Lean bulk cycle opinions

**PTROIDE** · 06-07-2019, 01:45 PM

Hello,

Thoughts about this 6 or 7th cycle from a friend for a lean bulk cycle, he use some times EQ but dont like it to mutch this time testing NPP never used before.

STATS

1.80m
92kg
10% BF

For a lean bulk cycle what you think about it:

Cycle

1-8 Test P. 100mg EOD
1-8 NPP 100mg EOD
1-4 Dbol 20mg ED

1-8 Anastrozole (arimidex ) 0,25mg? EOD (a little sensitivity E2)
1-8 Cabergoline 0.5MG or 0.25MG? 2x week???
1-8 HCG 250UI 2x week

PCT

Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/20
Clomid 75/50/50/50

Diet

300Gr Protein
100Gr Fats
350Gr Carbs

only clean sources

Thanks

**PTROIDE** · 06-09-2019, 05:44 PM

What is your opinion?

**neloza** · 06-09-2019, 06:08 PM

You forgot to post the most important factor affecting whether his "lean" bulk will be successful. The nutritional plan. If you're eating like a pig you will bulk up but it won't be lean. Or if you are eating like an anorexic teenage girl you will lose weight.

The amount or types of AAS used won't compensate for a poor nutritional plan.

**PTROIDE** · 06-10-2019, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by neloza

You forgot to post the most important factor affecting whether his "lean" bulk will be successful. The nutritional plan. If you're eating like a pig you will bulk up but it won't be lean. Or if you are eating like an anorexic teenage girl you will lose weight.

The amount or types of AAS used won't compensate for a poor nutritional plan.

yes the diet is on point he will start with 250GR Protein/ 100GR Fats / 300GR Carbs, all clean sources and adjust when needed

**Windex** · 06-10-2019, 04:37 AM

Too much caber for so little NPP.

NPP should be injected every other day not 3x per week.

Test dose should be based off whatever mg to not have to use Arimidex .

The macro break down means nothing. I could get to those macros from chicken, rice and olive oil only. All clean sources but a garbage diet.

Your friend could also make an account - they are free to make.

**PTROIDE** · 06-10-2019, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

Too much caber for so little NPP.

NPP should be injected every other day not 3x per week.

Test dose should be based off whatever mg to not have to use Arimidex .

The macro break down means nothing. I could get to those macros from chicken, rice and olive oil only. All clean sources but a garbage diet.

Your friend could also make an account - they are free to make.

If move on to NPP EOD 100MG, its about 400MG NPP week you think dont the caber for this dosage? testosterone is advised to be slightly higher than the NPP dosage or below/same?

thanks

**Windex** · 06-10-2019, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by PTROIDE

If move on to NPP EOD 100MG, its about 400MG NPP week you think dont the caber for this dosage? testosterone is advised to be slightly higher than the NPP dosage or below/same?

thanks

EOD is 350mg.

Caber and AI should only be used as needed, retroactively not proactively.

The dosages of Test and NPP are based off the individual and how they respond. There's no one size fits all answer - otherwise every single person would be running the same gear for the same length at the same dosage.

What does this person eat in a day? complete meals and portions. Usually when someone asks a diet question and their answer is only macros it's a red flag they have a lot of room for improvement on nutrition.

**PTROIDE** · 06-10-2019, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

EOD is 350mg.

Caber and AI should only be used as needed, retroactively not proactively.

The dosages of Test and NPP are based off the individual and how they respond. There's no one size fits all answer - otherwise every single person would be running the same gear for the same length at the same dosage.

What does this person eat in a day? complete meals and portions. Usually when someone asks a diet question and their answer is only macros it's a red flag they have a lot of room for improvement on nutrition.

@Windex
The start diet is that,

Meal 1
2 Eggs
200Gr Egg whites
100Gr Oats
35Gr Whey 90%

Meal 2
200Gr Chicken breast
250Gr Rice
100Gr brocoli

Meal 3
200Gr Steak
250Gr rice
50Gr Almonds/nuts

Meal 4 (post workout)
35Gr Whey 90%
60Gr maltodextrin
1 medium Banana

Meal 5
200Gr White fish
300Gr White potatos
2 tblsp Olive oil

Adjustable when needed...
What is the standard or start point of test and npp racio ? (switch from Test E, to Test P EOD, now is find the best start point...)

**GearHeaded** · 06-11-2019, 07:35 AM

your only running 350mg a week of NPP and only for 8 weeks .. its highly unlikely your going to have prolactin issues or need Caber

**Family_guy** · 06-12-2019, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by PTROIDE

@Windex
The start diet is that,

Meal 1
2 Eggs
200Gr Egg whites
100Gr Oats
35Gr Whey 90%

Meal 2
200Gr Chicken breast
250Gr Rice
100Gr brocoli

Meal 3
200Gr Steak
250Gr rice
50Gr Almonds/nuts

Meal 4 (post workout)
35Gr Whey 90%
60Gr maltodextrin
1 medium Banana

Meal 5
200Gr White fish
300Gr White potatos
2 tblsp Olive oil

Adjustable when needed...
What is the standard or start point of test and npp racio ? (switch from Test E, to Test P EOD, now is find the best start point...)

I don’t think there’s a consensus on test to deca ratio cuz like windex said there’s no one size fits all approach. I’ve read a good starting point is twice as much deca as test. So 175 test for 350 deca. But everyone is so different. Some guys keep the test really low and the deca high. I’m sure some do 1 to 1 ratio.