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06-04-2019, 01:56 PM #1
Leaving the lifestyle for good
This isn't for me anymore.
I'm leaving the board. Not out of any anger or issues with members, I just don't want to be here anymore, or have anything to do with this lifestyle. No drugs, no dieting, no lifting and no cardio.
Thanks for accepting me here in 2016.
Farewell to all and have a nice life.
Couch is officially DONE.
I'm still on wickr, if anyone needs insulin .
But other than that, I'm a ghost.
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06-04-2019, 02:17 PM #2
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That sucks to here brother...I wish you and your family the best in the future...I’ll miss your knowledge and humor my friend...
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06-04-2019, 02:24 PM #4
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06-04-2019, 02:58 PM #5BANNED
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well shit no one likes a quitter
completely understand though. its a selfish and time consuming sport and hobby. just living a healthy happy life with your family is always the better choice
curious if your staying on TRT, or if your going to try and restart natty hpta
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06-04-2019, 03:06 PM #6
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06-04-2019, 04:18 PM #7
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06-04-2019, 04:28 PM #8
I understand why you're making the decision, but hope you will drop in from time to time, Couch.
I think you have my Wickr. If not PM me. We can compare notes and shoot the sh!t in the firearms and reloading department.
Don't bail out on the cardio, your little lady is going to want her Dad to keep up with her!!There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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06-04-2019, 04:45 PM #9
Well damn, definitely won't be the same around here without you! Hope you'll at least decide to stick around here
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06-04-2019, 04:52 PM #10
I'll.br here lurking
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06-04-2019, 05:19 PM #11
You just need to follow Obs advice: up the tren !!! LOL
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06-04-2019, 05:29 PM #12Productive Member
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Good for you brother! You will be missed!
Best of luck to you and your family. Check in sometime and let us know how you're doing
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06-04-2019, 06:13 PM #13
I thoght trt was healthy and helped men live longer?
FOOD IS EVERYTHING
BEST PRE WOROUT JUICE
IS QWIM JUICE!!!!
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06-04-2019, 07:16 PM #14
Well when I wasn't on TRT.
I had perfect cholesterol levels, energy like a mother fucker, and that was at a test level of 384ng/dl
As I began messing with gear and TRT, nothing seemed to sync up. Energy was down (I was dialed in good too) cholesterol bad-ish. And constantly paranoid about being stuck without test.
Well I looked my best Natty.
I'm just not a good responder to gear.
I can put gram upon gram in me it makes no difference from 150mg test per week.
Yeah vi got strong on gear, but I'm just a poofy no abs angry motherfuker all the time.
Before gear, I had all 6 abs visible, with lower 8 peaking.
Veins everywhere, was still benching 2x my weight or more. Yeah I was only 135-140. But I'd rather be that weight at 10% or less bf. Than 160 benching 2x my weight with no visible abs or veins.
I started lifting to be healthy, now I'm constantly chasing stupid issues, AI dosing, blood work, cholesterol, shbg, etc.
I don't have the time for it.
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06-04-2019, 07:24 PM #15
You're a good man for putting your family first. This lifestyle is not for everyone. Much respect Couch!!!!!!
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06-04-2019, 07:26 PM #16
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06-04-2019, 07:32 PM #17
Good luck Couch. Much respect, be safe.
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06-04-2019, 08:14 PM #18
Wow man, that’s kinda shocking. You were one of main guys that helped me out here. I completely understand where you’re coming from. I don’t look that different on gear than from when I was at 470 ng/DL. I thought about taking a long break from cycling, but I’m afraid of getting off completely, especially doing it on my own.
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06-04-2019, 08:15 PM #19
You sonofabitch...
You are not and fuck that noise! I am gonna come backhand your lady!
This lifestyle is not left in the shape you are in without severe depression.
You just take a break.
Take a break for a while.
You need agression channeled into positive forward motion.
You aint leaving
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06-04-2019, 08:16 PM #20
I guess I'll stay for shits n giggles
Just I'm tired. That's all
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06-04-2019, 08:21 PM #21
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06-04-2019, 08:22 PM #22
I want to quit drugs too but I have kids to think about!
I hate smoking!
You think I do it for me!?
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06-04-2019, 08:24 PM #23
And what about your other family?
The one that doesnt bitch at you and take all your money?
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06-04-2019, 08:27 PM #24BANNED
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look into high RIR based training.. you can do 3 workouts a week and maintain a good physique with very little to no systemic fatigue or joint stress.
screw cardio, just get outside and take walks or hikes.
drugs - 100mg of test per week with 200mg of primo is virtually side effect free and keeps you anabolic and actually healthy and regenerative (anti aging clinics prescribe this combo).
meals - just decide to eat fairly clean, but then eat as often as you want or based on hunger only. don't force food down, don't restrict food. if its all clean you body will find a balance..
^ sustainable and if anything will add "quality" years to your life not limit your life.. remember its not how long you live, its how long you live a quality life.
anyhow, just maybe change your approach and not take too rash a decision right now
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06-04-2019, 08:29 PM #25
Yes what gear said.
Cant make good decisions if your mind is exhausted.
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06-04-2019, 08:51 PM #26
It doesnt have to be lifeshortening. Quiet opposite actually. Keeping a high testlevel prevents against oldman illnesses others will face. Weigths training will make u more robust and give u more energy to take care of your family.
And it dont have to be timeconsuming. One hour 3 times a week could be optimal. And that will give umore energy to be more effective when it comes to organizing qualtytime with family.
And staying fit and strong willmake it easier to love yourself and to love others uGOTTA love yourself.
The diett with this lifestyle will add many years to your lifestyle.
Dadboding with barbecueparties and burgers and pizza for dinner, will take more years from u than deca and clean Meat.
Just watch your BP man. And stay away from GH, slin and orals.
Two test cycles a year with deca added summertime and Possible sarms is ok.
Millons with dadbods die from lifestyle illnesses every year.
Noone with clean diett, good cardio, weigths and a little test/deca without preexisting issues dies directly from that lifestyle.
U can also put in a homegym. Then u can be with the family when u train. And just go to the gym 1-2 times a week. As i do.
I would rather cut off my fingers than going to the gym 4 times a week.
Homegym is the solution!
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06-04-2019, 08:54 PM #27
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06-04-2019, 09:36 PM #28
Lol you know how to drag a man kicking and screaming back to the wieghts
It's basically this, I ain't got the time to do this with gear
Without gear yeah, but blowing 10-12 weeks of a 16 week blast ain't nothing but money down the drain.
When I started this blast, I made awesome progress the first 3 weeks.
Then shit gets in the way.
I'll do it without gear, that way I ain't injecting for nothing.
Don't need primo to change diapers and fix popped chains on bikes.
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06-04-2019, 09:37 PM #29
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06-04-2019, 09:44 PM #30
You know, I never did good forcing a set numbers of calories n macros down.
When I first started this 1500-2000 cals clean did me good.
I fell into the eating to gain shit, and gained fat. I got strong, but looked less appealing.
I think I'm efficient at turning food into energy to where if I go over 2500 I get lots of spill over.
Remember, Natty I was 130-135 all lbm and bone
Now I try to eat to gain and I get fat
That's what's killing me mentally.
I see a fat fucking 260lb dickless creature slowly morphing out of my fucked up head in the mirror.
Like a damn gremlin with a fishing pole and honey bun as a bobber.
I just need to regroup. Regroup, rethink, and do what I knew worked for me
I got very caught up in the food. And once an overeater for 27 years of my life that habit starts coming back with a vengance
Like I had my stomach (not my skin, but the thing inside me) shrunk from steady 300-350 calorie meals 6vtines a day.
Now that I tend to gorge in cycke my stomach is stretched and it seems to take food to the point of bloating that I can't walk to reach that satity that I'm not hungry
I just need help.
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06-04-2019, 10:40 PM #31
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06-04-2019, 10:43 PM #33
The depression leaving the game coupled with life stress and shrinking is absolutely horrible.
7or 8 years I left and I never felt right in my skin.
Someone called me skinny and I literally felt it in my heart and wanted to hurt them.
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06-04-2019, 10:56 PM #34
I do see trt happening.
Not at the 938 level I was at.
I'd like to be at 750-800.
Let my ass get a break for at least 6 months.
Then maybe bump it up a bit .
But I gotta get right first in my heart and soul and brain.
You know better than anyone obs, I swallow shit n smile.
But this ain't about that, it's about me at the moment. I need to get on track.
Maybe I should see a therapist and freak him out with my mind's inner workings
"What do you see here"
Snoopy, gun, weed, and needle"
What about this one
"Shemale, snoopy, weed, and reloading press"
And this one?
"You, snoopy, weed, Gerber knife and lots of blood"
Interesting, lets schedule your next appointment , I dunno, 75 months from now"??
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06-04-2019, 10:59 PM #35
Obs you’ve seen his natty pics though. God damn talk about shredded to the bone!!
Couch can do this. Worst case he gets off and after pct he hates it. Well he can get right back on. This is a brave choice. Not one many here would be able to make.
I applaud you couch which ever way you go. Your looking out for yourself and your little girl.
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06-04-2019, 11:29 PM #36
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06-04-2019, 11:41 PM #37
If he doesnt have time to be with his friends then the cycle of doom is complete. A co dependant person isolates themself to hold on to shit that isnt there.
They will sell their soul to keep enabling their own abuse. I done it for years until it colapsed. I filed for divorce but I was not the one that left. The leaving was the end of who I had made myself and the awakening of who I am.
I applaud couch going after what he wants.
Does he want it or is it just the final stage of isolation before shit breaks loose?
I dont live for my gf, family, kids. I dont live anyones life for them. They can be here if they want to. If not they can get the fuck out because there is a lot of fucking people to love out there.
I been to hell because of this.
I been isolated until no one was left. No family no friend. Just me in a farmhouse in the middle of nowwhere.
I been over this story a few times.
Point is you cant change who you actually are.
You can adapt but you will always be the same SOB.
If your partner aint down with who you really are then you are fucked. Get a new one.Last edited by Obs; 06-04-2019 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Drunk fukd up
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06-04-2019, 11:44 PM #38
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06-04-2019, 11:48 PM #39
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06-04-2019, 11:51 PM #40
Thats what happens.
My ex wife pushed me to drive everyone out of my life. She is doing a good job causing fights between me and my gf too.
You dont realize it until you are entirely alone.
No family and no friends because thats how fucking hard you tried to keep it together.
They gotta be the most important ALL the time so everyone else or any distractions must go.
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