does anybody know anything about clenbuterol? i know its a weight loss supplement just looking for information about it. or if anybody has ever taken it like side effects.
Thanks!
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does anybody know anything about clenbuterol? i know its a weight loss supplement just looking for information about it. or if anybody has ever taken it like side effects.
Thanks!
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Google is probably your best bet to learn more... But the short version is that it's an bronchodilator to help asthmatics breathe better. But in our world it's used more as a fat burner as it also has a thermogenic effect which raises body temperature a little bit.Originally Posted by Bama1212
I've cut using it, and I've cut without it. I think it's helpful if your diet and cardio are on point, if you cheat and eat like crap clen won't save you.
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no actually not a single person on this entire website knows what clenbuterol is lol
It helps your body expend extra energy and fat even at tiny (1mcg) doses, this really isn't a great thing though, it's stressful as fuck on your body and you are not going to live as long as you could if you are obsessed with having unnaturally low levels of fat constantly alongside taking clen.
im a person who thinks DNP isnt that big of a deal but no bullshit clen is pretty scary and definitely toxic, I've been prescribed adderall since I was 12 and have used it thousands of times throughout the years and it never gave me a single issue cardiac wise nor do I have cardiac problems in general but clen makes my chest sting after I've used it for maybe a week, it's not like a heart attack or anything but clearly something is wrong there. that isn't even including the absolutely disgusting mental side effects the drug has, if you thought you had anxiety before clen... hah
odd world we live in where people taking drugs like clen are admired and considered healthy :? sorry i got a personal problem with this substance and the culture around it
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Clen kicks my ass I can’t even workout or sleep while on it.
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Clen is
(1) Misunderstood
(2) Overrated relative to the results produced
(3) Can have steep side effects, especially relative to other compounds like T3, T4, etc
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I wonder how many people have put a nice sized hole in their hand from opening a drawing needle package while on clen lol
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What Charlie said!
Also, you might want to consider stacking ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin. Again, it's not going to help if your diet and cardio aren't dialed in, but the stack does offer a modest thermogenic effect. As with clen, it's very stimulating and may affect your sleep or anxiety level.
Having used clen and ECA stack in the past, as well as having dieted naturally, I'm inclined to go natural at this point (unless I decide to compete someday)
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Clen stimulation is not a euphoric stimulant sadly, pretty much the opposite, it's insane how bad it makes you feel.
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The worst was peeing every except in the toilet because of the violent tremors and shakes.
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Did you say no one on this site knows what clen is ?
Please tell me you're joking ?
And bro , you're using Adderall and using gear and ripping on people that use clen.
Just please do me a favor and think before you speak man. Pleaseeeeeee.
I get your young but this is your chance to think before you chime in
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You people are seriously miserable holy shit!
Get the fuck off whatever you're taking and honestly fuck off! You look like a fucking teenage boy and are talking about how you know alot about this sport!
Sorry not sorry, It's so fucking annoying when people who have not had the success are trying to refute stuff that I know to be accurate. Follow the advice everyone else says with little thought and you will end up looking like them.
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What's the purpose of this reply?
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Wow. This shit got bumped up a notch or two!
Fiddle and Chris to the principals office!
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Lmao !
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Yeah, that stood out to me as well. I think he was being sarcastic but the tone just didn't come through in the text
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it pisses me off even more when someone like yourself pretends to know so much about something you know very little about...its time to check yourself before you wreck yourself kid...clen is NOT a stimulant it is a beta 2 agonist and was designed for asthmatics and isn't even legal here in the united states because as you stated there are many side effects that out weighed the benefits...also remember that everyone is different and dose not react the exact same way you do...there is no need for the fuck offs but I see one coming my way so be it...
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I'll add some information here that a lot of people probably do not know .. Clen was used in the ranching industry for a long time until it was banned for such purposes by the FDA.. now why the heck would ranchers used Clen? to get their cattle stimmed out and lean. No. at high enough dosages clen is very anabolic and will upregulate protein synthesis. ranchers used clen to help put on quality tissue and increase the feed efficiency of their live stock.
as a beta agonist it will help with lipolysis as well and thats why you'll see it used in a lot of fat loss or cutting stacks. however if you skim through some of my threads you'll see I often times advocate using clen during 'cruise' phases or even when bulking. but I do have it stacked with T4, HGH, and Insulin. the 3 of these a very syerngetic together and will stimulate the production of an enzyme (can't remember the name of it) that is anabolic. you can get anabolic effects out of much lower dosages of clen this way.
so the benefit of using such a stack while cruising and off cycle, is again not for fat loss, but to stimulate anabolic growth factors apart for androgen receptor binding. so when off cycle you can continue to grow yet allow your AR's to re-sensitize.
I've got a few clients right now currently on an off cycle cruise utilizing 40mcg of clen per day. again NOT for fat loss purposes. at these low dosages 20-40mcg per day any negative side effects are not usually noticeable .
guys running that 80-100mcg range in an effort to lean out are the ones that usually run into some negative side effects
imo, Clen is a super useful bodybuilding drug. you just got to know how to utilize it and keep your dosages low. more is not better with clen. yes higher dosages can provide more anabolic effects, but to get those same effects with low dose you can simply add other compounds like HGH, slin, and T4 to work synergistically with it
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Here it is! F off
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Yall quit being pussies, my wife can handle 100mcg, and she's sensitive to stimulates lol. Seriously, clen and t3 works very well for me, but I never go over 100mcg, usually not over 80. And I like to take it 6 weeks on, with benadryl. Then I like to swap to eca
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Got to tell you, I had great results with small amounts of clen, t3 (and var).
But ultimately realized it was the clen that was making feel like absolute crap. I don’t see myself trying it again, felt that bad.
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for fat loss and getting shreddd, thats perfect.. also just to add some more info here. the reason why T3 works so well with Clen (actually reason why its almost a necessity),, IS that when taking clen it will raise your body temp. well guess what happens when your body temp is elevated (and it does not know its elevated from the clen), it automatically thinks your thyroid and metabolism are revving too fast. so what does the body do to lower that .. it starts slowing down its metabolism . so guess what, you need some T3 to keep that metabolism revving when your on clen
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That's what I ment to say lol
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for some people its just the opposite .. they can actually get addicted to clen. not just the stimulant effects but its ability to promote energy output (ie, performance enhancement) becomes something they depend on and seek.
for me personally. I do not tolerate clen very well at all. I've got heart issues since birth (hear murmur) and clen even at low dosage gives me palpitations. I can use 20mcg per day without issue for synergetic effects with a cycle , but I cannot use for fat loss.
its interesting.. I've rarely had female clients have issues with clen, but men clients often times do
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Why the Benadryl?
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Probably for relaxation and sleep...
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I have heard of taking Benadryl with Clen before. I assumed it was some synergy or something.
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I think it’s two fold. I’m parroting here so take this with a grain of salt. Like to give that caveat. From what I understand, the diphenhydramine down regulates beta receptors keeping the tolerance to clen from increasing. Benadryl slows desensitization of Beta receptors, so there is essentially a synergistic effect. The additional benefit is the anxiety and insomnia that comes with Clen and the diphenhydramine is also useful in circumventing those two sides.
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I'm not sure what your definition of stimulant is but clen is absolutely a stimulant, all stimulants interact with catehcholamines and are either directly or indirectly beta agonists in some way or another.
I'm not gonna get worked up about something dumb because this is just funny to me, I've already done all this stuff and know what happens overtime, clen is absolutely positively toxic as fuck and it is way worse than any other stimulant I've ever used in that sense. It's kind of interesting how the ones parroting the same old nonsense are the ones spinning their wheels getting next to no gain from the stuff they do, I feel bad for these people and attempt to help them but apparently it gets taken the wrong way? Not sure.
Anyone using clen thinking its safe totally deluded, not saying other stimulants are safe but clen is totally different, I hate seeing people take it for little benefit at all, I would go far as to see it's insane unless you make money off of your body.
And yes, in my own experience talking to others as well clen is far worse than adderall in terms of physical problems especially long term.
Last edited by fiddlesticks; 06-04-2019 at 09:43 AM.
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yes this is true and often times why guys run Benadryl with Clen . however its completely unnecessary imo. the idea of Clen tolerance and de-sensitization is completely over blown in my opinion.. wither its Benadryl or doing something like 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, etc.. in an attempt to keep 'sensitized' to clen, its really not necessary. Clen does not magically stop working after a couple weeks of being on it.
take your resting heart rate. lets say its 70bpm.. then get on 60mcg of clen per day and now lets say its 90bpm. well if after 4 weeks your resting bpm is still 90bpm then the clen is still obviously working
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