Libido drop off mid cycle

**PrairieDawg** · 05-21-2019, 04:53 PM

I'm in about week 6 of my cycle and my libido went from full on to nothing in one day. It's been like this for 4 days now. Cialis doesn't even help.

My cycle is this,
Test Prop 150mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD
HCG 2iu/week
Prami 0.25mg ED

I haven't taken a single anti estrogen thus far. I'm thinking maybe my estrogen levels are elevated? Or could my prolactin be too low? With work the way it is there's no way I'll have time to get bloodwork done any time soon.

Just going off this info what would be the most likely culprit be??

**Ephemeral** · 05-21-2019, 05:19 PM

How much HCG is 2ml/week in IU? It seems wrong unless your stuff is extremely diluted.

**PrairieDawg** · 05-21-2019, 05:23 PM

Sorry meant 2iu/week

**SampsonandDelilah** · 05-21-2019, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by PrairieDawg

I'm in about week 6 of my cycle and my libido went from full on to nothing in one day. It's been like this for 4 days now. Cialis doesn't even help.

My cycle is this,
Test Prop 150mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD
HCG 2iu/week
Prami 0.25mg ED

I haven't taken a single anti estrogen thus far. I'm thinking maybe my estrogen levels are elevated? Or could my prolactin be too low? With work the way it is there's no way I'll have time to get bloodwork done any time soon.

Just going off this info what would be the most likely culprit be??

Is it your libido (sexual desire) or is it your erections? Big difference there.
I’m running a similar cycle (Enth and cyp though) and my ED got under control when I lowered the test to TRT range. I’m not running prami, caber or an AI. Has to be either estrogen or prolactin as you said. Hard to tell without bloods. Could try dropping the test amount (2-300 weekly range), and cutting the prami...I also noticed a difference when I added Mast P (100 EOD).

Worked for me for sure.
I’m sure some others will chime in too. I also took some time to practice “solo” so I could get out of my fucking head when the real game time started and that seemed to help too. Getting over the mental block. Good luck bro

**PrairieDawg** · 05-21-2019, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah

Is it your libido (sexual desire) or is it your erections? Big difference there.
I’m running a similar cycle (Enth and cyp though) and my ED got under control when I lowered the test to TRT range. I’m not running prami, caber or an AI. Has to be either estrogen or prolactin as you said. Hard to tell without bloods. Could try dropping the test amount (2-300 weekly range), and cutting the prami...I also noticed a difference when I added Mast P (100 EOD).

Worked for me for sure.
I’m sure some others will chime in too. I also took some time to practice “solo” so I could get out of my fucking head when the real game time started and that seemed to help too. Getting over the mental block. Good luck bro

It's more the erections. I'm thinking taking an AI and taking the prami EOD. I could drop the test too and see where that goes.

**SampsonandDelilah** · 05-21-2019, 06:20 PM

Thanks for clarifying. Have you run tren before? I’ve never had to run prami or caber with Tren dosages up to 500 a week, that’s just me though. Your tren dose doesn’t seem to high, I’d cut the prami to at least EOD if not all together and try dropping the test. It’s a place to start but as you know, kind chasing things in the dark without bloods. I think that’s a good place to start and then grab some porn and see if you can make some magic happen without your old lady staring up at you

**PrairieDawg** · 05-21-2019, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah

Thanks for clarifying. Have you run tren before? I’ve never had to run prami or caber with Tren dosages up to 500 a week, that’s just me though. Your tren dose doesn’t seem to high, I’d cut the prami to at least EOD if not all together and try dropping the test. It’s a place to start but as you know, kind chasing things in the dark without bloods. I think that’s a good place to start and then grab some porn and see if you can make some magic happen without your old lady staring up at you

Yeah I've ran tren a few times. The first time the dose was 150mg/eod and I got limp dick halfway through. I've ran prami .25 ED on my 100mg/EOD cycles since then. I've probably had this same problem with the others so I'm thinking you're right about dropping the prami. I just assumed it was my estrogen levels. Even when I had limp dick with the first cycle my doctor said my prolactin levels were normal. I know bloods would be best but I'm working in a pretty remote area right now so it would be impossible.

**Windex** · 05-21-2019, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by PrairieDawg

It's more the erections. I'm thinking taking an AI and taking the prami EOD. I could drop the test too and see where that goes.

An AI could make matters worse as it's going to plummet your estrogen and your Test dose is fairly tame.

Bloodwork may guide you but I would wager the Prami dose is way too high. You may not even need it with your Tren dose tbh. Prami is a pretty polar drug for most people - either they can tolerate it 100% or they get all kinds of random side effects from A to Z. Also if it's in liquid form there's a chance it's not dosed correctly which makes matters more tricky. I prefer to keep Caber on hand for 19nors since Prami is so finicky and Bromo is a Unicorn drug imo.

**SampsonandDelilah** · 05-21-2019, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

An AI could make matters worse as it's going to plummet your estrogen and your Test dose is fairly tame.

Bloodwork may guide you but I would wager the Prami dose is way too high. You may not even need it with your Tren dose tbh. Prami is a pretty polar drug for most people - either they can tolerate it 100% or they get all kinds of random side effects from A to Z. Also if it's in liquid form there's a chance it's not dosed correctly which makes matters more tricky. I prefer to keep Caber on hand for 19nors since Prami is so finicky and Bromo is a Unicorn drug imo.

Agreed and .25 ED is still a pretty good dose.
Try lowering test and dropping prami for a week or two. Since you can’t get bloods done, I think that’s your best starting place. I know this is anecdotal but I literally just had the same issue with the test being too high and was having ED issues. Lowered the test to 250 a week, kept tren at 400, added Mast P, 100 EOD (no AI, no caber and no prami) and my soldier is back at full attention

**PrairieDawg** · 05-21-2019, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah

Agreed and .25 ED is still a pretty good dose.
Try lowering test and dropping prami for a week or two. Since you can’t get bloods done, I think that’s your best starting place. I know this is anecdotal but I literally just had the same issue with the test being too high and was having ED issues. Lowered the test to 250 a week, kept tren at 400, added Mast P, 100 EOD (no AI, no caber and no prami) and my soldier is back at full attention

I'm going to try that exactly actually. I have some mast on hand. It's worth seeing if it makes a difference.

**PrairieDawg** · 05-21-2019, 09:29 PM

Yeah that makes sense too. I'll hold off on the AI for now. Try one thing at a time. Process of elimination is the best I can do ATM. Thanks.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 05-21-2019, 09:53 PM

U could also add 500 mg DIM each day. And drop the DA.
First line of defense is always e2 handling, then prolactin defense. If necessary.
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**HoldMyBeer** · 05-22-2019, 03:58 AM

For me:
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Low e2 = no libido, no ED, anorgasmia (cant finishing)
High e2 = yes libido, ED
High prolactin = anorgasmia
.
Idk what your symptoms are exactly, but hopefully that will give you an idea of the issue and can adjust accordingly.
Blah blah get blood work blah blah (I usually try to go off how I feel for a couple weeks before dropping 200 dollars on BW and having the whole process of ordering, getting it done, and getting results take a couple weeks anyways because I'm one of those "poors")

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**SampsonandDelilah** · 05-22-2019, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

For me:
.
Low e2 = no libido, no ED, anorgasmia (cant finishing)
High e2 = yes libido, ED
High prolactin = anorgasmia
.
Idk what your symptoms are exactly, but hopefully that will give you an idea of the issue and can adjust accordingly.
Blah blah get blood work blah blah (I usually try to go off how I feel for a couple weeks before dropping 200 dollars on BW and having the whole process of ordering, getting it done, and getting results take a couple weeks anyways because I'm one of those "poors")

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That’s the exact same thing for me, high E2 is the worst culprit. I’d rather have a hard on and struggle to climax than have ED and my desires in tact. Even with high prolactin, if I take the reigns I can usually finish, it may take a while but it’s far more easily explainable and easier to deal with than not having any wind in my sails.

Good luck OP and keep us listed

**Slacker78** · 05-22-2019, 11:51 AM

Checking E2 is the first thing to do, given compounds you're using. Short esters don't mean NO E2 conversion/increasing ( Test Prop i mean, No Tren ). Further HCG is well-known increasing estrogens level. BW is a must, not guessing. I suppose your E2 is too much elevated. When this happen to me, sugar craving, ED and strong emotional state are behind the door. Sexual desire still exists but it's not strong, but ED is pretty evident and erections are very weak and does not last a lot.