit out of sally field in "stay hungry"

    I would grip her waist like a dumbell one handed and use her as a stroker to mastrubate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I like Valentino alot. Yes the man gives no fucks.

    That video was pure madness. Lol

    That friggin pin was so bent and dull.
    The way his " bicep" would flick back into place after he would yank that 16g out fast as fuck was horrifying

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    The way his " bicep" would flick back into place after he would yank that 16g out fast as fuck was horrifying
    Yeah, the first time I saw that documentary "the man who's arms exploded" I think I was in 7th or 8th grade.

    It really was fucked at the time.

    It molded my perception of steroids for a long time

    I love the way he was so cavalier and nonchalant about it.

    "I was dropping fucking needles on the floor, I didn't give a fuck, I jamned it back in. 90 minutes of this before I decided to go to the hospital"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Yeah, the first time I saw that documentary "the man who's arms exploded" I think I was in 7th or 8th grade.

    It really was fucked at the time.

    It molded my perception of steroids for a long time

    I love the way he was so cavalier and nonchalant about it.

    "I was dropping fucking needles on the floor, I didn't give a fuck, I jamned it back in. 90 minutes of this before I decided to go to the hospital"
    Reality of "steroids" for many people, painless 29g or even smaller needle for a few ccs a week.

    Normal people perception, horse sized dart pulling cups of blood out of your oil ballon biceps everyday. That dude single handedly has contributed to making steroids a massive controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Reality of "steroids " for many people, painless 29g or even smaller needle for a few ccs a week.

    Normal people perception, horse sized dart pulling cups of blood out of your oil ballon biceps everyday. That dude single handedly has contributed to making steroids a massive controversy.
    Thats so accurate...
    I love it when people bring up one of these .001%ers in any discussion about steroids.

    “That’s gross, why wouldn’t you just do it naturally?”

    Natural body building is like being Amish. Sure you can do it, but it’s stupid. If we were all going to live forever I guess I could fathom spending the time to do so, but we don’t, and I can’t. There’s no point in using a horse cart when you have a peterbilt at your disposal.

    ”...but I don’t want to get too big”
    Don’t worry. You won’t.
    (and by the time you do the body dysmorphia will be in full swing, and you wont think you’re big anyway)

    ”Steroids seem like cheating...”
    Cheating at what? Life? Stop being a pussy, enter the unlimited ammunition code, and start being a universal soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    Thats so accurate...
    I love it when people bring up one of these .001%ers in any discussion about steroids .

    “That’s gross, why wouldn’t you just do it naturally?”

    Natural body building is like being Amish. Sure you can do it, but it’s stupid. If we were all going to live forever I guess I could fathom spending the time to do so, but we don’t, and I can’t. There’s no point in using a horse cart when you have a peterbilt at your disposal.

    ”...but I don’t want to get too big”
    Don’t worry. You won’t.
    (and by the time you do the body dysmorphia will be in full swing, and you wont think you’re big anyway)

    ”Steroids seem like cheating...”
    Cheating at what? Life? Stop being a pussy, enter the unlimited ammunition code, and start being a universal soldier.
    Anyone that says steroids are cheating need to make sure they dont drive a car, live in a house or use electricity since those are also cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    Natural body building is like being Amish. Sure you can do it, but itís stupid.
    Hey now... Be careful. You never know who might be Amish around here.

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    If we were all going to live forever I guess I could fathom spending the time to do so, but we donít, and I canít. Thereís no point in using a horse cart when you have a peterbilt at your disposal.
    That's the thing. Even if you had forever to get jacked it wouldn't make a difference. I trained naturally for 17 years and only saw progress the first 5 years, if that. The rest was just delusions of trying to get big. I only fucked my joints and tendons up the other 12 years. Natty lifting is really pointless after a while. Even on gear I'm barely making progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    That's the thing. Even if you had forever to get jacked it wouldn't make a difference. I trained naturally for 17 years and only saw progress the first 5 years, if that. The rest was just delusions of trying to get big. I only fucked my joints and tendons up the other 12 years. Natty lifting is really pointless after a while. Even on gear I'm barely making progress.
    Time to start eating peanut butter by the spoonful or switch from drinking water to coconut / olive oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Time to start eating peanut butter by the spoonful or switch from drinking water to coconut / olive oil.
    I thought of shooting up peanut butter. Would an insulin needle work?

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